View Full Version : For Anyone with Window Regulator problems.......
Black99GT3
10-05-2003, 01:31 PM
I just e-mailed General Motors/Pontiac and put in a recall complaint for any chance that it will be recalled one day. If anyone else has had a problem with the Regulator in their window busting, i urge you to go to www.generalmotors.com and putting in a complaint. This has happened in both of my windows with a grand total of $800 counting labor and tax..all that just for a window. Guy who fixes my car said even though he fixed both, that it could easily happen again because it's a faulty part and poorly constructed by pontiac/GM..so give 'em hell if you've had this problem too..no reason why we should have to pay for someones mistake
Riley1123d
10-05-2003, 02:11 PM
oooooo that would be a good idea! I had to have a regulator replaced, it was like $500!! AND the window still acts strange sometimes.
Black99GT3
10-05-2003, 02:17 PM
yeah i'm not sure how a part recall is processed, but i'm guessing if enough people complain or if someone tries to sue pontiac/gm for the money they had to throw away for the parts...everyone go and e-mail and complain if you've had this problem! don't get hosed
Pte Socks
10-05-2003, 03:35 PM
what window regulator part are you talking about? the piece that scratches yoru window?
Black99GT3
10-05-2003, 03:54 PM
no, i'm pretty sure it's the whole regulator that goes bad. what happens is you hear a snap, then something falls in your door, then you can't put your window up or down and you're basically screwed if the window is down. i'm not sure what exactly the regulator does, but i'm guessing it's like a motor that takes the window track up and down. it's happened in both of my windows within a couple months of each other. mechanic said that passenger side had already been replaced before so this is the second time the passenger side regulator was replaced and first for the drivers side
Themeneea
10-05-2003, 04:22 PM
i have not had the problem yet, but i lube my windows every few months
MikeNice
10-05-2003, 05:49 PM
Recalls are usually for a safety issue. Other than that, it's not high on their priority list.
Black99GT3
10-05-2003, 08:05 PM
damn..well the window could come off track and fall on me?? no?? ;)
scott9050
10-05-2003, 08:22 PM
The regulator looks like a scissor jack and operates in about the same way to raise and lower the window. Mine is gone in my 93 Skylark, I am going to look for one in the local pick-your-part.
Black99GT3
10-05-2003, 09:43 PM
now that i think about it, recalls aren't only for safety reasons because my brother's windshield wiper motor in his chevy silverado went bad twice and that ended up getting recalled, so hopefully anyone with regulator problems with be reimbursed..
Themeneea
10-06-2003, 12:23 AM
now that i think about it, recalls aren't only for safety reasons because my brother's windshield wiper motor in his chevy silverado went bad twice and that ended up getting recalled, so hopefully anyone with regulator problems with be reimbursed..
thats a safety issue
Black99GT3
10-06-2003, 11:36 AM
yeah i'm not sure if it's the same thing..with my drivers side window i heard a snap then something fell inside the door, then it was fine for a couple weeks, then eventually the window didn't go up or down anymore..i'd think that it's the same concept with power and manual windows, but i don't know
K it doesnt matter if its power or crank windows, I had this problem with my crank windows on my 96 as well, gm is aware of thsi part being cheap and still uses it today they have used the same part in many vehicles from 92 and up, sorry guys but i doutb a recall will be done on it, the regulator is the part that actually moves the window up and down regardless if its power or not, sorry guys, im hoping it dont happen to me anymore, but i am sure it prolly will.
SC/TGrandAm
10-06-2003, 02:19 PM
Ive replaced the piece you all are talking about 3 freaking times now and now my drivers and side windows are doing it again. Im getting them fixed Wednesday.
This makes it 5 times and ive had my car for a year and a half. UGH :2up:
It cost me about 400 bucks canadian when it happened
Black99GT3
10-06-2003, 08:05 PM
seriously though guys go to gm.com and write them an e-mail..what's it gonna hurt..and if you know anyone else with this problem tell them to do the same
PFloyd2002
10-09-2003, 07:47 AM
Before anyone goes and drops $500 on a window regulator:eek:, CHECK EBAY!!!:agree: If you can do it yourself, it should be less than $100;). They have window regs for my car for like $70 new. Look into it.
Black99GT3
10-09-2003, 01:00 PM
good calls..thanks for the advice!
illsmokeyou
10-10-2003, 12:05 AM
I had my rear passenger side replaced last month, and my 2 front regulators this month :roll2:
On top of that, my battery died overnight while the car was in service, so I waited an Xtra 15 minutes to get a new one.
