My car is totaled

[Peyman]

Well, i was in the second lane, and i saw a street that i needed to make a turn on, not thinking straight, i made a fast right and the car in the far right lane, hit me in the rear, i did a 180 and another car hit my side, i honestly think it was my fault, i shouldnt have made a turn like that, but some people that ive talked to say no matter what it was her fault because she rear ended me, what do you guys think? anyways, the aed rear bumper is pretty messed up, i dont know if its worth even repairing, the aed rockers and door panels for the most part are fine, i need a new frame, rear quarter panel (both sides), i need a lot of crap, pretty much 2-3 body shops told me it was totaled and its not even worth fixing it, i had this feeling of just giving up on it, i worked so hard for it...i payed for all of the car and its mods and its repairs, then something inside me clicked and said, im not gonna let it go that easy, made a bunch of phone calls...etc...and now its in the shop getting fixed, friend of a family member is fixing it, so total damage i have to pay is $1900, and that dosent include paint, last time i wanted to get this body kit...my tranny went out and i had to pay $1000 to get it fixed, and now this happend, so i dont know...things just arent going too well in my life overall...but theres no point in living if im going to feel sorry for myself, im gonna get my baby fixed, and im gonna get back on track.

[96_GA_GT]

dude that's too bad, hope the best for ya

[Gigante]

sorry to hear it. it depends on how the lady hit u though. if is directly on the rear of ur car it is her fault no matter what u did. If she hit u on the corner/ rear then i'm not sure. Good luck with everything though.

[BLACK99GT/ROB]

Peyman,I am glad to hear you are not giving up,it would be easy to do.I know how much pride you have in your ride and you try to take such good care of it and this happens.Hang in there,I know there will be better days ahead!

[Riley1123d]

Just outta curiousity.. lol.. what was she driving?

[mom2mac]

at least no one was hurt...let's think when we drive out there and be in the lane you need to be in b4 the turn ;)

I can nott ell you how many near misses are caused by people not paying attention and instead of taking the time to go the extra block or so to get in the proper lane and turn around properly they fly across traffic or whip U-turns and endanger others.

That is the MOM speaking!!!

[Bouchie11982]

aww :( im sorry to hear about it...do u have any pics for us to see how bad it is? and maybe we coudl help you out..

[30thAnnGAGT]

WOW!!!?? Frame damage and only 1900 bucks to repair it??!

I hope the kit survives man!! :D

[2002GT]

totalled and its only 1900 in damage...??? i would move on

[02GARacer]

FUK MAN Sorry to hear

[XtremeGrandAm]

Very sorry to hear that. about your question on whoose fault it is. I know that the rule where if a car hits you from the rear its the car who hits the car in front isnt being followed here in indiana. They will either determine fault based on what happend now or make it a no fault accident here. Where each owner has to cover their own damage. That just changed recently. I know this because a friend of mine was in an accident that wasnt his fault where a car hit the rear of his car and they called it a no fault accident. But thats just here it may be different where you live because I know it wasnt always like that here

[TA^Guy]

That sucks. I guess we don't have to tell you how sexy it is anymore. Lets see some shots of the damage doesn't sound that bad from the story.
I really hope you start paying more attention while behind the wheel. IIRC didn't you hit a old lady awhile back?
It's like this kid I try not to ride with. His first year out, has been down 3 or 4 times and is on his second new bike. Sooner or later they will be peeling him off the blacktop somewhere if he doesn't wake up.

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

That sucks but glad your ok.

[Peyman]

lets see..well its 1900...and thats a good deal because i know the guy thats fixing it for me, and that price dosent include paint, anyways, i thought about moving on, but i cant, i cant afford to, and i dont want to, i love my car so much...it resembles me...i worked hard for it and im not gonna let it go....

[angelluv98]

im soo sorry to hear that!! :cry:

im glad that you are okay thou and you are not giving up on your baby.... :)

[Peyman]

thanks angel...we all love our GA'S...

[angelluv98]

yes we do :D

[Black99GT3]

Peyman, keep your head up with everything in life...things will get better you just gotta work through the tough times and never give up..if your gut tells you to stick with the GA, then i'd say stick with it..in your post you said there is $1900 worth of damage and body shops have said its totaled?? I had $6,000 worth when some guy hit me over the summer and i just got a brand new front end to the car (w/ new airbags and stuff), so i think sticking with your GA right now would be the best bet IMO because you've worked so hard on it..good luck with everything...keep us updated!

