Grand Am Products by ADTR?

[ADTR]

Hello, I am one of the owners of Angry Duck Tofu Racing. We do custom turbo work and are currently making products for Pontiac Bonneville's, Ford Crown Victoria's, and more. I have been looking around and seeing that there are not many parts available for the Grand Am's. I was curious if you guys/gals would like to see products make for Grand Am's?

For example an intake that you get your money's worth, not get ripped off. Also headers that are a good price, like S&S Headers with free shipping? Would people also be interested in a turbo kit for the 3.4L? What about a short shifter, upper sheetmetal intake manifold, bigger Throttle Body, Throttle Body Spacer, swaybars, carbon fiber/fiberglass hood, cat-back exhaust, hi-flow cat/downpipe combo, ported intake manifolds, ported exhaust manifolds, ported and polished heads with ceramic coating, Energy Suspension bushing kit, front and rear strut tower braces. Those are a few ideas and products I see lacking in the Grand Am's.

We can also get alot of products that are currently available for the Grand Am at much cheaper prices than many places sell it for. Powerslots rotors, Borla, Eibach, PIAA, Taylor Wires, & more. Still building alot of the ADTR website so more products for Grand Am's will shop up there soon.

Just let me know what you guys/gals think and what is available so we don't try and make doubles of products that already work. And suggestions would be more than welcome. We just want to get a feel for the Grand Am market and see if people are interested in products. Also perhaps a Grand Am club shirt that you would be proud to wear as well? Post your replies here and/or email me @ Hector@angryducktofuracing.com. Replying here is preferred since everyone can see the questions/answers.

Thanks,

Hector
ADTR 99 Bonneville SE

Angry Duck Tofu Racing
www.angryducktofuracing.com

[sunrunner_pei]

I think I speak for all of us when I say we're ALWAYS interested in new products! :agree:

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by sunrunner_pei
I think I speak for all of us when I say we're ALWAYS interested in new products! :agree:

*Puts hands up in the air and waves them*
"AMEN!"

[92CamaroRS]

once again the good ole 3300 gets looked over :( i wouldnt mind a turbo kit for my car and if your close enugh to me i would even be willing to donate my car for fabricating. let me know man! i was gonna do one custom my self but hey it be nice to have some help.

[Antalive[DM]]

AND the 3100 because that would be bad ass if you could work it man! :D

[SC/TGrandAm]

well for the 99+ grand am i know id definately love a turbo kit. Someone tried a turbo kit i think itsturbo.net or something and it fell thru and we never heard from them- happens alot. I know theres many guys that want a carbon fiber hood. Some would kill for one, so that would be awesome too. Clear tail lights! i know id buy some along with a thousand other people, if you can make those that would be a great saler. If you make some, make them exactly like the Hotwheels Concept Grand Am tails. If you want pics to see what those look like let me know! Also clear headlights, or a projector headlight.

The intake idea is a great one, any kind of preformance stuff would go over. I think more than half of the grand am community probably 75 percent goes more for looks than for speed. I myself go for looks, probably because i like looks and probably because i cant afford speed, because everybody jacks up the prices on grand am stuff. That could change if someone made affordable and a good product. So that might give you some insight.

Thanks for stepping up and wanting to produce things for us! not many companys produce things for grand ams we get overlooked all the time or pushed to the side when it comes to producing items. It gets aggrevating after awhile. Thanks again!

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by Antalive[DM]
AND the 3100 because that would be bad ass if you could work it man! :D

wouldnt a turbo kit for a 3100 be almost if not exactly the same as the one for the 3400.

as for the turbo that was being designed before i thought i read somewhere where it was due out by the end of may

[GTManiac]

seeing as this same thread got locked over on gagt.com, I figred I would chime in over here.

It's exciting to see the idea of a new market opening up for us. The fact that they're working with newer Bonnie's is promising cause they're already working with a Pontiac that has no aftermarket.

I think I speak for everyone when I say TURBO.

As mentioned above, prices in our aftermarket have been RIDICULOUS. People find we have a small market and figure they can dump crap on us with a HUGE price tag. Then they complain when we don't buy because of the price. We shop around on other cars' markets and when we see that headers for a Camaro are $500 and an aftermarket company for the GA is charging $700 for ours, we have to wonder why.

I like the idea of P&P-ed products, as the only other company offering that is ALSO a bit high priced ALTHOUGH they do great work. Ceramic shield on a set of heads sounds promising, I like that idea.

CLEAR TAILS! If you look around at 100 threads in ANY GA board you'll see at least 30 are about making/buying clear tails. There is currently one set readily availabe and they look sweet, but they come with a ship tag of $500, kinda steep BUT to that company's benefit they are bar none TOP quality, some of us just want something a bit cheaper. Also one word when it comes to clear tails: AMBER. Turn signals should be amber, it accents the tails and the Hot Wheels GA did that and got RAVE reviews and praise from almost 90% of us here.

As far as the smaller things such as brakes and the like that partsforyourcar.com sells: If you can sell them cheaper, you have my money already. Competition drives capitalism and the most competitive wins, simple as that.

