RSM Strut Tower Brace Group Buy?!

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by Dragonwings
I have a 2003, and just put my bars in today. All I can say is WOW to the difference. I really didn't think the difference would be that noticable.. It's an amazing difference for me. Money well spent. The quality of the materials seems to be top notch!

I was just wondering? Do you have a factory air box or an aftermarket intake?

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by mthegodfather
I still dont have my Bars.

Soon...very soon... :)

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Soon...very soon...

HAHAHAHAHA.........how many times have we heard that?

[Ishan]

dragonwing, I'm a little confused on why you bother replacing the bolt with the one rsm sent? whats the differece?

[Dragonwings]

Originally posted by Ishan
dragonwing, I'm a little confused on why you bother replacing the bolt with the one rsm sent? whats the differece?

I don't know the difference. It was written in their instructions to do so. However, I imagine the shear forces on the factory bolt may be higher than it can handle so RSM has supplied one that can handle it. This is mere speculation though. Better safe than sorry. I thought the same thing initially, "Why bother?" but then I thought, if RSM took the time to supply a replacement bolt and indicated in their instructions to replace it, there must be a good reason. It only adds about 20 min of extra install time (feeling for the bolts and what not).


Origianlly posted by nice96gt
I was just wondering? Do you have a factory air box or an aftermarket intake?

I have a factory airbox with a K&N filter installed. I noticed a real difference in throttle response when I switched to the K&N and the sound got a tad throatier. The main reason I haven't upgraded to a CAI is the one I would buy (Dr. Speed CAI) is 189 bucks. [I wouldn't have made the STB purchase if the group buy was any less than a 20% discount, thanks again Babalouie!]

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by Dragonwings
I have a factory airbox with a K&N filter installed. I noticed a real difference in throttle response when I switched to the K&N and the sound got a tad throatier. The main reason I haven't upgraded to a CAI is the one I would buy (Dr. Speed CAI) is 189 bucks.

Yeah, I would just make your own, save yourself $130. All you would need would be an intake with a straight piece with a 90? on the end and another short straight piece. It would be basically the same to make one for the 3400 as it is for the 3100 since they are mostly the same. I made mine for $50 US, $150+ is just way too much. And mine performs/looks just like everyone else who paid $150+ :D.

The main reason I asked you about the stock airbox is that I heard a rumour that the STB may not fit with a factory intake. Just wondering. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :)

[ironian]

I also didn't replace the factory bolt with the RSM bolt. I hope it doesn't cause any trouble down the road. I thought maybe the RSM bolt was there for older cars where the factory bolt might not have been long enough.

[Ishan]

Thats what i was thinking as well, maybe the factory bolt can't handle the extra force.. i figure.. it it can't, it'll break/bend, and then i'll put the rsm one in.

and dragonwing, where the hell did you get instructions? I didn't receive any, and couldn't find it on their site. :)

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by Dragonwings
I don't know the difference. It was written in their instructions to do so. However, I imagine the shear forces on the factory bolt may be higher than it can handle so RSM has supplied one that can handle it. This is mere speculation though. Better safe than sorry. I thought the same thing initially, "Why bother?" but then I thought, if RSM took the time to supply a replacement bolt and indicated in their instructions to replace it, there must be a good reason. It only adds about 20 min of extra install time (feeling for the bolts and what not).

I agree. I too questioned the extra bolt, but replaced them anyways. It really wasn't that hard to do. No cuts on my hands, just some red marks. lol Ok, and I lost one nut down between the seat and the rear sheet metal. :doh:

[Dragonwings]

Originally posted by Ishan
it it can't, it'll break/bend, and then i'll put the rsm one in.

and dragonwing, where the hell did you get instructions? I didn't receive any, and couldn't find it on their site. :)

I'm very much into "prevention". Keep in mind, if that one bolt breaks, the other one is going to break too. Then you have to replace both, and that other one seems much more difficult to get to. AND, you have no idea where you'll be when they both break. Imagine you've won a dream date with your favorite supermodel, and you're on your way to the airport to catch a flight there.... and then, SNAP! SNAP! ... and you're left cursing and supermodelless, and it was all your fault :D.