[Black99GT3]

By the way..i was frustrated when i got in my accident and didn't know whether to just get a new car or not (granted, you've done 10 times more work on yours because i really don't know how to do anything), but when you get it back after all of the body work is done, it will be the best feeling in the world and you'll be glad you stuck with it when you see that beauty pull out of the body shop all shiny and new looking

[3 DeeJay]

:lol: I traded my 99 GT in during the time it was getting fixed.. cause the dealer where I had it fixed it where I also bought my new car..

[1994 sse]

that sucks man

[Crackers]

Too bad about the accident, but at least no one was hurt!

Dad speaking: RANT: How could you change lanes without due care, you could have killed someone, perhaps a little baby!

Crackers back, rant over: I would guess that you will be 100% responsible. If I were the other driver I would claim 0% and bring it to court if needed.

As far as the damage, careful when fixing a frame; GA's don't really have one, so special equipment is needed... they are bummers to fix. For $1,900 you can't even get a new hood (exageration), so the dammage couldn't have been that extensive; mostly superficial.

[4kQuad]

Sorry to hear about your car, It's hard to put that much work into something and loose it.

I have to say, you have growen up a lot since I started reading your posts. You admitted your fault, took matters into your own hands as far as calling places to get it fixed, making decisions on what to do.

I'm not sure you would have done that a year ago. At least I was not under the impression you would have from your posts them.

A bent frame........well is HARD to make right again. I hope all works out for you, as you have worked HARD for it.

[Y2KGAGT]

Was there a police report? It doesnt automatically mean its her fault cause she hit you from behind... if both stories were true, that you did in fact cut her off to the point of no avoidance and you admitted that to the cops then NO she is not at fault.

Lets hope you at least had the decency to not pin it on her when it was your fault.

[HighwayProwlerz]

Dude that sucks SOOOO bad!!!! I'm sorry! :(

[Antalive[DM]]

I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. MY car was totaled recently to. BUT...........................I am still driving it and plan to make it better that ever. GOOD LUCK :)

[Peyman]

there were no witnesses, so there was no police report written, i just called my insurance company and they said that they called in saying that i rear ended her, which is not possible cause my rear is messed up, and the front of her car is messed up, hmm...now im making phone calls and seeing what i can do...oh and heres a pic of the rear bumper

[Peyman]

pics of the accident

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/281000-281999/281980_48_full.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/281000-281999/281980_49_full.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/281000-281999/281980_50_full.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/281000-281999/281980_51_full.jpg

[Artic]

That looks like alot of damage in general more than I had on my 01 to get it totaled.

[Riley1123d]

oh man..

[sunrunner_pei]

:tears: That sucks, Peyman.

[GrandAmageGT]

I don't think that she is at fault at all. Let me get something straight...you were in 1 lane and she was in another. You cut into her lane to make a turn? If that's the case than it'll be...or at least should be your fault rather than hers. She has no obligation to be a "safe" distance behind you if she wasnt in your lane. Of course I'm no expert on the law...but that's just my opinion.

Either way man, tough break. It'd kill me to put so much effort into my car only to wreck it. :(

[92CamaroRS]

from what i know an accedent is a crime sceen and if she wanted she could sue you for leaving the sceen of an accident. anytime your involved in something like that the cops should be called. from what i understand it is totally your fault. still sucks. so you are turning it into insurance? if so they will total it and yes you can buy it back from them and fix it but then you have a car with a salvage title and then your car isnt even work $1900. id total it out. buy it back from them then part the car out and then buy something else. yes you put alot of work into it but if the sides on it are good then you could get the same body style and transfer most of your mods to the new car. i guess its what id do. still sucks tho.

[TA^Guy]

I'm shocked that two people had a accident with this much damage and no one called the police to file a proper report.
Seems some people need to go back to drivers ed.

[Peyman]

i dont recall saying that there was no police there, when the accident happend, a police officer was right there, he just didnt see what happend....there was a report

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by Peyman
there were no witnesses, so there was no police report written,


Originally posted by Peyman dont recall saying that there was no police there, when the accident happend, a police officer was right there, he just didnt see what happend....there was a report

those are conflicting statements. how about some truth?

[Peyman]

lol...maybe im confused....all the cop did was make sure we exchanged info...then he gave us a case #...so that means he made a report?..right?

[tido_29]

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( hurts to see it that way....


brings back memories of my accident ( click on link below)..

glad to see you are okay.. but i was told that mine was totalled and well look at the cardomain site too.