I've sent ADTR (that's... a different name, but I see potential. lol) an email with my interests listed here and even signed up for their forums, I would suggest others do this so we can directly contact them and speak with them on a more personal level. They've just started up and much to my liking they update on the forums regularly unlike some manufacturer's who will say something and then duck out for a few months. The fact that they have a forum speaks highly of their desire to seek better customer service.

I'm excited about this new venture and would like thank ADTR for their interest. Hope to hear more from them in the future.

[Artic]

I :agree: all of the above sounds good :)

[Minime]

Originally posted by Antalive[DM]
AND the 3100 because that would be bad ass if you could work it man! :D

I would give anything for a turbo or supercharger kit for our 3100's that didn't cost 4000.00.

[LargeFish]

An affordable complete intake kit for the Quad4 engine would sell I'm sure. People fabricate their own from parts, but not everyone has the creativity or time to figure it out. There are a few things on the market, but they are all very overpriced and are warm-air intakes. Something that would go into the fender wall would be great.

[apple jacks48]

TURBO!

CLEAR TAILS!

PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS!

[DominionTuner]

Is street arsenal still in business? I haven't heard anything about them in a while.

[MJE95GAGT]

Yeah they are, they make products for other engines too. I dont know why anyone would buy from them tho

[SpecialFX]

Anything you can add for us would be greatly appreciated! We are used to performance parts being sparse and very expensive for our cars. If you offer something that everyone else sells, the extra competition will hopefully lower prices for us, and if you offer something no one else has, that's awsome too! More choices are always good! Keep us updated on what you do! I think you should have all kinds of Quad 4 stuff!! :angel1:

[91GrandAmKid]

I think it would be awesome to see some great products come out for the Grand Am! Aftermarket Company's always seem to look over the GA when makin products, but a GA can kick some major booty with some mods! I would love to see anything that you guys can make! Maybe even some things for the older GA's ( 85-91 )! And maybe even some parts for the 2.5L Tech 4 Engine! Thanx for your interest ADTR!! Us Ga guyz would love to see some aftermarket stuff come out for our cars!!

[ironray75]

If yall make a turbo for the 2.3 Quad 4, I am there.

[92CamaroRS]

damn guess there will never be an aftermarket for the 3300?

[ironray75]

Haha...Don't feel bad. The 2.3 Isn't going to get anything either.

[SpecialFX]

Originally posted by ironray75
If yall make a turbo for the 2.3 Quad 4, I am there.

I'll be there, too! But only to look at yours because there's no way I can afford it! :D

[ADTR]

Good response so far! This is good to hear. The reason I ask is because one of our project cars is a 95 Cutlass with the 3.1L in it. So we are going to be doing alot of R&D on it (including dyno time) and it ports over to the 3.4L as well. We are already collecting many spare parts as for the R&D and much breaking is expected. The turbo kit will be developed for the 3.1L and it will easily port over to the 3.4L, not a problem. And even for the Quad 4 we would be willing to make a turbo kit. Here are some ideas we have as far as performance.

1) Throttle Body Spacer - Approx $50-75 dollars would provide better throttle response and some better top end power.

2) Ported and Polished Upper/Lower Intake Manifold - Approx $75-100 total. Gasket matched and ready for a bigger Throttle Body as well.

3) Bigger Throttle Body - There are bigger throttle bodies but I believe there can be better designs and better prices. More around $125-150 would probably be about right.

4) Ported and Polished Heads - (Stage 1) Would be a nice cleaning up and definetly make a good 10-20WHP gain (Dyno proven). My thinking is approx $500 for this stage. (Stage 2) be a bigger runners but a good enough size and design for N/A vehics using GMPP springs/retainers, also milling the head to get more compression and putting a ceramic coating to avoid detonation. Approx $900 for this. (Stage 3) Meant for Forced Induction would have the Stage 2 mods but with roller rockers with roller tips, large runners to help cram as much air as possible into the cylinder. Approx $1000-1250 for this stage I would guess.

5) Camshafts designed for the 3100 and 3400 engines for N/A, Forced Induction and N20. Approx $300.

6) Ported Exhaust Manifolds. Cheaper alternative to headers probably be around $100 bucks.

7) Cold Air Intake Kits for Quad 4's, 3100's, 3400's for around $120-150 dollars. Pretty reasonable.

We can get alot of premade products cheaper like Powerslot and such (10 min from us), Turbonetics Turbos (10 min from us), and much more. We are located in Southern California so we have access to anything at lower prices since I go in and talk to the President's typically directly (it's the name). We are not like a ricer shop and overcharge for our products, we are more domestic and basically we make parts for our cars, if it works we offer it to everyone else, all of them are dyno proven and/or tested by us. I run Powerslot rotors on my Bonneville and I am willing to sell them because even after going through my ceramic pads in 20,000 miles and many 130mph - 0 stops, they still keep on going and I have never had pad fade even though the rotors were hot enough to make a piece of paper catch on fire. (Should have made a video).