Today my stock CD player stopped working, and this dealership was nice enough to simply hand over a new one to me :???:
I guess im getting better service now, but does it really matter? If I said it once, ill say it again this thing is a PIECE OF SHIZZ ;)
redemption comes monday
not that it will help any, but I emailed GM also. The best thing to do would be to warn family/friends in the future, or simply lease
Black99GT3
10-10-2003, 12:29 AM
if i had to do it over again, i would've never gotten a grand am..looks greats, costs a lot of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Themeneea
10-10-2003, 11:26 AM
if i had to do it over again, i would've never gotten a grand am..looks greats, costs a lot of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what would you of got?
illsmokeyou
10-10-2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Themeneea
what would you of got?
an import ;)
even ford and DC are showing more incentives these days :O
illsmokeyou
10-10-2003, 12:58 PM
just to show you the kinda responses GM makes:
this was my initial contact,
Comments : I would really like to see that GM
>has extensive recalls on their grand
>ams for infamous products such as
>leaking lower intake manifold gasket
>problems, warping rotors, bad
>window regulators, and
>intermittent "no start up" problems
>with the particular 3400 series
>engine. I personally have a 2001
>grand am SE, and a 2003 grand am
>GT, and 5 other GM vehicles in our
>family, and if we feel we dont get
>these concerns met, i guarantee i
>will never buy another gm product,
>as well as I will urge my family, and
>the ENTIRE gm community to do the
>same
>
>thank you, your assistance is crucial
And as expected, this was their reply:
Allan Galvan
>From: cac@pontiac.com
>Reply-To: cac@pontiac.com
>To: dictator02@hotmail.com
>Subject: RE: Pontiac Grand Am Owner Assistance
>Date: 10 Oct 2003 13:36:39 -0400
>
>Dear Mr. Galvan,
>
>Thank you for contacting the Pontiac Customer Assistance Center. We appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to your inquiry about recalls that need to be released pertaining to your Pontiac Grand Am.
>
>Recalls are released when the vehicle or an item in the vehicle's equipment does not comply with a Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard or when there is a safety-related defect present in the vehicle or equipment. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards set minimum performance levels for those parts of the vehicle which most effect its safe operation, brakes, tires, lighting, or which protect drivers and passengers from death or serious injury in the event of a crash. This is applicable to all vehicles and equipment manufactured for sale in the United States that are certified for use on public roads and highways. Through tests, inspection procedures and information gathering systems, General Motors, as a manufacturer, may discover that a safety defect exists or that the requirements of a safety standard have not been met. At that time, a voluntary recall will be released.
>
>If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message or call our Pontiac Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-762-2737. Customer Relationship Managers are available Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time. Please reference request number 1-149924628
>
>Again, thank you for contacting Pontiac.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Paul Engram
>Customer Relationship Manager
>Pontiac Customer Assistance Center
this was my last reply, sent out 10 min ago:
so basically because these items technically "dont have to" be replaced by GM, theres nothing embarrasing that GM finds in its products?
Amazing. I have been loyally commited GM since day one, but if there is "no solution" found in your faulty products, its time to move on to Honda, Ford, or even Dodge with that fabulous 7/70 powertrain warranty. Im sure my family friends respect me enough to do the same.
thank you for your time, it has been rather, Interesting.
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sure, business is business, but im on the consumers recieving end, therefore, i dont give a crap about anything else besides the quality of product I am getting, and so should you, unless of course you like wasting money ;)
I hope many of you see that these pointless emails, and inquiries are nothing short of a waste of time. GM knows they have some pieces of shit out there, but in an nutshell, because they dont " have to", they wont :mad:
I still fail to see how something as crucial to an automobiles as brakes is NOT a safety issue :???: .... sure pads are clearly outlined in everyones warranty as a maintanence item, but who the hell ever heard of replacing/resurfacing rotors under 12K :???: , which 90% of members here complain about.
