fixing AED front

[tido_29]

pic one
this is on both sides i think

[tido_29]

the holes he did to put on his license plate..

how do cover those up?

[tido_29]

the real major problem... :(

[tido_29]

closer shot

[martopg]

Well... I don't think it's gonna be easy... The holes and sutff will have to be filled in with bondo or you can probably take it to some shop and have it refiberglassed. After that you're gonna have to repaint the whole thing, but this shouldn't be so bad since you need to paint it anyhow...

[tido_29]

inside :(

[martopg]

Ooooooohhh.... I didn't see that MAJOR problem. That's definately gonna take more than bondo... But like I said, check some shops that do body work, and someone should be able to refiberglass it for ya...

[tido_29]

the passanger side

[99GrandAMSE]

Did I miss something ... where did you get that?? Looks to be awfully ... ahhhhh, how can I say this so you don't het upset with me ... 'MESSED UP' :(

[tido_29]

**** info****

as many know. ... i messed up my front in the accident. so I have been in search for a new front.

I friend here in houston is selling this one to me.. it looks worse than what it is.. i think i will bondo most of it.. and maybe refiberglass some parts.

he wants 250 for it.

[Stephen's GA]

Hey ill tell you what buy it and ill fix it unless you wanna fiberglass it yourself. Your gonna need fiberglass patches on the back side of the crack and id use bondo glass on the top side to fill the cracks and holes. If you want me to fix it ill tell what you need to get and I can meet you in victoria so you can drop it off and pick it up later. And you can just make a gas donation LOL just let me know.

[JoeyK]

The only way to make a decent permanent repair to that is to grind out all the softened fiberglass & reglass from both front & back. Don't rely on just plastic filler or fiberglass reinforced plastic filler on either side. Plastic filler however can be used to fill & smoothe minor inperfections after doing the coerrect fiberglass work.

[VanishingImage]

fiberglassing should help to fix that,but i wouldn't think it would be as strong as it was before it was messed up.

[JoeyK]

I could repair that glass to where if it were hit again it wouldn't give in my repair area. Not hard to do actually. I've had some heavy trucks come back to me that I had repaired & were in another accident & my glass didn't give.

[VanishingImage]

well yea id guess just goes to show its the expierence that someone has that knows exactly how to go about fixing something like that to its original strength

[Stephen's GA]

It does not need to be glassed on both sides that were people mess up if your not able to make it strong from one side your not doing something right. Ill take your advise on painting, but i worked at a fiberglass plant for about 3 yrs when i was younger and the PRO's said if your not able to stiffin it up on one side only then your doing it wrong. The whole glassing on both sides is only if you are covering a large area and i mean LARGE area of torn glass but these little areas he has can be fixed with a patch on one side and bondo glass on the other. I just finished doing a hood that was all messed up using this technique and i qurantee it 100 times stronger than it was when it came from the factory.

[JoeyK]

PLastic filler or fiberglass reinforced plastic filler is for light imperfections. Not to fill large, deep areas. (not to really be used over an 8th of an inch deep) I worked in a glass & plastic factory too. (11 years on the night shift/ painted cars & all sorts of stuff during the day) They had us do stuff like that too in the interest of saveing time. Sometimes shortcuts aren't the way to go. Ya, it may hold but it also may not, that's the chance you take when useing materials for purposes other than what thier intended.
So what I'm saying is, if it works for you, great but that's not what they'll teach you in tech school & the material manufacturer wouldn't recommend it either. My comments have nothing to do with makeing it stronger, it has to do w/ the repair not cracking out.

[Stephen's GA]

I dont doubt you know your stuff but this all goes back to a previous comment i made we arent all pro's the way i explain things to people is to were they can do it them self and it WILL hold up with know probs. The place i worked out which i was classified as an experienced glass tech made tanks for sea world and we made the largest fiberglass tanks for oil companys all over the world and we had to do things perfect. Now if you grind or cut along the tears in the glass,put a fiberglass patch on the inside and then fill it with bondoglass itll hold with no problems now a technique i use with the bondo glass is mixing in a little more resin, catylist + the hardening cream this is almost like putting a glass patch on the outside but it sands alot easier and gives you a glass like finish when your done. So instead of having to apply glass inside and outside and then sanding the outside down applying nexes sanding it down and so on your knocking it all out at once with the filler on top, fiber on the inside.

You should try it yourself one day you may be surprised with the strength it has and how fast you can do it.

Oh and no flame intended just two different points of view in the work.

[JoeyK]

Are you talking about adding in fiberglass resin into your "bondo glass"? By the way, that's cool I plan on makeing my own fiberglass back tank built into my house when I move next year. One of my hobbies is marine aquariums.

[Stephen's GA]

Yeah you add a little extra resin into the bondoglass along with catylist and the hardening cream it works awesome. And yeah i hear ya on the aquarium my g/f wants one that seperates two rooms i tell ya sure one day,lol but its an awesome idea i have some plans on cad for an awesome tank but its some serious time and money to build it. Ive strayed away from that line of work but every day that i have to sit in an office i wish i was out creating stuff instead of selling it.