But could offer alot of premade products for much cheaper than the PYFC store and such and save people money. We just like to futz with our cars, not make a million dollars. We also prefer realistic prices, I can make a ADTR Grand Am Store which would make it much easier to see what is available and 1 easy place to shop with the best prices.

GTManiac - Thanks for the compliment on the name, yeah Angry Duck Tofu Racing, check out one of our logos I have attached to this post. We will also be making cool car shirts, I will have examples soon but good stuff takes some time to make. Nothing cheesy, nothing I hate more than a cheesy car shirt. On the taillights, might be problems since would have to probably liscence from Hot Wheels to use those taillights. But I hear you, I will have to think about it, we are more performance shop than looks. And yes, I setup up the board in order to better communicate with our customers and give them updates on their shipments, newer products being developed and just a better communication channel altogether. But email works as well, I do my best to get back to you within 24 hours with as much information as I can provide.


Sorry for the long post but I hope that covers quite a few topics/items that need to be put out there. Keep the ideas coming for what products you want to see, I am keeping a list and we are already going to start R&D that will include the dyno proven gains.

Thanks for all your comments it helps alot!

Hector
Angry Duck Tofu Racing

http://www.angryducktofuracing.com/images/adtrerror.jpg

[Alero1]

Woohooo, more stuff! :D A few things I know of that peeps have been asking for, looking for and trying to get built are transmission upgrades, coilovers and 3400 turbos.

Another thing to consider is the market for these parts. Not only will the parts fit GA's (sans bodywork), but also the Chev Malibu and Olds Alero. In addition, parts for the 2.4L and 2.2L Ecotec engines will also crossover to the Cavalier and Sunfire. Including these other platforms there is a large number of persons to get the parts to. Listed on this page here (http://www.aleroupgrades.com/other_links.htm) there are 13 different forums discussing these platforms.

[92CamaroRS]

come on cant you make one thing for the 3300?

[MJE95GAGT]

WOW those are some cheap prices. Awesome :thumbup:

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by ADTR
Good response so far! This is good to hear. The reason I ask is because one of our project cars is a 95 Cutlass with the 3.1L in it. So we are going to be doing alot of R&D on it (including dyno time) and it ports over to the 3.4L as well. We are already collecting many spare parts as for the R&D and much breaking is expected. The turbo kit will be developed for the 3.1L and it will easily port over to the 3.4L, not a problem. And even for the Quad 4 we would be willing to make a turbo kit. Here are some ideas we have as far as performance.

1) Throttle Body Spacer - Approx $50-75 dollars would provide better throttle response and some better top end power.

2) Ported and Polished Upper/Lower Intake Manifold - Approx $75-100 total. Gasket matched and ready for a bigger Throttle Body as well.

3) Bigger Throttle Body - There are bigger throttle bodies but I believe there can be better designs and better prices. More around $125-150 would probably be about right.

4) Ported and Polished Heads - (Stage 1) Would be a nice cleaning up and definetly make a good 10-20WHP gain (Dyno proven). My thinking is approx $500 for this stage. (Stage 2) be a bigger runners but a good enough size and design for N/A vehics using GMPP springs/retainers, also milling the head to get more compression and putting a ceramic coating to avoid detonation. Approx $900 for this. (Stage 3) Meant for Forced Induction would have the Stage 2 mods but with roller rockers with roller tips, large runners to help cram as much air as possible into the cylinder. Approx $1000-1250 for this stage I would guess.

5) Camshafts designed for the 3100 and 3400 engines for N/A, Forced Induction and N20. Approx $300.

6) Ported Exhaust Manifolds. Cheaper alternative to headers probably be around $100 bucks.

7) Cold Air Intake Kits for Quad 4's, 3100's, 3400's for around $120-150 dollars. Pretty reasonable.

We can get alot of premade products cheaper like Powerslot and such (10 min from us), Turbonetics Turbos (10 min from us), and much more. We are located in Southern California so we have access to anything at lower prices since I go in and talk to the President's typically directly (it's the name). We are not like a ricer shop and overcharge for our products, we are more domestic and basically we make parts for our cars, if it works we offer it to everyone else, all of them are dyno proven and/or tested by us. I run Powerslot rotors on my Bonneville and I am willing to sell them because even after going through my ceramic pads in 20,000 miles and many 130mph - 0 stops, they still keep on going and I have never had pad fade even though the rotors were hot enough to make a piece of paper catch on fire. (Should have made a video).

But could offer alot of premade products for much cheaper than the PYFC store and such and save people money. We just like to futz with our cars, not make a million dollars. We also prefer realistic prices, I can make a ADTR Grand Am Store which would make it much easier to see what is available and 1 easy place to shop with the best prices.

GTManiac - Thanks for the compliment on the name, yeah Angry Duck Tofu Racing, check out one of our logos I have attached to this post. We will also be making cool car shirts, I will have examples soon but good stuff takes some time to make. Nothing cheesy, nothing I hate more than a cheesy car shirt. On the taillights, might be problems since would have to probably liscence from Hot Wheels to use those taillights. But I hear you, I will have to think about it, we are more performance shop than looks. And yes, I setup up the board in order to better communicate with our customers and give them updates on their shipments, newer products being developed and just a better communication channel altogether. But email works as well, I do my best to get back to you within 24 hours with as much information as I can provide.


