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Einhander
12-05-2003, 03:35 AM
Will a 3100 V6 be able to handle a turbo?
I have access to a turbo, but its off a totally different car, would it still work? Is there anything I need to upgrade to withstand the extra air?
I dont think it would work out, considering the manafacturer made the turbo stock with the engine, so its probably only made for that particular car?
95-GT
12-05-2003, 08:56 AM
well turbos are kind of universal. what is it off of?
Your car can handle a turbo.....but not much boost. There is also A LOT more stuff you have to do (FMU, intercooler, timing and more) to mat the turbo to the car.
1996v6corsica
12-05-2003, 02:37 PM
with enough money you can make it turbo, i dont think it is a real good motor to mess around with boost on, wasnt meant to be boosted, has enough trouble holding itself together on its own :]
Antalive[DM]
12-05-2003, 02:43 PM
cmon give it more credit than that. All of the imports that were not turbo werent made for turbo either. 8 Psi is safe but after that you will want to have other mods like intrenal. (too lazy to type all the details unless you pm me) But then there is transmission mods. It's really "possible" if you are serious about it. You can do it and it can be safe for every day driving. Just let me know if you are.
96gtcoupe
12-05-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
well turbos are kind of universal. what is it off of?
Your car can handle a turbo.....but not much boost. There is also A LOT more stuff you have to do (FMU, intercooler, timing and more) to mat the turbo to the car.
where did you get the euor tails? there nice, i'd want them for my 96gt.
Einhander
12-05-2003, 04:20 PM
Its off an last 80's Chrysler Le Baron
96gtcoupe
12-05-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Einhander
Its off an last 80's Chrysler Le Baron
Lemme get this straight..an 80's series lebaron has alteezas? Thats just sick! lol
95-GT
12-05-2003, 08:24 PM
no no no.....they wqere talking to me. I made them...you cant clear the tails in the 96-98 GA's.
96gtcoupe
12-05-2003, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
no no no.....they wqere talking to me. I made them...you cant clear the tails in the 96-98 GA's.
dizam! Oh well, good try ..I like yours... tight!
TA^Guy
12-06-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Einhander
Its off an last 80's Chrysler Le Baron
If that is where you go the turbo make sure its stil in good shape. Check the impeller and compressor for end play. Make sure it's not loose in there. This would actually be a decent turbo for a low boost application which is what you'll want if your keeping the motors internals stock.
Other than the turbo you may want to get larger fuel injectors and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. You will also want to adjust the timing. Along with pipe work don't forget you'll need to plump oil lines from the pan, or oil gully like the pressure switch or sending unit. And if the turbo is mounted below the motor you'll need a oil resevior and a seperate pump because almost all turbos gravity feed the return oil to the engine, this is why many are mounted higher than the engine it's self.
Another good ideal would be to port and polish the intake and maybe even heads. The boost will remain the same but you'll have less restrictions getting it there.
Also the exhaust after the turbo should be atleast 2.75"s or even 3"s. Turbo cars do not need backpressure as much as NA cars, and they benifit greatly from the least ammount of restrictions.
I just hope you understand there is a great deal more than just slapping tubing together and installing a hairdryer. I left out alot of details take a look around the web and find some good sites that can help you out.
Good luck.
Einhander
12-06-2003, 06:19 AM
Yah I realize theres a ton of extra work to install a turbo. But i just wanted to know if I could use it. So if I can get the turbo, Ill keep it in a safe place and save up for all the other upgrades at one time.
Thanks for the feedback
95-GT
12-06-2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by TA^Guy
Also the exhaust after the turbo should be atleast 2.75"s or even 3"s. Turbo cars do not need backpressure as much as NA cars, and they benifit greatly from the least ammount of restrictions.
You can actually go with a 3" downpipe and 2.5" from there back, but all mandral bent.
TA^Guy
12-06-2003, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by 95-GT
You can actually go with a 3" downpipe and 2.5" from there back, but all mandral bent.
Why bother with a 3" downpipe if your jus tgoing to bottle it up?
Thats like pouring a bucket of water though a funnel.
Street-racer
12-06-2003, 06:28 PM
you can put on a turbo, but you cant make much out of it unless you work your engine up. Thats generic reply and works for most stock engines.
Some engines are kind of well designed and can handle 20 psi right off the bat, but those are rare and I would suggest you talk to a real mechanic who does turbos for cars like this they will be able to tell you better info then most people on this site.
95-GT
12-07-2003, 12:41 AM
I am doing 8psi for daily use and 12 for race use only. When I build the motor up, I will be running about 18-20
Antalive[DM]
12-07-2003, 02:53 PM
Ya, see that sounds about right for the use.
LiL Grand Am
12-09-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Antalive[DM]
Ya, see that sounds about right for the use. ? What is better a Supercharger or a Turbo. I know what it does on the 3800 GTP . Would like some feed back on what is better.