to me GM is no longer the symbol of "excellence", rather "embarrassment". The honda guys down my father in laws block are asking me why im always making repairs :roll2:
Black99GT3
10-10-2003, 03:18 PM
to answer my previous question, i would have definitly gotten an import that wasn't as sporty..i'm in college and can only work over the summer and these repairs are starting to piss me off..there's always something "little" wrong with my car, but those little things are amazingly expensive. $400 for a tiny window motor that probably costs $20 to make?! it's a joke..my next car will not be a GM car most likely..my GA GT runs awesome and looks great, but you know what i shouldn't have to fear everytime i drive my car that somethin is going to go wrong..and there's only 43,000 miles on it and i need this car to last me..to the guy who e-mailed GM and got that "general" e-mail back, i feel you because the same thing happened to me..they beat around the bush and don't answer your question..i seriously don't even think they type that..i bet that e-mail is saved and just use it for every customer..BS is all it is..ok now that i'm pissed off i'm leaving........
burton420
10-12-2003, 02:57 AM
I just got my car back friday from the same thing. Only my widow broke when it fell. My body shop pulled strings with a dealership to get it fixed under warranty (even tho it expired 300 miles ago) They said with the window and regulator, it would've been 7-800 bucks. They even re tinted the window free of charge
It also happened twice in my 96 GT
scott9050
10-13-2003, 10:48 PM
Seems to me if you crash your car into a lake and you can't open the door due to water pressure, the window regulator not working becomes a safety issue.
vdgmcool
10-14-2003, 09:13 PM
Yeah I just had to have my regulator fixed a couple weeks ago and it sucked but I was only charged $130.
Black99GT3
10-14-2003, 09:54 PM
how was that? did you have connections or something
vdgmcool
10-15-2003, 08:19 AM
I live in a small town so I took my car to the local body shop and thats what they charged me.
Black99GT3
10-15-2003, 11:06 AM
yeah so do i, but WOW you got a deal. The new regulator alone costs like $250, plus tax and labor it comes out to be about $360..but we've been going to the same mechanic forever and he told me he put in a stronger regulator to see if that would last longer, but he even said he thinks it will happen again eventhough he fixed it
SonicTron
10-15-2003, 03:32 PM
my ****ing window regular broke a couple days ago, now every time i open the door and close it the ****ing thing i swear to god its rolling around in my door and shutting it makes the most god awful "haha youre car is falling apart" noise :mad:
its under warranty still though, but gee when my warranty runs up in less than a year I'll be paying through my ass for these repairs. as much as I like the car, it IS a total piece when it comes to failing parts.
vdgmcool
10-15-2003, 05:05 PM
Has GM used the same regulator on every GA no matter what year the car is?
Black99GT3
10-15-2003, 07:01 PM
most likely, it's GM
scott9050
10-15-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Black99GT3
yeah so do i, but WOW you got a deal. The new regulator alone costs like $250, plus tax and labor it comes out to be about $360..but we've been going to the same mechanic forever and he told me he put in a stronger regulator to see if that would last longer, but he even said he thinks it will happen again eventhough he fixed it
I've seen them new on Ebay for $69.
Riley1123d
10-15-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Black99GT3
yeah so do i, but WOW you got a deal. The new regulator alone costs like $250, plus tax and labor it comes out to be about $360..but we've been going to the same mechanic forever and he told me he put in a stronger regulator to see if that would last longer, but he even said he thinks it will happen again eventhough he fixed it
I had to have one of mine replaced last winter. The total came out around $500!! I guess that place really ripped me off, huh?:mad:
Black99GT3
10-15-2003, 10:47 PM
that's a little higher than what i got it for, but my mechanic might have cut me some slack because my family has gone there for years..but $500 could very well be the right price..
dirtysmurf
10-23-2003, 08:03 PM
if I go into my door (like I am changing a speaker) can I just push it up so it stays up? can I do that? will it work? would it fall back down?
well I live in north carolina where it rains a lot and my window is over 3/4 the way down.
Black99GT3
10-23-2003, 09:14 PM
no i don't think you can get to the window by doing that..because i've changed my door speaker before and saw no sign of a window
dirtysmurf
10-25-2003, 03:40 PM
I opened it up today and after the thing broke the plug came undone
so I pluged it back up then I pressed the window button up and the motor moved but it dosent move the window. I had a friend help to pull the window up while I pressed the button and tryed to push the window up from within the door and now it is all the way up but If I go down a bumpy road or anything like that, it giggles and slides down a little.
so now everytime I get out of my car I have to hold the window with bothe hands and pull it up and it will stay up untill I bump it, but the good thing is that If I ever lock my self out of my car then I can just giggle my window so I can always get back in........
....wait a second why am I telling you this? now you can getinto my car, oh well, atleast it is insured.