Sorry for the long post but I hope that covers quite a few topics/items that need to be put out there. Keep the ideas coming for what products you want to see, I am keeping a list and we are already going to start R&D that will include the dyno proven gains.

Thanks for all your comments it helps alot!

Hector
Angry Duck Tofu Racing

http://www.angryducktofuracing.com/images/adtrerror.jpg

I LOVE that logo. I saw it on the webpage and thought that it would be a sweet one to slap on a t-shirt myself. LOL I even saved it on the comp and was just playing around with the design (graphic design major. lol ) just cause it was so unique and well colored.

As for the performance parts list: amazing. The pricing is more than generous and I have a feeling your company will be making a HUGE impact on our aftermarket when you start making these things.

I CAN NOT believe I forgot to mention the growing desire for a cam for our cars... it's been such a huge AND discouraging issue because no one will or wants to make one for us.

It's good to see all of these things are possible. Kepp up the good work.

[swordfencer]

Cool, another GA place. I would love to see another place that sells the Powerslot rotors for a cheaper price. The other nice thing is that you folks are located here on the West Coast. Much closer to home. Would ADTR be interested in coming up for our NorCal meet?

[ADTR]

GTManiac - Yeah, our logos are copyrighted so :D . But that logo will be put on shirt, just be a little patient. I plan on doing it in about a month. We will be having other car shirts (we are just going to do a big production run of about 5-6 different kinds of cars shirts.) We can also make one specifically for the Grand Am. We are making one for Bonneville's and WRX's, I don't have good enough rough draft yet to show you but I can later. Cams, not a problem, we are willing to R&D cams. You guys have an advantage since your heads are 23 degree canted valve which helps alot in the airflow department.

GAGuy - The 3300..... the forgotten motor. I went to the junkyard yesterday and saw a few of those :( but I do not know about the performance for it, demand is very limited, give me some examples of what you would like to see?

swordfencer - Where is the NorCal meet and when? Depends, problem is I am pretty busy and going to NorCal would be tough. I do occasionaly go to Oregon to do Bonneville meets up there but I am not sure about now. We are busy working on a few of our project cars plus need to do some R&D on some WRX Suspension pieces.

What else would you guys/gals like to see made? And what tranmission parts need to be made, what breaks alot? Probably the input shaft, chains, etc? The typical GM weak points? Keep adding the list of what you want made.

-Hector
Angry Duck Tofu Racing

[92CamaroRS]

well coem hell or high water i am determind to get that thing turbod and it woudl be so much easier if i could get a kit. take note that the 3300 is the same block as the 3800 so that might help. just tone it down. i dunno. i wouldnt mind some p&p stuff but the turbo is on the top of my list. maybe some tranny stuff but not of huge importance. wouldnt mind some headers too. or even a stange one or two head

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by ADTR
GTManiac - Yeah, our logos are copyrighted so :D . But that logo will be put on shirt, just be a little patient. I plan on doing it in about a month. We will be having other car shirts (we are just going to do a big production run of about 5-6 different kinds of cars shirts.) We can also make one specifically for the Grand Am. We are making one for Bonneville's and WRX's, I don't have good enough rough draft yet to show you but I can later. Cams, not a problem, we are willing to R&D cams. You guys have an advantage since your heads are 23 degree canted valve which helps alot in the airflow department.


I think you misunderstood me when I said the t-shirt thing. I wasn't saying I was putting them on, I was agreeing with you that it would be a great logo to put on your shirt. No thief here. lol. I hate when people steal design work.

[ADTR]

GTManic - That's cool, got it. ;)

GAGuy - What I can do is that next time I go to the junkyard I can tear down a 3300 and see what it looks like on the inside and see how close it is to the 3800. See I dont know if your car will have the same space requirements as a car with a 3800 in it. We could probably tweak it to fit your car but I don't know about the computer and such. We would require a running 3300 to test it on. Ported and Polished heads could be possible, basically custom work. We shall see.

I also am wanting to start doing chips as well so hopefully can provide better and more custom chips for the Grand Am's, Bonneville's, Grand Prix's, and more.

[DominionTuner]

Just curious, but are you port matching or doing complete port jobs? I just read your post where you said you will port and polish, but you also state you will port match.

[ADTR]

Purple Haze - It will be the whole deal. Ported and Polished heads with flow bench numbers and the heads/intakes will match. We go all the way.

[Travis]

that's not a bad deal for full port/polish and gasket matching. Lemme see some real #'s and I'll think about it :)
Would be fun to make the car faster, haha...

[MJE95GAGT]

How about a reprogrammed chip for the 94-95 3100s?

Also will we have to send the intake manifolds, exhaust manifold and heads in to have them p&p or will they be new manifolds and heads?

