Want your Grand Am to run 14's? Just read

[93 SE]

If you want to mod your 3300. . Go to boosthead.com Thomas Knight a turbo expert has designed a real ELECTRIC supercharger that works. Its electric not some little piece of shit tornado. It can go up to 20 pounds of boost. It costs like 2 grand and it works. Guaranteed to add around 75 H.P. And you could always get a valve job and port and polish your heads which would add atleast add 25 H.P.
And machine shops can order forged pistons and rods for any car made. Then you could throw in a little nitrous and probably run 13's. If you really want to make your car fast you can do it, it just might not be as convenient but it can be done.

[tenspeed]

Another guy posted last week. His was around $600.

[93gagt3300]

how are they adding the extra fuel to meet the added supply of air?

[kubiache]

Yeah, just slap a little nitrous on there. Go ahead and just put a supercharger on anything.

You might want to do a little more research on that electric supercharger. Hell, you could probably search on here and read about why they don't work. 75hp? Show me a link to this thing, I'd be amazed if it worked.

[Justen]

Why would you waste the time on an electric supercharger when it is probably just as easy to install a longer belt, an extra pulley, and slap on a real supercharger?

[95-GT]

:hungry: http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_spam.gif :spam: :troll:

[donalson]

have any of you guys honestly looked into this system?... it's an amazing system for what it is... it's a genuine electirc blower... it uses a moderate sized blower (i'd say an eaton m60 prob) and 3 electric starter motors rewound to 24v... due to the positive displacment blower gains are nearly instant... however boost does drop off as you get higher in the PRM band (naturaly if you use a fixed displacment blower it only blows 60cid of air per revolution... starters give nearly instant max RPM speed of the blower, the air isn't moving though the engine near as quick at lower RPM's so there is praportionly more boost.

i've seen some dyno's of this sytem... don't think of it as boost... along w/ a good bit of reserch on it... just because i'm a car geek and like to know stuff :)...

the down side to the system is you can't think of it as genuine boost like you can from a SC or a turbo... but more as a shot of nitrous... due to the limitations of the batteries it's only good for about 15 sec and then it takes a while to recharge the drained batteries... and due to the required 24v system you have to have at least 3 batteries in the car... thats A LOT of additonal weight unless you use some of the 11lb dry cell batteries... which are about $150 a pop... also in order to get your re-charging times down you'd either need to hook the car up to a quick charger... or upgrade to a serious high output alternator...

now the positive things i can think of... the design idea is shear brilliance... the packaging is fairly unversal... they also did a very nice design for the air filter inlet so you aren't creating a huge restriction requiring the air to be pulled though the blower when the blower isn't on... they also desgined a nice alternator cut off... when you flick the switch to turn on the boost it shuts off the alternator so you aren't creating massive parisitic drag on your engine... which is the biggest evil of a normal SC in the 1st place

if the basic kit didn't run $2g's (and still require another $500 or so in parts) AND i was a hard core drag race junkie i woudl totaly go for the kit... just think of the huge turbo you could spool in conjunction w/ this thing... use a turbo that won't spool till that last 2k rpms running normaly... using the blower it would in effect increase your displacment and spool the snail up even quicker... plus you get the advantages of compound boost.

don't flame till you've reserched the system.

just my 2psi

mark

[95-GT]

Want research? How you going to control fuel with the added air since its a ghetto ass setup?

[donalson]

you can control fuel just like you would with any other boost setup... FMU... is his standard offering... butyou could use... SAFC (or other piggy backs), EMS, EIC (extra injector control) and a host of others options... i still contend this is a great drag racer only setup

it may be somewhat ghetto... but you know what... it works.

mark

[donalson]

ona side note... turbo magazine did an articale on this a while back... it was a good read and gave some neat insights as to even why somone would do something like this... it also answered a few questions i had (such as electric motor life)

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/

here is his web page... http://boosthead.com/ IMHO the biggest opsticale he's got is people like you who refuse to think outside the box... with out people like him we would all still be using crank starters, having to prime our cyls before every drive and be sitting on our gas cans... not to mention superchargers, turbos and boost would be non existant.

mark

[Old Guy]

Originally posted by donalson
with out people like him we would all still be using crank starters, having to prime our cyls before every drive and be sitting on our gas cans... not to mention superchargers, turbos and boost would be non existant.

mark

I have to agree with Mark on this.

Maybe it's not conventional or the most efficient way to go, but it will certainly work. I do think that we're years away from seeing electric S/Cs as being common, but I also believe as voltages go up on cars and electric motors are improved that they'll be readily available.


BTW.....Car and Driver Magazine is reporting Mazda will unveil the Electric-motor-assisted turbocharger at the October 2005 Tokyo Auto Show..........so is it really so far fetched?

[lrry_justice]

Would it be easier to just get a small nos setup instead of the blower???

[urweak]

How many extra batterys do you need again? Like 2-3? And its two grand? might aswell buy nitrous and engine mods for that money.

But i do see that its neat, but its probably at the point where anyone would really want this, maybe 10 years down the road.

[b2089]

I'm in the middle here. In theory, okay. In practice, no.

It would require more work than hooking up a real supercharger. To get it to really work you need a charging system similar to that of a hybrid car, or a spare alternator just for it.

Is a belt driven supercharger really that much of drain? I mean it boosts power so much, how could you call it a drain?

[b2089]

One other concern. High output alternators. Last time I checked they were frowned on for city driving. The higher output occurs at higher rpms, lower output at low rpms due the the higher wraping. Standard alternators put out a much more consistent power. This may have changed lately, but I haven't trusted them.