Flandez
10-25-2003, 05:50 PM
this happened to me just today...the window goes down but when i goto put it up, it goes up 1 inch, then I have to wait 30 secs and it will go up 1inch...and so on and so on until its closed
Black99GT3
10-25-2003, 05:56 PM
it's a *****, ain't it?! get used to it..it has happened to both of my windows and my mechanic says it will most likely happen again because it's a faulty part..go on ebay and save yourself some money..buy the motor then have a mechanic put it in for you..if you let the mechanic do everything, it will be probably $350 for one window
02GARacer
10-27-2003, 05:40 PM
i have that prob im putting my request in
nymphfoe
10-28-2003, 12:14 AM
I have a 93 2dr and driver's side window is doing some what the same thing. I can let it down with no problem but I can't let it up for SCHIT. I tried opening up the door to push it up manual(even though they're automatic, I thought I could disconnect the power and just raise it up..ut no dice). I'm wondering does this sound like a problem, that can be fixed by the same procedure, you other guys were going through. Oh I can let the window up real slow, about every 15-30 minutes I can let the window up around 5 millimeters and that's IT, I've been rolling my window up 12+hours already and I still can't take it outta the garage cuz you can stick you hand right in my car and steal it with no problem. ANyway let me kow if my window fits in the same categoriy as needing one of those $4-500 shop visits...Thanx
Black99GT3
10-28-2003, 07:42 AM
yep that sounds like the good old window regulator busted! well it might not have busted yet, but eventually you will hear a snap, then something fall inside your door..that's your motor of the regulator :D go on Ebay and buy a new regulator then take it to your mechanic..save yourself some money
nymphfoe
10-29-2003, 12:01 AM
Is that repair something that can be done by maybe an "alley-mechanic" cuz he said yo ujust have to drill those four screws out and then it's simple from there...Now I don't know the validity of that statement but looking at my door( I took the door off to disconnect the motor once it's let up) it looks possible but what do I know...anyway that's my question...Thanx for the response
Black99GT3
10-29-2003, 07:12 AM
i don't know jack about fixing cars..i can change my oil, that's about it :D but from what you describe, you might as well go for it! not much to lose
Flandez
11-01-2003, 10:22 AM
My car is going in next friday to get this fixed...but I just noticed this whole thing has left a nice big scratch on the window too, paid $3500 for the car and now its showing its true colors :2up:
Vince
11-02-2003, 02:10 AM
I had the same problem on my car too, passenger side. Started with the window not going up, next the window motor froze, then the window just fell down, luckily it didn't break. I took the whole thing apart, the motor was froze, but after messing with it, I got it to work again. But that was not the problem, it was a stupid little plastic piece that holds a bracket that held the window, it broke. It goes on the rail that lifts and lowers the window. I went to junkyards and dealers, no one sells those little pieces, you have to buy the whole rig, mainly cause it's all one piece. The dealer price to the public is about 250 US. The actuall price the dealer payes for it is 147 or 149. I know this cause I managed to buy the setup for 160, the guy told me they were only making like ten bucks on it, but he let me have it anyway. I put it on myself, it's not really that hard to do. The thing is, if you have it done at the dealer, they'll charge you the 250 for the part plus labor, that's why I did it myself.
Black99GT3
11-02-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Vince
it was a stupid little plastic piece that holds a bracket that held the window, it broke. It goes on the rail that lifts and lowers the window. I went to junkyards and dealers, no one sells those little pieces, you have to buy the whole rig, mainly cause it's all one piece
Yeah when both of my windows broke, i heard that little plastic piece fall down one time when i was putting up my window. on my passenger side, i actually was making turns and heard something clank inside my door. i took it apart and found this plastic piece connected to a piece of metal and my mechanic said it was my window regulator and you can't just buy that piece, you have to get the whole thing. It's really some B.S. i mean, if GM is going to make faulty, cheap parts, why not atleast make it where you can just buy the one little piece you need instead of buying a whole new window motor. i started this topic on the forum a while ago and i'm glad to see such a big response. i hope one day we all are reembursed (sp?) for this, but i know it will never happen. i would just like to put my windows up and down without a fear of losing $350 :mad:
good day everyone!
GA1999
11-04-2003, 12:04 AM
GM now has a TSB out on these regulators. Basically what it says is that the whole regulator does not have to be replaced. The plastic clips that break on the regulator can be ordered and replaced. I guess GM finally got the hint after getting all those bad regulators sent back to them at their failure analysis center, where every part replaced under a warranty goes.