95-GT
12-09-2003, 10:50 PM
turbo. you get more power at the same psi. but it costs more to build, and there is a lot more tuning.
grandizzle
12-10-2003, 12:09 AM
im going turbno soon......pshhh
Antalive[DM]
12-10-2003, 02:08 PM
Yeah turbo is better, but maintenance is more frequent as when some superchargers dont require any at all sometimes if car is maintained well. But i go with turbo just cause i LOVE the way it works a whole lot better than superchargers.
LiL Grand Am
12-10-2003, 10:59 PM
Do they make a turbo system for a 3.4 Grand Am . If so what is about the cost of it to hook up and will it run with n20
grandizzle
12-11-2003, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by LiL Grand Am
Do they make a turbo system for a 3.4 Grand Am . If so what is about the cost of it to hook up and will it run with n20
www.exploitedracing.com
careful though, it might become exploded racing for you to
Antalive[DM]
12-11-2003, 12:17 PM
Only problem with That web site is he has a 3.4 and if he uses that he will have to come up with a Trubo manifold to fit his car. So if you are gonna get a turbo kit at this time you wont have one you will have to build one, and to do that you will have to know exactly what you will need. And to get your desired performance you might take it to the extreme. Gl if you are gonna do it, but i dont think so right now. I have been wanting to do it for a long time. I NEED MONEY!!!!! lol If you need any help let me knw! :D
95-GT
12-11-2003, 12:43 PM
HPP is making a kit right now...it will be about $4000 for it. Or Advantage Motorsports could make you onw for like $3500-$3800
Frinkiac7
12-11-2003, 12:59 PM
Im in the process of doing this now. If you install the turbo before doing any modifications to the engine or exhaust, run at lower PSI. I'm sticking mine on probably before I even get the SLP cat-back or high flow cat. Do not buy a turbo from someone as is. Call up Turbonetics or Garrett, they'll ask you about your car, and give you a good estimate on price for a full turbo (not kit). The only problem with that is that you will only know exactly how it will work on your car once you have the turbo. I dont remember who said it, but definitely find a turbo shop who manufactures turbo's. Mine is being custom built with Garrett components from a shop called TEC. Unfortunately theyre only in Colorado, but goto turboengineering.com and check it out. Thats the type of place you want to find. Most shops you'll get to talk personally with the techs. Ive talked to about 5 of them so far at that one shop.
Its a good resource when you dont know everything about turbochargers, or even when you do. At least this way there's people there willing to help and backup their product. Also, consider buying a turbo manual. The Ray Hall 'Turbocharging' book is probably the best.
95-GT
12-11-2003, 02:55 PM
Like I said...I will be doing 12 lbs of boost on a stock motor. It all comes down to now overboosting, intercooling it, and not advancing timing.
LiL Grand Am
12-11-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Antalive[DM]
Only problem with That web site is he has a 3.4 and if he uses that he will have to come up with a Trubo manifold to fit his car. So if you are gonna get a turbo kit at this time you wont have one you will have to build one, and to do that you will have to know exactly what you will need. And to get your desired performance you might take it to the extreme. Gl if you are gonna do it, but i dont think so right now. I have been wanting to do it for a long time. I NEED MONEY!!!!! lol If you need any help let me knw! :D That seems like more money to have one custom built. and like you said i have a 3.4. not at 4 banger.there is nothing wrong with a 4 bannger but i dont think it would fit my car.
95-GT
12-11-2003, 10:34 PM
Actually, what costs the most is the turbo itself (between $200-$800) and the intercooler ($500 custom made). Everything else is pretty cheap. Custom building one can be cheap. For example...I am making mine for under $1800.
Antalive[DM]
12-12-2003, 12:09 PM
:agree: Yes they can be cheap. You just have to shop right. It all depends on what you get!
95-GT
12-12-2003, 12:17 PM
Yep. You can pick up a new bosch BOV for $33 shipped.
Antalive[DM]
12-12-2003, 12:18 PM
:lol:
95-GT
12-12-2003, 12:20 PM
Whats with that face?
Antalive[DM]
12-12-2003, 12:22 PM
:lol: = lol
95-GT
12-12-2003, 12:28 PM
why is it funny tho? lol
Antalive[DM]
12-12-2003, 12:32 PM
Im just laughing at the cruel irony of how people charge so much and it can be so cheap, and the only reason people do fall for it is because they are just so afraid to build it on there own. lol
95-GT
12-12-2003, 01:16 PM
ahh. lol
96gtcoupe
12-12-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by 95-GT
Actually, what costs the most is the turbo itself (between $200-$800) and the intercooler ($500 custom made). Everything else is pretty cheap. Custom building one can be cheap. For example...I am making mine for under $1800.
Hey, thats affordable..lol, I got the 96 if you dont mind..put me on to the peoples that are doing your set-up. That would be straight if I could get a turbo set up for that price range!
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