2 nos or not 2 nos

[twisted]

Ok guys i have a 2002 GaGt, the car halls ass but i want more power. i race the car a little bit beat a civic and a acura rxs. but my buddy with a ls1 beat me bad like i expected lol. But i was told i can do tons of mods to speed i up. I was thinking about a zex or nos dry smart kit it says it adds 55 65 and 75 hp.
Or i could get pnp upper and lower intae manafolds and a tb.
either way im looking at about $600
what would be the best way to go for the most hp gains.
i want to beat the ls1 lool hehe

[Kdawg207]

Originally posted by twisted

i want to beat the ls1 lool hehe

gonna take more than 600 bucks to that

[1992grandam]

ya it is...stock ls1 run what low 14s/high 13s? your not gonna hit that with jus a nitrous kit or pnp.......your gonna have to drop a couple grand to be bale to hang with that ls1

[twisted]

what would be the best way to gothen maybe a supercharger?

[FORTEEN3GT]

Originally posted by 1992grandam
ya it is...stock ls1 run what low 14s/high 13s? your not gonna hit that with jus a nitrous kit or pnp.......your gonna have to drop a couple grand to be bale to hang with that ls1

not entirely true!
i beat ls1's from 0-60 all the time when i was sprayin...but when they hit the top of 2nd...they are gone. no replacement for displacement.

between red lights i used to win all the time!

[1992grandam]

ya but im sure you have other stuff done to your car and not JUST nitrous....by lookin at your 1/4 miles time im guessin you have a good sum of money dropped into your GA

[VanishingImage]

If you want to beat an LS1,drop more then 600 bucks.....Thats a dream that the average car modder dreams of doing,let alone the other powerful cars.I have an mpeg of a Talon with twin turbo,nitrous,everything thats boost.They pull up next to a LS1,yea they get it off the light,BUT after 2nd or 3rd,they are eating its burned rubber.There will always be a car out there faster then you,the thing to do it have a goal set and just do things to get to it.For me I know I can't beat Corvette's,Viper's,Lambo's,Ferrari's,ec....But I set my goals to beat cars that are in the same rank or a rank higher,cars that are in range or just a step up.You'll still be fast with the nitrous,thats something I want but with parents and only have enough cars for 3 people and insurance,theres no way I could have that in my car,id be too tempted to use it.

But more on topic.......Just set some performance mods that you wanna do and do them,they will all help you get up there but just don't set your "speed" dreams to high,there will always be a car faster then you and you might not always be able to beat them.

[95-GT]

Originally posted by 1992grandam
ya it is...stock ls1 run what low 14s/high 13s? your not gonna hit that with jus a nitrous kit or pnp.......your gonna have to drop a couple grand to be bale to hang with that ls1

My friends 2001 WS6 with SLP loudmouth Catback - 13.2 @101 MPH

My friends bone stock 2002 SS - 12.9 @ 104 MPH

Your going to have to do A LOT!!!!, yes, probley over $10,000 to beat a stock LS1 with a good driver. I would start off with a built motor, then a turbo kit, then upgrade the suspension and transmission.

[litdevil316]

i think when i'm done i should be able to beat a ls1 f-body. rebuilt motor with the works and s/c from RSM. that is if i can ever get past that damn gov'ner. and a stock 2002 SS ran a 12.9? thats Z06 LS6 range

[95-GT]

Z06 LS6 range is 12.4-12.6, with a good driver, track and conditions. Both of those cars have the Hurst 6-speed. My other friends old 2000 WS6 with a auto ran a 13.3 best all day long.

[Pte Socks]

Hehehe and all we are capable of is lousy 16's. But back to the discussion. Set a goal and stick to it. You dont necessarily have to be the fastest car in the coutry, because likely, your not going to do it. Instead, settle for something less. Like me. Im saying screw forced induction, I wanna see what this baby can do n/a. You want a challenge that is in your reach? Try making a n/a GA going into the 15's or 14's if you got the cash ( or like me, make a belief that you can do an all motor 200+ hp ga or a 13s n/a ga tuned, Im stupid enough to believe that tuned, this engine can pump out close to 300 WHP:)). Just realise that the faster you want, the much MUCH more your going to have to spend to get it there.

[95-GT]

Tuned, it could ;)

BUT....not yet.

[VanishingImage]

my goal was 300hp total,but finally realized how much $$$ it would take.Id be happy with a turbo and intercooled setup with maybe some spray but prolly not.Id rather have forced air power.250hp is a reasonable goal most of us can reach with some time and saving money.A S/C would be my main goal,theres a lot of turbo kits(theres actually a few for the 2.4 TC now a days) are almost just as much as the S/C 's now,so id rather go with the SC,more power produced.Easy 100hp should be expected right,from a SC?

[Pte Socks]

at 8 psi, the rsm should give you 75 hp

[MagusXIII]

If you even want to have a chance at an LS1, you had better consider running 150 shot at the least! And on your stock engine, you will be lucky if you get a few seconds before your engine goes bye bye. To run 150 shot, you WILL need to do internal engine mods and really beef up your fuel system. DO NOT do it in a stock motor.

Also, your supercharger idea still does not make the power. You will probably need to get a bare minimum of 125HP in boost or better yet, 150HP from ANY power adder.

[95-GT]

My buddy, who I believe ran a 150 shot, ran a 13.92 @ 96.52 MPH on a otherwise, stock 3400.

[GTLinden]

Are there turbo's for the 96 3100's....i cant even find a CAI let alone a turbo. ????

[95-GT]

I am in the process of turbocharging my 3400 in my 95. Its basiclly the same thing, only differance is the tuning. The 3100 and 3400 are shared platform motors, so anything you see for the 3400 will work with the 3100. Unless its car specific (ie, 99+ SLP Grand Am Exhaust for the 3400)

[litdevil316]

RSM says you'l get 85HP just from the sc kit for the 2.4L. then add their p/p heands, cams, sligght over bore motor (0.020), ehat ever exhaust you can work in, and some internals like rods and crank and all. all and all you should be able to add 150hp to the 2.4L, IF you got the cash to do all that. i'l let you know once i'm back state side from Iraq. instead of buying a new car like every one else i know out here, i'm fixing my 97gase up with the money. and if i deside to stay in the army (re-enlist) thats 6-10k more cash. all taxe free. so i'l let ya know how the LS1 killer turnes out. lol

[MagusXIII]

Originally posted by 95-GT
My buddy, who I believe ran a 150 shot, ran a 13.92 @ 96.52 MPH on a otherwise, stock 3400.
Assuming it was a 150shot, those times seem a bit slow. I mean, that is 325hp right there. Did your buddy have excessive wheelspin and/or was he at high altitude? I would be expecting LOW 13s and low 100 mph speeds with a 150 shot on a 3400.

[95-GT]

It may have been a 125 shot. It was PACE [ECAP] over at GAGT.com

[30thAnnGAGT]

Pace Ran a 125 shot when he hit 13's. His manifold gaskets were taking a crap too. He got the perfect run on the perfect day.

I ran nitrous in a GA for 2 years. between a 75-100 shot.

it's the biggest waste of money on the planet in my opinion