Vince
11-04-2003, 12:50 AM
That must have been recent, cause when I asked for that little piece at the dealer at the beginning of this year, they said they didn't sell it by itself, only the whole thing. Now I know though, I still have the driver side window which hasn't gone out yet.
BadGT471
11-06-2003, 07:45 AM
I got the extended warranty :) Granted I am still under factory warranty, but at least I know I am covered till like 75K miles or something like that after I run out of the factory warranty. $hit, a $50 deductible or whatever mine is surely is MUCH better then like $800 out of my pocket :) I really hate GM's laziness and poor design. This will be my LAST GM car, and I can guarantee you that it will go bye bye before I hit 75k :)
Senators
11-24-2003, 06:25 PM
I just took my car to the dealer because I heard a snapping sound in my door and then my power windows were not working and now I have to get my regulator replaced.
Black99GT3
11-24-2003, 11:34 PM
do you have extended warranty on your car or anything like that? check e-bay for the window regulator motor and i think you will save yourself some money
Vince
11-25-2003, 01:07 AM
I doubt it's even the motor, It's probably that stupid little plastic piece in the rail that broke, causing the window to tilt, and locking up the motor itself. But even so, they have to replace the whole thing. Yours is 2002 right, so you still under warranty right, cause if your not, they're gonna charge 250 + for the part and then labor. Which really sucks since that part only cost them 148 US dollars. Talk about a rip off there.
Black99GT3
11-25-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Vince
I doubt it's even the motor, It's probably that stupid little plastic piece in the rail that broke, causing the window to tilt, and locking up the motor itself. But even so, they have to replace the whole thing. Yours is 2002 right, so you still under warranty right, cause if your not, they're gonna charge 250 + for the part and then labor. Which really sucks since that part only cost them 148 US dollars. Talk about a rip off there.
When that little plastic piece comes off, they have to replace the whole window regulator motor..that's why it costs so much..if GM was good to their customers, they would sell that one part separate, but GM is a bunch of little *****es, so they don't :D
yonkman
11-25-2003, 12:08 PM
Thers a window regulator for the grand am's on ebay for $65
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33706&item=2444006963
Black99GT3
11-25-2003, 01:28 PM
that window regulator is only for grand am's 92-98......
Senators
11-25-2003, 05:11 PM
My car is still under warranty so I don't have to fork out the bucks. However the dealer ordered the wrong regulator for my car. They ordered one for a 4-door not a 2-door. Now I have been without my car for three days. At least the dealer supplied me with a loaner.
GA1999
11-28-2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Black99GT3
When that little plastic piece comes off, they have to replace the whole window regulator motor..that's why it costs so much..if GM was good to their customers, they would sell that one part separate, but GM is a bunch of little *****es, so they don't :D
For those of you with problems with window regularors, the clips that break and cause the window to not go up/down is now available seperatly!!
Part # 22697622 - Clip, Frt S/D Wdo Reg (LH Front/RH Rear) - LH
Part # 22697623 - Clip, Frt S/D Wdo Reg (LH Rear, RH Front) - RH
Black99GT3
11-28-2003, 10:56 AM
GA1999, how long has the separate piece been available??
GA1999
11-28-2003, 08:03 PM
As far as I can tell, it is very recent due to a TSB GM released on this issue. Please refer to Shawn's post in the problems section:
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=17167
Flandez
11-29-2003, 07:08 PM
I had mine fixed last Monday for the driver side.... $495 ...wow
Pretty ridiculous if you ask me, whats worse is I have a friend who works where I sent it, they said it was a 3 hour job on the phone and he told me it took them 30 mins at most. So I go and pick it up, as the cashier sucked my soul in through the straw in his evil grin my friend pulls my car up. I get in, test the driver window, and hey it works...so for the hell of it I put down the passenger side...well its happening on that side too now. Safe to say I'm not getting that one fixed. *sigh*
PGsGT
11-29-2003, 07:47 PM
I had my drivers side fixed over the summer. Are you guys all bringing your car to the dealership for this kind of work?
I bought my motor off eBay ($70) and had it installed with 1 hour labor ($40). Total : $110. You guys have to stop bringing your chit to the dealer, they charge you outrageous price for GM factory replacement parts, and then they are usually $60 or more an hour labor.