[Peyman]

Tido, i remember your accident...and i just checked out ur current pics, your car looks great, hopefully my car will be just as nice when it gets out of the shop

[mom2mac]

that is a heck of a lot of damage...hope she is alright b/c I know in my car if (either of them) had that much damage in the rear the other car would have about the same to it's front and THAT is not good!!! :shake:

[gagt98driver]

From looking at the damage.... well in all honesty its time to total the car out.

I don't care who does the work its never going to be "right" again... and the fact that they're quoting you $1900 because you know them doesn't lend me to believe the repair will be even remotely satisfactory to you in the end.

That's a lot, and I mean a lot of rear end frame damage... Being a uni-body car much more than just the rear end was screwed up in this accident. You can go about attempting to get it fixed however:
A) The body panels will probably never line up properly again or set square on the vehicle
B) The car will probably never be able to be properly aligned again

In short the car is f-ed, toss it and move on.

[2001GAGT]

I would let the car go. Once the frame is bent in a un-body let it go. (infect if an insurance company wanted to fix mine I would eithere fight with them to write it off or sell/trade)

[JoeyK]

Originally posted by gagt98driver
From looking at the damage.... well in all honesty its time to total the car out.

I don't care who does the work its never going to be "right" again... and the fact that they're quoting you $1900 because you know them doesn't lend me to believe the repair will be even remotely satisfactory to you in the end.

That's a lot, and I mean a lot of rear end frame damage... Being a uni-body car much more than just the rear end was screwed up in this accident. You can go about attempting to get it fixed however:
A) The body panels will probably never line up properly again or set square on the vehicle
B) The car will probably never be able to be properly aligned again

In short the car is f-ed, toss it and move on.

:agree: I agree w/ almost everything said. I do body & paint for a living. Trust me, it'll never be the same again. The only way to make it right is to tear it WAY down, like a restoration job & that's VERY costly. Sorry to say, I know it's hard to let go after you spend so much time personalizing a car but it'd be very wise to call it a day, strip her of all the goodies & move on.

[Peyman]

okay guys, put yourself in my shoes, i started working when i was 16, i saved up to buy my own computer, my own computer desk, my own bed, pretty much everything in my room, i payed for, from then, i saved up and bought myself a car, took me a while to pay it off especially since i was paying for all of it, then all the money i put into it, ive spent a total of $11,000-$12,000, and i also pay for all of my own school, now im not trying to sit here and make anyone feel bad for me, i want you guys to understand that its hard for me to total it, and start new, im tired of making payments, i want to just start saving and do something nice w/ my money, start my own little business on ebay or something like that, but if i go out and try to get another car, i would have to finance it, i barley have any money to put as a down payment, meaning my monthly payment will be really expensive plus in the long run i will pay a crap load extra for interest, so i hope you guys understand, im the only one supporting myself, and i think fixing my car for 1900 for now is the best i can do

[92CamaroRS]

junking it will be the best bet for your money. youll get insurance which will be more than 1900. then you can buy the car back for like 200 and then part it out and make a good 1-2 grand more on it and then you would have one hell of a down payment on a newer car or even enugh to completly pay of the same body style as yours and then you would be able to just Move some of your goodies to the new ride. keeping it in all respects is about the worse financal move you can make. might not seem like it but you need to figure on how much insurance will get ya. run blue book on it. then when insurance offers you x amount then make a couter offer.

[Peyman]

i have liabilty on it, and so far it seems like the accident was my fault, i dont know if they will give me anything for it, anyways, its too late, its in the shop, they started working on it today, plus i just dont have time for that stuff, im trying to get a job at the bank, im constantly going to interviews, training etc...im already being sued by some old lady that threw herself at my car and now shes trying to get $100,000 out of me, i guess i just dont have it in me anymore...dont have the strenght to want to part it out etc...u feel me?

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by Peyman
i have liabilty on it, and so far it seems like the accident was my fault, i dont know if they will give me anything for it, anyways, its too late, its in the shop, they started working on it today, plus i just dont have time for that stuff, im trying to get a job at the bank, im constantly going to interviews, training etc...im already being sued by some old lady that threw herself at my car and now shes trying to get $100,000 out of me, i guess i just dont have it in me anymore...dont have the strenght to want to part it out etc...u feel me?

that is why i keep full insurance on any vehicle i car about. not meaning to flame ya but instead of a body kit you could have had full insurance. your car look nice with out it anyway.