As far as instructions, there was an envelope with my invoice in it. The envelope also contained a single page with some instructions on it for the rear bar. It didn't look like an instruction page at all, and you could have mistaked it for just some hand out. And in all honesty the instructions were very basic [ 1) Lift rear of car. 2) Remove bolt farthest to the rear, replace with one supplied 3) Attached mounting plates loosely, you'll need to adjuest 4) straight edge of plate should face rear of car. 5) Tighten all bolts for proper installation] That was almost literally what the instructions were.


LOL Shawn lost a nut ... I too just ended up with red and black hands, no cuts. I however still had my nuts.

[Dragonwings]

Originally posted by nice96gt
Yeah, I would just make your own, save yourself $130. All you would need would be an intake with a straight piece with a 90? on the end and another short straight piece. I made mine for $50 US, $150+ is just way too much.

The main reason I asked you about the stock airbox is that I heard a rumour that the STB may not fit with a factory intake. Just wondering. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :)

If I ever do that mod, I'll want to run the filter down into the tire well to actually have a CAI instead of a WAI, and that's beyond my ability to do well enough for my liking. Thanks for the FYI though!

Also, the STB isn't even really close to the airbox at all on the 2003 3400 engine. Wonder how that rumor got started. The front bar is a piece of cake to put on. The only thing I see as being a problem is if you had an aftermarket alternator. The bar goes over the stock alternator really close.

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by Dragonwings
LOL Shawn lost a nut ... I too just ended up with red and black hands, no cuts. I however still had my nuts.

:rofl: oh that was too funny...

[urweak]

anyone have a picture of the rear bar installed on a 92-98?

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by urweak
anyone have a picture of the rear bar installed on a 92-98?

JMILLS does. I just haven't taken any pics yet... pics of rear STB (http://kwiktech.myip.org/stb/stbrear.htm)

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Wow, looky here. It's wed. and still they are not complete. And seeing as he said something about them being done on monday. Wow, just wow. But I guess I can just deal with it.
This is going to be the last thing I EVER buy from this company, so I guess I can put up with it.

[mthegodfather]

I still dont have my bars yet.

[Big Joe]

<------------Barless Joe!

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Here are my beautiful bars. I have pictures of them below.

Pic 1 (http://img78.exs.cx/img78/3858/MyBabies4.jpg)

Pic 2 (http://img78.exs.cx/img78/1561/MyBabies2.jpg)

Pic 3 (http://img78.exs.cx/img78/4951/MyBabies3.jpg)

Oh wait....these aren't real....i had to make them in 3d studio max......why you may ask?

I'll tell you why.....

BECAUSE RSM SUCKS!

Heres a nice background picture for your desktop RSM. You need to put it on every one of your computers!

RSM Dekstop (http://img80.exs.cx/img80/1561/MyBabies2.jpg)

[mthegodfather]

HEHE that was funny.

[Big Joe]

still have no bars :(

[nice96gt]

It's the weekend. If they mailed them you should get them during the week. :)

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Has nothing to do with it boy. It's the fact that dip Craig said he was going to have a college student finish them on monday. Which in other words mean they are not any priority to them. They get them done with they get them done, and they dont give a SH%T about when. They still made money of those freaking bars, and they are all saying "you got a great discount". Yeah, thats great and all, but why the hell does that mean we have to wait forever to get them. It's like they just dont care about it or something.
I think its just total BS. And just like i said in the other thread, my lawyer is calling them tommorow. I'll never deal with this half @$$ company again.

[nice96gt]

Yeah, I totally understand man. I don't know why it's taken this long...It is getting to be a bit too much. I know they were at SEMA all last week so no one was at the shop, but they should have been done by now. Hopefully everyone will get their bars this week.

[nice96gt]

btw, what other thread was that? I must have missed it.

EDIT: nm, I just did a search and found it...

[nice96gt]

btw, what other thread was that? I must have missed it.

[mthegodfather]

I havent got mine yet. Still waiting.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Say it together..... THIS COMPANY SUCKS!

[mthegodfather]

I must agree.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Haha! Finally a follower! lol.