[Minime]

The prices sound great, The one thing i am really interested in is the turbo kit, any idea on pricing on one of them, i know it is hard to determine without making the kit, but just a guestimate

[ADTR]

MJE95GAGT - That could be very possible since we have to redo the chip on our 95 Cutlass project car. so it will port over well. :D They will be newly built heads. Are you talking about getting them from GM because that is $$$. Brand new from GM is insane. I can get enough cores from sources so you don't have to send in your stuff to get it done, I send you a ported intake/ heads or whatever you order, then when you send in back your stock one you would get the core charge money back.

Minime - We would try to aim for $3000 kit that has adjustability and potential for more power.

[MJE95GAGT]

AWESOME!!! yea I was talking about sending in my stock manifolds not buying them from GM. So let me get this straight.......NEW ported intake manifolds (upper and lower) ported exhaust manifold (both sides) and a bigger TB for only $350?!?!?! Where do I sign up?!?!?!?! Any approximate idea of when all this will be done?..........I think I just wet myself. Also any idea on how much the reprogrammed chip will be?

[ADTR]

A reprogrammed chip would not be for a while because we want to do the modifications first on our project Cutlass and once its insane enough to warrant having to reture the chip for more power, we will do it/offer it. Right now I am collecting info of what products people are interested in but I am also getting many cores to start doing R&D. They are wonderfully cheap for me so I am having a bash collecting them. :D

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by ADTR


GAGuy - What I can do is that next time I go to the junkyard I can tear down a 3300 and see what it looks like on the inside and see how close it is to the 3800. See I dont know if your car will have the same space requirements as a car with a 3800 in it. We could probably tweak it to fit your car but I don't know about the computer and such. We would require a running 3300 to test it on. Ported and Polished heads could be possible, basically custom work. We shall see.

I also am wanting to start doing chips as well so hopefully can provide better and more custom chips for the Grand Am's, Bonneville's, Grand Prix's, and more.


well i just thought of this if you can get a 3300 engine(running or not) and if you happend to have the exhaust headers for the turbo kit for a 3800 see if they fit. if they do then all that would need to be worried about is the computer. im really interested in this like i said before "come hell or high water ill get it turboed" and im not kidding with that. im planning on rebuilding the engine to run around 15 psi of intercooled boost but that will take custom stuff. but first i gotta start out with a turbo kit. i get the turbo on it and we are set cuz all that would needed would be the computer. thats what i love about turbos they are so versitile

[HighwayProwlerz]

Two words: HELL YEAH

[TA^Guy]

If you build a Throttle Body spacer for the 3400 I would get it for sure.
I pondered this idea years ago but with alot of 'know it alls' whated to shoot it down with out knowing what there are talking about I said hell with it. But then again this is a different place with more open minded people.
I would very interested so I can test my theroy that plenium size in a dry manifold does matter. :)

[martopg]

Hmmm... all this stuff sounds great, I gotta say :bigok: Now, this might be a little out of your league, but a body kit for the 96-98 GAs (esp. 4-doors) would rock! We need an alternative to that AED kit that costs more than my damn car. And I know that Andy's Auto Sport is supposedly making one soon, but I don't know when that'll be and am not to fond of their bulky styling. Thanks!!!

[ADTR]

Basically a Throttle Body spacer will net better throttle response and maybe a few HP up high. It will be cheap enough that will be worth to get it because it will enhance drivibility at all rpm's. It's a part of N/A tuning to do a throttle body spacer. Depends, different engines reponse differently to them. Only way to know is to try.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by ADTR
Depends, different engines reponse differently to them. Only way to know is to try. My point exactally. lol
Thank you very much. :)

[Chaotic Reality]

I'd love to get excited, cuz everything you're talking about is a modder's wet dream, but how soon do you guesstimate some of these things will become available ( I know they need to be worked on ) but there's no sense if getting excited until they are available, at least imo. :)

-Jon

[ADTR]

I have already started collecting extra intake manifolds and heads. So trying to move on this quickly seeing how spring is coming and alot of people want to mod their cars since they can go outside. (Not a problem here in SoCal). ;) Would like to offer it ASAP but a little R&D needs to be done of course. I wonder if we could extrude the upper intake manifold to get more flow out of it. Or even build a sheetmetal one for more flow.

[Chaotic Reality]

You should start small and get an CAI out...I was planning on getting one from APoC but they are a little pricey for what I can afford right now. Just a thought. :)

-Jon

[ADTR]

Hmm... CAI requires a car. Actually would be helpful if people sent pics of their engine compartment so I get an idea of what is involved. But we like more performance so we focus on the more hardcore stuff at a good price.

[MJE95GAGT]

hell yea!!! hardcore performance at a cheap price. I know its too early and I dont wanna jinx myself if it doesnt get done, but I love you man! Now the problem is finding a good summer internship when summer roles around, my future mod list just went thru the roof

[SikMindz]

Like I mentioned before- I'd be glad to help for any fitment issues as best I can. Shoot me an email and I'll see what I can do.

[99GrandAMSE]

... seems like there is a ton of interest on here :)

[GTManiac]

Originally posted by ADTR
I wonder if we could extrude the upper intake manifold to get more flow out of it.

I've been keeping my engine work on the d-lo, but I squeezed 4 more ponies out because of extrude hone. Worth the extra $50 bucks IMO.