[Peyman]

well whatever, you learn from your mistakes, at the time i didnt have enough money for full insurance, the body kit, i got a $700 loan from a friend, cause i had just got the bank job, and im selling stuff on ebay that will bring some money in...whatever, its a learning experience

[JGray]

Originally posted by Peyman
i have liabilty on it, and so far it seems like the accident was my fault, i dont know if they will give me anything for it, anyways, its too late, its in the shop, they started working on it today, plus i just dont have time for that stuff, im trying to get a job at the bank, im constantly going to interviews, training etc...im already being sued by some old lady that threw herself at my car and now shes trying to get $100,000 out of me, i guess i just dont have it in me anymore...dont have the strenght to want to part it out etc...u feel me?

First off glad to hear your ok. That sucks about the car.

Do you just have liability or do you have comprehensive and colision as well?

As I understand it, if you only have liability then you'll get nothing back if you total it. I say keep it man. I can relate with buying everything on your own. Keep it, Fix it and run it til its dead.

[tikiboy]

Originally posted by JGray
First off glad to hear your ok. That sucks about the car.

Do you just have liability or do you have comprehensive and colision as well?

As I understand it, if you only have liability then you'll get nothing back if you total it. I say keep it man. I can relate with buying everything on your own. Keep it, Fix it and run it til its dead.
:agree:
Like he said, first and formost glad to hear you are ok!! That really stinks that happened to you and your beautiful car.
In Wisconsin, if the damage is over $1000, a police report must be written. The way I see it, you are at 100% fault.
Good to see you had liability. Now very little or no money should have to come out of your pocket for the damages to the other cars.
I feel ya about full insurance. I just get by paying all my bills and insurance and school and etc.

[tikiboy]

Originally posted by Peyman
well whatever, you learn from your mistakes, ......whatever, its a learning experience
:agree: It's a part of life everyone has to go through, learning from your mistakes.

[Black99GT3]

I'd say do whatever you think is right...you're the only one that has to deal with what is going on right now with anything in your life, so do what your head tells you to, not what other people tell you to do..there are a lot of people on here giving you good advice, but its advice that THEY would do..not you..so just do whatever you think is best for yourself..sorry if i repeated myself...i too feel ya about paying full insurance..i do it, but it kills me..it's like $2000 a year and being a full-time college student, i have to get by with what i make over summer/winter...keep ya head up man things will be good

[gagt98driver]

If you're that determined to keep the car then simply store it for the time being. Throw a tarp over it and leave it parked. By something for your transport needs like an older Cutlass Ciera (they're usually pretty damn cheap and will run forever). Save up the money and slowly piece the car back together.

That being said:
A) It will never be the same again
B) I don't care how much "emotional" attachment you have to it, its a Grand Am. Its not some sort of exotic car or rare production model that only 1000 of were ever made.

You're setting yourself up for more headaches and more money spent than you would if you just parted the car out and bought something else. Hell this $1900 isn't even going to cover paint. By the time you get done with restoring the car you're going to spend 5 times the cash the thing is worth, and continually be fighting problems that will crop up in the future because of this accident.

Soon after its repaired, you'll be posting questions on here like:
"Hey guys, my car won't stay in alignment and is tearing up the tires are a regular basis... is there any way to fix this?"
"I've got this strange noise comming from the rear end of the car that just won't go away."
"My rear window is leaking"
"My trunk's got a water leak"
etc....

Write the car off man. Seriously. These days cars are disposeable... unless its just minor cosmetic damage, any damage that affects the frame is typically unrepairable (unrepairable meaning that it will never be the same again... and usually not even close to the original).

Hell you've heard from JoeyK on here who does paint and body for a living... and his sentiments are the same.

BTW, slightly off topic whats up with this:
im trying to get a job at the bank, im constantly going to interviews......

...... cause i had just got the bank job,
Care to clarify the confusion inherent in these two blatently contradicting statements.

Oh and as far as not being able to afford a different vehicle, its called living within your means buddy. Buy a car you can afford and save for the car you want or wait till you have a better job to buy the car you want.

When I traded in my GA for the Buick, yeah I really really wanted that 2001 WS6 that they had setting on the lot, but I knew I couldn't afford the payments much less the insurance on the vehicle and so I went with something that satisfied my requirements for transportation and was comfortable and that I could easily swing the payments and insurance on.

[Peyman]

thanks for your imput, but the car is already in the shop being fixed, too late, plus, thats what i want, about the job, sorry for the confusion, they keep giving me the run around, go to a interview here, there etc...then they say you got the job, then they say you have one more interview...so right now, according to them i have the job, i just need to do a crap load of things before i actually get it...