[mthegodfather]

Yeah I doubt I will ever buy anything from them again.

[Big Joe]

ahhhh i just want my one bar that i paid for a few mounths ago

[Dragonwings]

That really sucks for you guys. Good luck, and I feel your pain. I would have probably canceled my order by now, even knowing how much I love them.


Good luck, and i hope you get them soon. Not much concilation, but you'll love them if you ever get them.

[mthegodfather]

I have a 1998 I wonder why I havent gotten mine yet. Most of the people that say they dont have them have the 1992-1995.

[nice96gt]

I know people have called Craig and all, but call him again and remind him. That's all I can suggest.

[TO2FST]

I'm gonna post the same thing here as what I said in the Ask RSM Forum:

Just recieved an email from RSM. The bars will be ready to go out on Wednesday so I'm going into the shop on my own time after I'm done work on Wednesday so these bars can go out. I'll also be sending out tracking numbers to those who provided RSM with one when they are shipped.

[TO2FST]

Update: I went to RSM during my lunch break and got the bars shipped. You will be recieving a tracking number by 6pm. If you do not recieve a tracking number by that time please PM me with your full name and I will get the tracking info to you tomorrow.

[30thAnnGAGT]

^ Frank. That is why you are THE MAN!

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by TO2FST
Update: I went to RSM during my lunch break and got the bars shipped. You will be recieving a tracking number by 6pm. If you do not recieve a tracking number by that time please PM me with your full name and I will get the tracking info to you tomorrow.

Now that's going the extra mile!!!! :bigok: :bow:

[nice96gt]

Good work Frank! BTW...got any extra rice crispy squares? :lol:

[TO2FST]

haha naw I'm tryin to cut those out of the daily routine haha

[nice96gt]

haha

[sunrunner_pei]

Mmmmmmm.... Rice Crispy Squares. :gravey:

[nice96gt]

Frank has a stash, he just doesn't tell anyone about them. :D

[99GrandAMSE]

Nice!! :)

[Big Joe]

I got my email. Makes me feel better, thanks man

[ironian]

Now that most of us have our STB's, and winter is around the corner. Are these STB's going to help us in the snow or are they going to cause our cars to slide all over the place? Just a thought.

[nice96gt]

The strut bars won't make your car worse in the snow, but they will train you into knowing you can take corners easier and at higher speeds than before. As long as you realize there is snow and ice on the ground and that the bars won't help your car STICK to the ground any more than it did before, you will be fine. The bars don't make you invincible, they just improve handling on dry road, unfortunately they won't do a damn thing in the snow. :D

[jaysgrand94]

Am i to late? to buy sound like it

[nice96gt]

Yeah man, almost 2 months. There is a guy selling his bars though that he got through the group buy. http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34268 check it out.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Got my bars today, installed them both in 15 minutes. Thanks for going the extra mile Frank.

[TO2FST]

Not a problem, I just wanted to make sure as soon as they were done that they went out so they could be enjoyed.

[Big Joe]

yeah got mine today there were in front of my door when i got home from work. Ill but the on this weekend......

[mthegodfather]

I got mine today. After over 4 months I finaaly got them.

[Babalouie]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to take this time to thank all of you guys who participated in this group buy. I did the best that I could to help get you guys the price and quality. Sure I've made some mistakes and learned from them, but if it wasn't for the help of you guys, I would have not realized any of my mistakes and I am able to create a better system for future group buys. I aplologize for any of the inconviences (I know what they are) and I can assure that future buys will go a lot more smoothly as I have new rules and regualtions for future buys. Thanks again,. and I hope everyone enjoys their bars. Feel free to pm me if there are any concernes, or questions and even suggestions that you may have.

Cheers!!
Bobby

[Dragonwings]

Originally posted by Babalouie
Hey everyone, I just wanted to take this time to thank all of you guys who participated in this group buy. I did the best that I could to help get you guys the price and quality. Sure I've made some mistakes and learned from them, but if it wasn't for the help of you guys, I would have not realized any of my mistakes and I am able to create a better system for future group buys. I aplologize for any of the inconviences (I know what they are) and I can assure that future buys will go a lot more smoothly as I have new rules and regualtions for future buys. Thanks again,. and I hope everyone enjoys their bars. Feel free to pm me if there are any concernes, or questions and even suggestions that you may have.