[Antalive[DM]]

What would be nice is The auto and manual tranny reinforcements. Some of us need so transmissions that can handle a little more than what we already have. It might ok to do them to the 4T60E and the 4T45E. I'm not shure if those are the exact ones or not , but i am shure some one will correct me if i am wrong. And For GAguy- I am feeling sorry for those guys with 3300 they always seem to be forgoten so it would be nice for some good things for them too. :D

[Antalive[DM]]

OH and just read my signature it would be really nice if you guys could help me reach that because money wise and time wise i have only been ablt to get 270 hp at the wheels. So you know...... :P

[DominionTuner]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
If you build a Throttle Body spacer for the 3400 I would get it for sure.
I pondered this idea years ago but with alot of 'know it alls' whated to shoot it down with out knowing what there are talking about I said hell with it. But then again this is a different place with more open minded people.
I would very interested so I can test my theroy that plenium size in a dry manifold does matter. :)


Funny you mention that, I have just recently been trying to figure out how to make one for my GA to see if it will make a difference.

[Marksman]

Just pump out stuff for the 3100, and I'm in! Everything sounds good so far. I would really like to see a CAI, headers, and a turbo kit for the 3100.

-Marksman:agree:

[ADTR]

Alright, everything sounds great. I have had a great response so far. Here are a few vidz of our project Cutlass.

With open headers.....

Cutlass Rev 1 (http://www.angryducktofuracing.com/videos/shitbuxrev1.avi)
Cutlass Rev 2 (http://www.angryducktofuracing.com/videos/shitbuxrev2.avi)

So..... if we had open headers, you can gues what we did, :brows: , and here it is passing by....

Cutlass Passby (http://www.angryducktofuracing.com/videos/shitbuxpass1.avi)

Enjoy, we are all about performance. :D

[swordfencer]

Sorry I took so long to get back to you. We are planning to have our meet hopefully May 24th. Location is still being worked on, but most likely in Sacramento.

[SmokinGT00]

:mouthwate mmmm need more mods....love what i'm hearing!! i'd love an apoc intake, but they're pricey, would definitely buy from you if its a bit cheaper.

[Luniz]

manufacture performance parts and I will buy!
Powerslot cheaper, oh hell yea. I don't think you would be dissapointed if you started working on parts for the GA.

[ADTR]

Sounds good guys, glad you like the vidz. :D

[Yeahdoug]

CF hood. Replica of the stock one. No scoops or nothing. Being a 2.4L I already can get all those parts for my engine but nobody makes or is trying to make decently price CF hoods. Like 600-700.

[mjhurley1]

Originally posted by Antalive[DM]
What would be nice is The auto and manual tranny reinforcements.

Definatley need some tranny fortification.

[Antalive[DM]]

Ya if money is a factor you'll get it all back because you will sell everything. :D :cool: :cool:

[DKOnLine]

Hey my Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera sounded like that when the exhaust fell off. lol

[gagt2k3]

Yes please make stuff for the 3400 Grand Am GTs!!!!!! You wont be disapointed! You should look into making our SC/T hood functional, that would sell thousands! I cant wait til GM or whoever makes it!

[Artic]

Yes we need some more stuff for the 3400 :)

[HighwayProwlerz]

PLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEE!!!!! :begs: Need..... more.... power....

[ADTR]

We have started development, now all we need is some time and testing. :D

[91GrandAmKid]

Soundz like you guyz are gonna pump out some awesome products! Any chance you could make anything for the 2.5L Tech 4? Just wonderin..... If not it's cool, you guyz are still going to sell TONS of stuff to all the 3100 and 3400 guyz!!

:headbang:

[ADTR]

Originally posted by 91GrandAmKid
Soundz like you guyz are gonna pump out some awesome products! Any chance you could make anything for the 2.5L Tech 4? Just wonderin..... If not it's cool, you guyz are still going to sell TONS of stuff to all the 3100 and 3400 guyz!!

:headbang:


Anything is possible. What are you guys interested in and what parts. What cars were they put in so I can get a better idea of R&D and the possiblites of it.

[GTManiac]

wow did this ever DIE OUT. So what's up with ADTR? anything going on in the last month or so? They sort of fell off of the face of the earth. Hope they're still interested in making stuff, it'd be kewl. Also figured I would get this thread back up top and get some more interest stirred. :D

[yonkman]

:agree: Holy mother of god yes, anything new is very good:agree:

[Red99GAGT]

so is this guy for real or just another supplier pulling our leg?
if he is for real it is about time. please be for real!!!

[ADTR]

No we are for real. We have just been busy for the last month trying to keep up with demand for our products, it's been crazy. We have been working long hours nearly every day just to keep up with demand. But we are still here but you guys have to bear with us since our time is limited.

For heads we have been working on the first stage meant for N/A applications. This is the mild port and then a second stage with much bigger and better options will be working on soon. Then a third version will be meant for Forced Induction Applications.

Seems people are interested in cams alot. We have slowly been working on a few different version (in the computer) and so far have one meant more with N/A that work well with the heads we are porting. Then another one that will be meant for forced induction.