[tido_29]

well i would like to fix it myself..(would be cool so say i did it) but i have some questions :(


okay i bought some fiberglass kit. it has
a large sheet of fiberglass
a large bottle of resin
a small tube of harner
and a cup of power (bondo)



i also bought a canaster of that fiberglass bondo... but it said i needed to add a hardner (in the directions).. what kind and what do i ask for when i go back to the dupont place? :(
do i just need just the hardner or is is there something else?

you said add resin, catylist (what is that), and hardening cream... to the bondoglass :???:
Originally posted by Stephen's GA
a technique i use with the bondo glass is mixing in a little more resin, catylist + the hardening cream this is almost like putting a glass patch on the outside but it sands alot easier and gives you a glass like finish when your done. :???:

[Stephen's GA]

The bondo glass uses regular hardener the same stuff bondo uses its a cream, and adding the other crap is just a technique i use its kinda hard to mix the right amount in so i wouldnt do it the way youll do it will be just as strong but anyways it sounds like your ready rebuild:D

[tido_29]

so you think i should bondo the edges and holes?

the large crack.. you suggest that i fiberglass the back and bondo the front?

[redfox]

man fausto didn't know you where buying that piece of shit for 250. I sold mine for 300 and it was in great shape. I'm suer len and suzanna will give you a break on a new one. you will more that likely have problems out of the front. that thing looks like hell. cost you anoother 100-150 bucks plus you time to fix.

[tido_29]

yeah it is pretty bad.. but its all i can do right now.. I dont think len and susan would give me a discount.. more like a lay away plan.. the edges i am worried about cuz well... bondo will make them smooth but if i hit a rock, i am sure it will chip easily. :(

[redfox]

if i was you i would shoot Len an e-mail and just ask, because i'm telling you, by looking at the front and the damage, you are gonna spend more in the long run, that thing is gonna need a lot of bondo, it may even crack when you put it on, even if you have to layway that is better that having to fixin something over and over. take the 250 send it to Len and Suzzana and work out a deal you will be way happier then worring about cracks and stuff, plus less prep for the painter to do, because if you don't do a perfect job( filling in the pin hole) your paint is gonna look like shit. Just trying to look out for ya. don't buy someone elses problems, and don't pay 250 for the front, offer him 100 bucks take it or leave it, because he will never find someone to buy it for 250.

[tido_29]

well its kinda late since i started to work on it. :(

but what i am might do is just fix it and then sell it or maybe just put it on.

i just was desperate.... the car looks funny w/ the GT front and AED kit :(

well wish me luck

[redfox]

well good luck man, hope everything works out

[tido_29]

well i am pretty much done w/ the fixing.. all that is left if just sanding it down to prime.. :) i will post pics later

[redfox]

Any pic yet Fausto... Want to check your work...lol Hope it went well.

[tido_29]

yup, i have some pics but they are on my home computer. It turned out great :) used some fiberglass bondo but it was cool. Took me a good week to do everything (a bit at a time each day).

its ready for prime and paint :) just need to find a good place to get it done.

I will post pics of it before priming, after primeing and painted, :)

[redfox]

good deal

[Stephen's GA]

Now doesnt it feel good you did it yourself cant wait to see it.

[tido_29]

i want to paint it myself.. i have a friend who has an uncle that would let me use all the things needed to paint

all i need is the paint (which i can get at dupont) and the primer

but i dont know how to do it :(
anyone know how to do this.

what primer to use (like brand or style)
thne what to do once primed.
how long to wait before paint
how many coats
where do i buy the clear coat (what kind)


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[redfox]

Damn FAusto you goin all out. Good job. And by the way where are those pics...lol.

[JoeyK]

Trust me, if you've never painted before don't start w/ that fascia. W/ all those complex angles you'll have a real dandy time makeing it look presentable. No offence. But It's your car if you screw it up. Let me know what brand of paint your going w/ for sure & I can help you w/ the mixture & technique tips. But that's just a part of the puzzle/ a good paintjob comes w/ the skill from practice. If your friends uncle has the guns & booth, etc. I think I'd just slip him a few or work something out & have him do it if I were you. Assumeing he knows what he's doing. I immagine he does if he owns the equipment.

[tido_29]

well getting the front painted tomorrow so i am happy.

this is what i looks like before it was sent to the shop . :)

[tido_29]

here is another one :)

[tido_29]

last one.

now lets just hope that the guy can painted it by tomorrow so i can install it

[JoeyK]

Please don't tell me you put the reinforced filler OVER paint? Looks as if you did:(

[tido_29]

i sanded most places down pretty much.

those parts you see where sanded down and all the paint was removed from the places that where filled.

that is just the edges of the places filled :)