The aftermarket motor that I bought, works better than the stock, and is much faster. I am very happy with it.
GA1999
11-29-2003, 09:47 PM
Ahhhhhhh......so glad I do not have power windows!!!
Black99GT3
11-29-2003, 10:04 PM
yeah i've had both replaced and i don't take anything to a dealership, but i do take it to a local mechanic that my family has gone to for about 10 years and does awesome work..he charged me about $350 for one window and on the bill, he barely charged anything for labor, but hey they gotta make their money too..i didn't find out about the E-bay motors until after both of mine were fixed..my mechanic said he put in a stronger window motor than the stock one GM supplies, but he said with the fault craftmanship of the window, there is a chance it could happen again..but atleast now, as GA1999 says, they sell that one piece separate..so now if it happens again all we will have to replace is that little piece that you hear go *klunk* inside your door!
Black99GT3
11-29-2003, 10:07 PM
Flandez....you can purchase that separate piece now if that's what the problem is...if you can't get that, look on EBAY for a cheap motor..good luck buddyi feel ya...i had my driver's side replaced, then like a week later some guy smashes up my car by cutting me off and my mechanic said we could have written that window regulator off on insurance! :mad: :mad:
jayhawk
11-30-2003, 10:58 AM
I have crank windows, roll the drivers side down alot because I smoke in the car, no problems yet.
WhiteGrandAmGT
12-02-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by GA1999
For those of you with problems with window regularors, the clips that break and cause the window to not go up/down is now available seperatly!!
Part # 22697622 - Clip, Frt S/D Wdo Reg (LH Front/RH Rear) - LH
Part # 22697623 - Clip, Frt S/D Wdo Reg (LH Rear, RH Front) - RH
does anyone have a pic of these clips...im not sure if the right clip that im thinking about, but if it is ill save like $250, the clip im thinking about is an L shape and has both metal and plastic, the guy at the dealer told me i couldnt buy the clip seperate and that it only came with the window regulator...HMMM...thanks AndreW
Black99GT3
12-02-2003, 02:51 PM
if this is recent, the people at the dealer's might not know that this clip is available..WhiteGrandAmGT, i see you live in medina, where do you go to school? i'm from copley and go to Kent St. so we're pretty close..let me know also where you're taking your car, maybe i can give you a suggestion to take it!
scott9050
12-05-2003, 10:24 PM
Damn. Regulators, power or manual, are $14.95 at the local pick-your-part here.
ga11sport
01-04-2004, 10:29 PM
Alright I've tried to follow this post but it's kinda hard at 4 pages. When the plastic clip snaps or whatever it is that breaks easily in GM cars, is that on the regulator? Does it make the window tip a little and that is why the windows don't move because they jam?
I might have all 4 replaced soon because 3 don't work but I really need my driver's door fixed now. I took out the glass to put on my new door, and I put it all back together, bought a new motor (old one didn't work even with the regulator not attached) and I was going to put the glass back in but I moved the regulator up to far with my power windows and went to roll it back down but it won't move. So it worked for 2 seconds and bam doesn't anymore, any ideas what it could be? Thanks for any help you can give me.
Black99GT3
01-04-2004, 11:39 PM
well i didn't try to mess with mine myself, so i just had the guy i take my car to do it and he put in an aftermarket regulator, not a cheap GM replacement so that the regulator might last a little longer..that little piece that falls of is from what i have heard, makes or breaks how the window works, so you might just have to buy all new regulators, which can be costly, but it's the risk you gotta take with a GA...i don't know much about cars, but this is a huge thing with GA's
tikiboy
01-05-2004, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by WhiteGrandAmGT
does anyone have a pic of these clips...im not sure if the right clip that im thinking about, but if it is ill save like $250, the clip im thinking about is an L shape and has both metal and plastic, the guy at the dealer told me i couldnt buy the clip seperate and that it only came with the window regulator...HMMM...thanks AndreW
Exactly my problem right now. I contacted 3 different GM dealers and all 3 said I would have to buy the complete regulator assembly not just the plastic clip that is broken.