After getting a few suggestions, some people mentioned that the SLP exhaust is still stock size of 2.25" rather than 2.5" which would help out later when you have more modifications. So later probably towards summer we can get a 99GT here in SoCal to come out and we can make a 2.5" manderal bent exhaust for around the same price as the SLP's. We also plan on carrying SLP sometime in the near future.

We are still here, and no we didn't drop off the face of the earth. ;)

Angry Duck Tofu Racing Team
www.angryducktofuracing.com

[MJE95GAGT]

I believe SLP is 2.5" and Borla is the one thats 2.25" BTW I am VERY interested in a NA cam as long as its not a regrind :D

[ADTR]

No, we would never use regrinds. That's always asking for trouble. They would be new billet blanks. For example only reason 4.6L mustangs do regrinds usually because it is alot easier and making brand new cams for them is expensive. But since we only have one and its available, no problems.

[MJE95GAGT]

Thats good to hear :) Any clue how much it will be yet? Also do you have an idea how much you will be selling the S&S headers for?

[ADTR]

I was thinking for around $300 shipped to your door in the lower 48 states. Same would go for the 3.8L headers as well. Coated would be around $450 shipped to your door, I have to call and check availablity and get some in stock from them. Sound fair?

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by ADTR
No, we would never use regrinds. That's always asking for trouble. They would be new billet blanks. For example only reason 4.6L mustangs do regrinds usually because it is alot easier and making brand new cams for them is expensive. But since we only have one and its available, no problems.

I agree, everytime I hear some talking about 'regrind' cams I cringe and wonder what people are thinking.

[Red99GAGT]

Originally posted by ADTR
I was thinking for around $300 shipped to your door in the lower 48 states. Same would go for the 3.8L headers as well. Coated would be around $450 shipped to your door, I have to call and check availablity and get some in stock from them. Sound fair?

Sound fair??? I'll write the check out now! You guys are long over due!!! Finally an aftermarket company that will devote some time/R&D/$$ into our cars. If I lived in cali I would donate my car for testing any time.

[ADTR]

We know what the 60 degreee V6's can do since he are just messing around with our 95 Cutlass. So what we do is whatever we do to our test cars and works we just offer to everyone else. We will try the S&S headers on our 95 Cutlass in due time and dyno them as well.

[MJE95GAGT]

Originally posted by ADTR
I was thinking for around $300 shipped to your door in the lower 48 states. Same would go for the 3.8L headers as well. Coated would be around $450 shipped to your door, I have to call and check availablity and get some in stock from them. Sound fair?

:agree: wheres my checkbook too? Im gonna NEED a cam with the mods lined up this summer and thats a decent price for the headers, does this mean uncoated will be $300? Any guess when the cam will be ready?

[ADTR]

Cam will be more towards summer most likely. But I can't say for sure since we are typically busy so time is limited for R&D at the moment.

[LargeFish]

3.8 headers? Any chance an F-body version might be in the works?

[ADTR]

We don't deal with F-Body's and S&S doesnt not either.

[GTManiac]

well this is good to see. Glad you guys are still around. Can't wait to see more.

[HondaCivicsSuck]

Man, everything looks and sounds good cant wait to see some aftermarket stuff for the 3400&3100 :D


Joe

[Gator13]

i want to see a good cai for cheaper than the apoc ones...please

[MJE95GAGT]

Actually APOCs prices are reasonable considering some imports have to pay $350 for a CAI from AEM

[HondaHater]

I would love a turbo, heads, catback system, EUROTAIL LIGHTS, and whatever else you'd have in mind for the 92-95 GAs!! It's so hard to find anything for a 3100 V6. Well at least for a price that's worth the little power you get out of the part.

[doomsday1974]

If you want to get a aftermarket going, you need to get into the 2.5 liter "tech 4" mods, like other members have mentioned. I know where i can get a custom turbo, but there is no where to get a turbo exhaust header. Come on give us "tech 4" owners some new toys. we cant let the import tuners have all the fun.

[ADTR]

We would have to have a car to test on. But right now we already have enough on our plate. But it is a possiblity.

[graffx83]

carbon fiber/fiberglass hood!!!!!

I would say yes to most of the products you listed. Especially the carbon fiber hood, I think that would kick A$$!

[Sorry_Officer]

Originally posted by graffx83
carbon fiber/fiberglass hood!!!!!

I would say yes to most of the products you listed. Especially the carbon fiber hood, I think that would kick A$$!

I already own a mold for a FULL carbon fiber hood for 99' and up GA's. The first hood is almost 95% done and I WILL have it on next week. These hoods will be OEM style and only available through me. I am marking them up $25 each so I can recoup my cost of the mold.

This hood will have stock latch points........aircraft grade brushed aluminum hardware, it will be a FULL carbon fiber hood, and it will be finished top and underside. That means the underside of the hood will look just as good as the top side, which is very rare among CF hoods. 99% of CF hoods have fiberglass filler and black resin underside that looks like shit when you open up the hood.

If interested email me at klentz13@yahoo.com

I will be holding a group by in late April for these hoods......