[Riley1123d]

Originally posted by Peyman
i guess i just dont have it in me anymore...

I don't like that quote. You ALWAYS have it in you. Everybody does what they gotta do. And ya know what? If that lady is sueing you, so be it. Give her one hell of a run for her money.

[02GARacer]

ouch man, reminds me of my 1996 GA accident right befor it went to andys but mines was the front em i got a new Front bumper, Hood, supporting beam behind the bumber, head light, mirror, radiator, struts, and some bar that controls the streeing that was maing me go side ways when i had the wheel straight

cost me 2.2k total! i was pissed and it was my borthers fault becasue he rear ended some car on the free way going about 60MPH. Car was in the shop for about 3 weeks and it was all used parts and labor

[Night Wolf]

Well, I was gonna say the same thing that gagt98driver said.... about putting it away and throwing a tarp over it, and getting a cheap car to knock around in then fix it at a later time...... While, IMO the damage to that car is alot, and if wuld probally be better to take everything off that car, strip it and sell it, then get another GA similar to yours, and put your stuff on it, I do know how you feel attached to the car...... if anything like that ever happened to my DeVille, I would definitly keep it and never let it go, the Olds OTOH dosn't matter..... kinda like the little side-side-telephone-poll thingy I had.... There are no long term effects of that on me with the Olds, the DeVille would be far differnt though....

.... But if it is in the shop, then that is the decsion you have made, hopefully it'll work out and you will be happy.... thats all that matters :)

[GA1999]

That sucks....but I bet you'll be looking next time before ya make a right hand turn from the left hand lane!

[dearim]

How on Earth did I miss seeing this sooner!? Peyman, that absolutely, competely and unequivocally sucks!

However, I'm gonna have to agree with the others here that you shouldn't have fixed the car. Believe me, I felt almost exactly the same way when my Integra got wrecked because it was such a rare car (four-door Integras aren't that common, and the dark blue is almost impossible to find). I realized the next day that it wasn't a good idea to have it fixed up, and was glad when I moved on to bigger and better things. But since you are fixing it, I hope it works out for you. You had/have one of the nicest pre-'99s I've seen. Truly a sad happening.

[RyanB]

Sorry to hear about that i hope that everything goes smoothly for you.

[Peyman]

car should be out of the shop any day now...ill post pics in the members car section when i get it back

[4kQuad]

while I agree with most of the others....I still have to give you a thumbs up. The Pure stick to it, getting something you have put so much of YOUR life into fixed. Be proud of your self, people make bad decisions/mistakes as they grow.

besides I may be wrong, but I bet a few of the people saying dump it have not worked as hard as you to get there car.

So if I was you dad ( so to speak ) I would have to slap you in the back of the head for dumping more money to it. Yet I would have to give you a pat on the back, for being proud you stuck with it.
:penny:

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by 4kQuad
while I agree with most of the others....I still have to give you a thumbs up. The Pure stick to it, getting something you have put so much of YOUR life into fixed. Be proud of your self, people make bad decisions/mistakes as they grow.

besides I may be wrong, but I bet a few of the people saying dump it have not worked as hard as you to get there car.

So if I was you dad ( so to speak ) I would have to slap you in the back of the head for dumping more money to it. Yet I would have to give you a pat on the back, for being proud you stuck with it.
:penny:

Well said!

[vdgmcool]

Originally posted by Peyman
car should be out of the shop any day now...ill post pics in the members car section when i get it back

Awesome! Lets just hope your GA is better than it was.

[Peyman]

Originally posted by 4kQuad
while I agree with most of the others....I still have to give you a thumbs up. The Pure stick to it, getting something you have put so much of YOUR life into fixed. Be proud of your self, people make bad decisions/mistakes as they grow.

besides I may be wrong, but I bet a few of the people saying dump it have not worked as hard as you to get there car.

So if I was you dad ( so to speak ) I would have to slap you in the back of the head for dumping more money to it. Yet I would have to give you a pat on the back, for being proud you stuck with it.
:penny:

Thanks, really appreciate it, i saw my car yesterday at the shop and it was almost done, today im supposed to pick it up... ;)

[4kQuad]

I'm going to guess there will be a lot of fresh bare metal from straightening the car.

That untreaded metal will just over night almost. Really. Keep it dry, and get it primed fast or you may loose every thing you have worked for again.

My neighbor was a body man for years. He had the local Police car account. But the cars will rust as you watch almost.

[Peyman]

check out the main forum "i got my car back"