That would be sweet if that clip is the onw I need. Does anyone have any idea which clip it is? I will definately be contacting my dealer again to see if he knows anything about it.
tikiboy
01-05-2004, 02:19 AM
www.gmpartsdirect.com (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) lists these part numbers under the front door window regulator/motor category with a description of clip. GM list price 33.32, their price 18.99. Alot better than 300+...
tikiboy
01-05-2004, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by GA1999
As far as I can tell, it is very recent due to a TSB GM released on this issue. Please refer to Shawn's post in the problems section:
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=17167
Does anyone have this TSB?? I would like to see it and take it with me when I go to yell at my dealer. :magus:
Astrodaemon
01-09-2004, 12:10 AM
One place you might try is autoandart.com it's a guy out of nevada that owns a yard and a shop. The problem with the regulator setup is there are 3 pre-cut holes, any common sense will tell you holes in metal weaken the product. Generally the regulators will bend or snap by one of the holes. The replacement regulator and motor I picked up from this guy didn't have the extra holes in the metal. It's a much stronger piece and even uses a smaller motor. Believe it or not my window rolls up and down faster with the new setup than my old one did before it bent to hell.
tikiboy
01-23-2004, 12:52 AM
I ordered the 2 parts from GM Parts Direct (http://www.gmpartsdirect.com) and will be arriving monday. I hope this is the part I need...
02GARacer
01-23-2004, 03:16 PM
both my windows just went out peice of crap GM wondows
cprock98
02-19-2004, 02:24 PM
I would this this would be a safety issue. If you have your window in the up postion and can't roll it down, and then you somehow manage to drive into a lake you would roll the window down to let the water in slowly as the car sinks, and that would be a safety issue. True?
Black99GT3
02-19-2004, 04:31 PM
haha yes good observation..wow i posted this over the summer! i love that people are still replying
coasterboy69
02-24-2004, 09:06 AM
I just found a regulator for $35 bucks at a local pick-a part yard. A buddy of mine has been in the autoglass field for 20 years and is going to do it for a case of beer tonight.. He said he does at least 10-15 GA's a month. All with the same clip problem.
tikiboy
02-24-2004, 11:29 AM
Check outthis thread (http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=253406#post253406) if anyone has problems with the clips breaking!!!
t_Spat
06-24-2005, 01:45 PM
hey im havin the problem with ma window to but its not that lil part on the regulator its the lil part in this pic
http://www.a1electric.com/install/grand/14.jpg
it the one with the red arrow pointin to it, it snapped right in the middle this was -----
how would i go about fixin this?
jashley12
06-25-2005, 11:18 AM
i have a 95 se and my drivers door has problems a new window regulator is only about $50 shipped
tikiboy
06-26-2005, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by t_Spat
hey im havin the problem with ma window to but its not that lil part on the regulator its the lil part in this pic
http://www.a1electric.com/install/grand/14.jpg
it the one with the red arrow pointin to it, it snapped right in the middle this was -----
how would i go about fixin this?
I don't know what it item is with the red arrow. The yellow arrows are pointing to the clip that I purchased. Good luck.
Vince
06-30-2005, 10:48 AM
The red arrow is pointing to a metal piece that holds the window. You should be able to buy it at your dealership, and it's not very hard to fix. The only thing is you have to remove the original, which is glued on to the window, and replace with the new one and then put some glue on the new one hold the window on in place. It's not hard, I've done it on mine already.
t_Spat
06-30-2005, 04:54 PM
how did u remove the old one?
Ayisha43
06-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by scott9050
The regulator looks like a scissor jack and operates in about the same way to raise and lower the window. Mine is gone in my 93 Skylark, I am going to look for one in the local pick-your-part.
Where can I find one of the local pick-your-part?
Vince
07-01-2005, 04:19 PM
Well, in my case, the glue must have worn out, cause my window was loose, it didn't brake on mine, but because the window was loose, it caused that plastic clip that goes on the rail to break. That's how I found out, when my window started tilting, and wouldn't close anymore. But if yours is broken, and you need to take it off,there should be some kind of stuff you can buy to remove it. Or you can ask the guys where you buy the new one. Usually they'll help you out, at least they do where I go. Sorry if I wasn't much help there.
AleroGL
07-06-2005, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by t_Spat
hey im havin the problem with ma window to but its not that lil part on the regulator its the lil part in this pic
http://www.a1electric.com/install/grand/14.jpg
it the one with the red arrow pointin to it, it snapped right in the middle this was -----
how would i go about fixin this?
on mine, the white plastic clips was broken ans cracked when I remove the door...
i removed the white thing an with a torch I bruned it to stick it in one piece like a new one :D :D :D
the only probleme now its the motors that are very weak when go up:(
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