[MJE95GAGT]

hey Kyle are you gonna make any for pre-99 GAs too in the future?

[Sorry_Officer]

Wasn't really in this to make money but if enough people are interested I could look into getting one made.........

I would probably need about 3 people interested with about $1000.00 each. These hoods are top of the line, and to tell you the truth you will have to shell out the big bucks to get one.

[voyager]

3x00 turbo kits! make them fit berettas too!! agressive 3x00 cams!!

[SpecialFX]

wow, talk about back from the dead... not too often do you see two posts in a row that are over a year apart!

[HighwayProwlerz]

Originally posted by apple jacks48
TURBO!

CLEAR TAILS!

PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS!

DITTO! I'd buy a turbo for my 3400.

[HighwayProwlerz]

Depending on your location I volunteer my car for a guinea pig! :)

[Big Joe]

Originally posted by SpecialFX
wow, talk about back from the dead... not too often do you see two posts in a row that are over a year apart!


yea for real u must have been fishing for a while to find this one

[SpecialFX]

*I* didn't fish. The post before I said that did all the fishing.

[blckgrndam99]

i stopped reading but CLEAR CORNER HEADLIGHTs

[Big Joe]

yea i no but i was agreeing with your post sorry if i didnt make that clear

[vdgmcool]

Wow this is an old post. I went to the ADTR website and it said site is being revamped but i'm really interested in a CAI for the 3100:)

[Trunks]

I am interested in anything for the 2.3, or the 92-95 GA's.

[D.L.P.J.]

I will definitely keep your company on my radar screen. "The Black Beauty" is still going through a planned and phased mod metamorphasis, so lower prices would help speed it up.
I plan on keeping her as long as she will have me!
:D

[02GARacer]

WOW this post is over a year old? WTF< lol

[HondaCivicsSuck]

there is no more ADTR !!! i emailed them

[Big Joe]

dam wonder what happened to them

[HondaCivicsSuck]

all talk nothing bought

[SpecialFX]

Originally posted by HondaCivicsSuck
all talk nothing bought

A company that says they are going to make parts for us and then doesn't? I can't beleive it! [/sarcasm]

[HighwayProwlerz]

Yeah, no big surprise.

[D.L.P.J.]

Just in case you guys didn't know, my last post on this topic was a sarcastic one!!

[Grandam02chick]

it would be sweet if u could make more performance parts for the 2.2 ecotec motor.

[azeniskid]

2.2 ecotec motor

www.rksport.com
www.rsmracing.com
www.mantapart.com
there are others but i'm assuming you'll be stuck in bolt ons grandam02chick...

so that's just a start..

[cyrrus]

and Induction dynamics should have a CAi in the next week for the 2.2 eco.

[vdgmcool]

I was really wanting a CAI for my 3100 Grand AM too:mad:

[cyrrus]

try emailing the guy's at APoC. See what they can do for you. I emailed them about on for the 2.4 and they said that they can make one. Hey it never hurts to ask. I just decided to go with Induction cause there in Canada.

[SikMindz]

Originally posted by vdgmcool
I was really wanting a CAI for my 3100 Grand AM too:mad:

Also, www.doctorspeed.com

[HondaCivicsSuck]

Originally posted by SikMindz
Also, www.doctorspeed.com

he doesnt make a CAI for a 94-98. But there is someone on here that does make one for the older GA's

[vdgmcool]

Originally posted by HondaCivicsSuck
he doesnt make a CAI for a 94-98. But there is someone on here that does make one for the older GA's


http://www.tranzgenic.com/www/products.php#

Tranzgenic makes a CAI for 94-98 grand am models with or without MAF

[HondaCivicsSuck]

/\ cool!

[yonkman]

anything for the 3100 would be wonderfull

[vdgmcool]

Originally posted by HondaCivicsSuck
/\ cool!


Here are some pics of the intakes and some dyno results

http://www.tranzgenic.com/intakes/3100

[NaturalKonc3pt]

It would be awesome to see pretty much any parts for the 3100!!! Also Coilovers would be AMAZING.

[Big Joe]

this thread just wont die

[TheLamonizer]

:stupid: :ghost:

[Big Joe]

Originally posted by TheLamonizer
:stupid: :ghost:

Haha im not stupid :lol:

[SPECIALGAGT]

I'm in for the reduced-calorie duck-flavored tofu served on carbon-fiber dishes.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Big Joe5313
this thread just wont die
So true. And this was stated eight and half months ago. :lol:

[Trevlya006]

ha eight and a half?

2/18/03!!!!

thats almost 2 yars ago

[MikeNice]

He's saying the quote where someone said "This thread won't die" was made 8 1/2 months ago, not the thread itself.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Wow, some of you guys must feel old if you know what this company is rambling about, lol.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by MikeNice
He's saying the quote where someone said "This thread won't die" was made 8 1/2 months ago, not the thread itself.
Thank you. Lately it seems no one pays attention around here anymore.

[HondaCivicsSuck]

someone needs to close this one :P

man i feel old.. i remember this thread from back in the day :roll2:

[sunrunner_pei]

Closeing it off once and for all.