Cheers!!
Bobby

I applaud your post. :clap:

[mthegodfather]

Yes thanks for putting this group buy together.

[Big Joe]

:agree:

[nice96gt]

Thanks Bobby!

...So when is the next one? :D

[luked]

Did someone say next one? Put me on the list....

New group buy:
1. LukeD (Luke) --- 1 Rear STB
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[nice96gt]

lol...I meant next group buy, not necessarily for strut bars...lol

[Big Joe]

Originally posted by luked
Did someone say next one? Put me on the list....

New group buy:
1. LukeD (Luke) --- 1 Rear STB
2.
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8.
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dam got a little too excited :lol:

[nice96gt]

haha, if there were more people like this...there could be a different group buy every week! :lol:

[Big Joe]

you can put my name down lol

[luked]

Originally posted by Big Joe5313
you can put my name down lol

Front, rear, or both?

[nice96gt]

Originally posted by luked
Front, rear, or both?

DUDE! The group buy is officially over. Until someone starts another you missed it. Send a message to Babalouie if you are interested in another group buy. He was in charge of the group buy from RSM. He may start up another or he may be doing a GB for a different item, like slotted rotors (*wink* *wink*). :D

-Ryan

[Babalouie]

^--------- shhhhh!!!!

[nice96gt]

:peepsofa:

[mthegodfather]

Slotted rotors would be nice. Need a deal on the pads too.

[sunrunner_pei]

Slotted rotors? Hmmmm.... I could be interested. :D

[Babalouie]

I don't have people in slotted rotors now do I??? hmmmmm.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

You do the slotted rotors, count me in. As long as there is no repeat of last time. But I bet all the kinks are worked out.

[sunrunner_pei]

Slotted or cross-drilled, I need new rotors soon. :)

[mthegodfather]

I might be interested.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

i prefer cross slotted. I hear cross drilled like eating at your pads.

[Big Joe]

depending on when i could be interested dont really have the money right now

[nice96gt]

They will both wear the pads down a little more...but whatever. Anything that can make me stop better I can do with. :D If they are slotted and not cross-drilled I am interested...

So who's got the hook ups? ;)

Anyone? (Bobby...)

[Babalouie]

If I'm not mistaken, you can only get slotted for the N-bodies. I will do some research and get back to you monkeys ok?? hahhaa

[Grandam02chick]

I def am intrested in the cross drilled rotors I already have high performance pads.

[Grandam02chick]

how much would we be able to get em for ?

[Ishan]

hey, shouldn't we all be getting some trader rating for this? :P i'm still at 0..

[Big Joe]

I guess he's right. Its a deal that went down good with no major problems

[Junkyard Viking]

So it's $160USD total for both bars WITHOUT the discount? That means $120USD for both with the discount? Count me in for a front and rear bar for an 99GT.

[TheNewLMHDesign]

Sorry Junkyard Viking, this ended ages ago.

[Big Joe]

yes sir your a few mounths late

[Junkyard Viking]

Originally posted by TheNewLMHDesign
Sorry Junkyard Viking, this ended ages ago.

Lol I know I just realized that. I was on page 6 and was like "hey...wait...theres....thirty some odd more pages to this...damn"

[cyrrus]

junkyard check your pms

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

So how are the STB's working out for everyone?

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by DoubleOZeroGAse
So how are the STB's working out for everyone?

I'm loving mine, although I didn't get 'em through the GB.

[nice96gt]

I couldn't agree more. I love them. They have helped me out so much with handling I don't think I could go back to stock. I wish I was lowered a bit though, it would be much better. :)

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

Cool, thanks for the info. Hopefully another group buy will come along for STBs or I'll just buy my own at standard price, which still isn't too bad.

[mthegodfather]

I might sell mine if someone wants them.

[skibum1106]

im interested in the front and reart strut bars for a 2000 GAGT. Let me know if this happens thanks ya'll

[nice96gt]

This group buy has been over for many months...Sorry :(

[Big Joe]

:agree: