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[Hopesfall85]

Alright so i recently got my Alpine Type X components and they sound pretty damn good just for running off of a crappy mtxrt202 amp. This friday i'm getting a Alpine 9825 hu. Then the following weeks i'm going to purchase an MRV-f340 alpine 4 channel amp.

now here is my question.

Would it sound better if i bridged the amp and just hooked them up to my components and left my headunit to run my 6x9's?

I'm also deciding whether or not i should get type R 6x9's OR just get maybe 2 JL or Alpine subs.

what would sound better? i experimented with just my components and it didnt' sound powerful at all, will having a sub even everything out and make it sound really awesome?

if you guys think i should get another amp and sub let me know of some good deals for around 300.

[T3rry]

maybe run the 6x9's off the existing amp... and use the new amp for the subs

[Hopesfall85]

but what would i run the components off of?

i was thinking about this bandpass box

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-nIjJXaNgoAl/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?s=0&cc=01&i=500S1041BP&g=510

[T3rry]

assumign you hu has multipul preouts... run one set to each am and then to the speakers/subs

[Matt95GT]

Do not run your components off your headunit.

Use your cleanest quality amp for components, use most powerful for subs. 6x9's are just rear fill, they will do fine run off the headunit.

My advice, just use the Alpine 4 channel:
-front components in stereo mode
-bridge the remaining 2 channels for the sub(s)

Sell the extra amp.

[matts]

your headunit should have at least 2 outputs, but more than likely 3. if it only has 2 you could always get a external crossover (*cough Kicker KX3 :P ) and you only need 2 sets of outputs to run 3 amps. but if your deck has 3 outputs you wouldn't have a problem hooking up 3 amps.

im with terry. use the crappy amp on the 6x9s and the good amp on the components. if you only want to run 2 amps run the 6x9s off the deck, and then use your 2 amps on the components and subs. as for subs it's a matter of opinion and how hard you're going to push them. some people around here have had bad luck with the type r subs, but i've known of several people that have them and love them. i do know a guy that used them for SPL competition and he blew numerous sets of them, but to be fair to alpine he pushed them WAY too hard i think. they sounded great, but they just didn't hold up.

bandpass will give you a boomy sound. i used to (well i still have them, just not hooked up) 2 12" pioneer premier subs in a dual bandpass box and it sounded more like 2 15s, but now looking back it was more of a boomy bass than a good tight bass. even a ported box has more tightness than a bandpass. dont get me wrong, if you're wanting bass you can hear for blocks a bandpass is on the right path, but if you're wanting tight, punchy bass i'd stear clear of it.

i've got the type r components and 6x9s in emily's car and i think it sounds pretty damn good. don't get me wrong, i've heard better. but i've also heard ALOT worse :P. i don't think you'll go wrong with the type r 6x9s.

don't get in a hurry to get a system. you'll be more pleased if you take your time and build it slowly with the system components you would rather have versus buying all cheaper stuff just to say you have a system. do you think everyone gets all their nice stuff overnight?? more than likely not, aside from the rich people or the little rich kids than can squander money out of mommy and daddy. you've already got the components and you're about to get a headunit. i'd go ahead and get 6x9s next. they're fairly cheap (compared to what you need for sub(s)). then you can start working on the lower end of the spectrum.

are you building your own box? or going to buy a prefab? i'd get the box first, then get the amp, then get the subs. if not you're going to get the subs and be in such a hurry to use them you'll buddy them with cheap crap and then probably won't change it because it works, unless something happens to it. just a pointer, do it how you like. it's your money :)

[Hopesfall85]

alright cool, so i'll probably do this then.

go ahead and get my headunit, then the amp, followed by the 6x9's last

will those 6x9's be fine running at 18rms ? or do you think i should just hook them up to the amp also.



thanks for all that info, i'm gonna read it a few more times to remembe it.

[Hopesfall85]

oh geez, there was your thing about running them off the deck.

haha told you i'd need to read it again.

man those type x components are only to 50watts rms, 130x2 will be crazy won't it?

[matts]

well you could over do it and beat them up, but just be careful with them and you should do fine. normally i would say get some sort of crossover to keep those low frequencies from getting to the midranges, that'll help them alot. emily's are rated at 50rms too, but i've got 75 going to them. but i've got a crossover on them too and its set at 100Hz. it's still getting some bass notes, but it's not invading the subs territory. if you dont wanna run a crossover or bass blockers i'd just say keep the gain turned down and dont crank it up too loud on songs with lots of bass and you'll be fine.

yeah, 18 rms to those 6x9s will be fine.

[anteck7]

you can alaways three way your amp

im running all my stuff off one 4 channel and it sounds pretty good. I lost my fader control but it seems pretty balanced


i run the right front and rear parallel on channel one right, the left front and rear in parallel on the left and then bridge the rear channels for the sub.

Each speaker gets 80 watts and the sub gets 320 (all in rms) thats at 12 volts im measuring aroudn 14 off my alternator so lord knows how much they are actually getting, but i dont have the gain turned up all the way to begin with.

just get a powerful 4 channel.

[matts]

not a bad idea

[anteck7]

as long as you have balanced speakers your okay, the guy who suggested it to me ran a stereo business for a couplle of years, and did high quality stuff, and a very good job.

He really helped me choose parts for my system, and i got them at a great price.

but yea it works really well like this, just make sure the amp is 2 ohm stable.

ie my amp does

80*4 at 4 ohms

160*4 at 2 ohms

320 * 2 at 4 ohms

so i run both front channels at 2 ohms (4 parralled with 4 =2) and the power gets devided equally.

the 320 just hits up my r ear sub.


at 14 volts

this thing will put out approx 50 to 60 mors watts.

[Hopesfall85]

alright thanks guys! i'll keep that in mind!