So anyways......................

[Goon]

So anyways, ya this is boring, what are you guys up to? Im just working, trying to get someways out of debt. I need to save up for insurence next month and get some money together so I can get my head gasket done. I want to get the head planed and ported and polished. But i did hear that when the head gasket goes the head tends to crack. I hoping thats wrong, cuz the guy that told me this had to get a head from a junker in Alberta (im in BC) cuz it was the closest one. All said and done he said it was 1200 bucks. If thats the case then ill have to wait to get it done. Anyways, i noticed nothing had changed for a while, so i put in my couple cents. Anyways im off to tim hortons for a coffee.

[ritzard]

im pretty sure you can get a head for your car for less here ill see what i can find and get back to you i know i was looking into it somewhere.

if you can get one for 500 and just pay shiping it would cost way less.

[TurboFreak]

I'm just waiting for the snow to go to get mine out of storage, I went over last weekend looking at the motor trying to come up with some ideas to do this summer and i noticed some oil that looks to be leaking out of the corner of my head gasket down onto the housing on my tranny. I really hope that its not the head gasket leaking but I think it is, I'll get a better idea once I get the car and drive it around and see if it appears again!

[ritzard]

do you start the motor every week or so?just to let it run or just leave it till spring


and i have a question i had a argument with someone about my car but i dont really know when your driveing the car hard when the turbo kicks in can you feel it ( verry little , yes , a lot )

[TurboFreak]

Originally posted by ritzard
do you start the motor every week or so?just to let it run or just leave it till spring


and i have a question i had a argument with someone about my car but i dont really know when your driveing the car hard when the turbo kicks in can you feel it ( verry little , yes , a lot )

Nope I just leave it until spring, I have to take a ferry to get to where the car is stored, so its a bit of a pain!

You get a nice kick out of turbo, I had a guy in with me last summer and he was asking if the car had any guts, I was just making a turn and had it in 3rd and I dropped it back in 2nd and jumped on it, the turbo kicked in and almost snapped his head off, actually I got a fright because he kept talking about whip lash, I guess he wasn't expecting that kind of pep in 2nd gear, he thought I had a 6 cy in the car and he wouldn't believe me that it was only a 4 cy, so I popped the hood and showed him:D

[ritzard]

cool so i guess i can tell them yes you do feel the turbo. thanks

[Goon]

Ya man, can totally feel that turbo kick in. you feel it more when your in the passenger seat, but either way you can feel it. Have to be careful when its wet, anytime the turbo kicks in its hard to keep the wheels from spinning. Im trying to figure out a way to keep the wheels from spinning. Even in the dry first gear youll find its hard not to spin the wheels. Im thinking as soon as i get the car lowered that it will help. With lowering it will stiffin the springs, in the back it wont sink as much and in the front it will be harder to lift, causing the wheels to be almost pushed to the ground. See what im saying? Anyways thats my theory. Well im heading out to wash my car, its about 9 or 10 degrees and sunny with no couds in the sky. Good ol Beautiful British Columbia.

[TurboFreak]

Must to be nice to be able to wash your car in March!!

I was going to get a lowering kit for my car but I've got everything on hold till I find out more info about the ground effects kit.

Anybody know if you change the drive axles that you can decrease the torque steer. Mine is wicked when I jump on the turbo it pulls me right across the road everytime and thats on dry pavement. I heard that if increase the size of the axle shaft on the main pulling side it helps but I don't know how true it is.

[Goon]

Ya it is nice to wash my car in March. I washed it 2 weeks ago it was gorgeous out. Ya i know what you mean about the torque walk, its even worse when its just a little wet. Like when its soaked they just spin, but when the road has that little damp on from just a little bit of rain, its way harsh. Anyways, about the drive axels, ive never heard of that. but i dont really see how it works. no matter what you do the motor is going to make the wheel spin right, but i can see if you put a bigger one on then it will slow things down cuz its heavier. but im not sure, im always looking for a way to get going faster faster. Like i want to look into shaving my flywheel down or getting an aluminum one made. so i guess thats why im thinking my theory for lowering the car will work. It will not let car lift off the ground so much making the wheels stick to the road better. So i can get going faster faster. Im going to look into that torque walk thing, talk to some of my buddies tonight or tomorrow if i see them, see if they've heard of it and if theyve tried it and such. Anyways, sounds like a good theory, im sure theyre must be more to it. if there is let me know, cuz i might have to try it after i lower the car. Well im off like a dirty shirt, talk to you guys later.

[TurboFreak]

Thats about as much as I've heard about it, I've asked a few people and some say it will help and others say it won't, so I'm at a lost if it will or if it won't.

I know what you are saying about faster faster, I've got to wait till my motor is a bit older before I start doing any major changes on it. Have you got the chip for yours yet?

[Goon]

No i dont have a chip yet. I heard somewheres that there is one, but then someone else somewheres said there wasnt one. Id love to get a chip. Do you know if there is one? Where bouts can i get one? Any idea on a price? That would be hella sweet if i could get my hands on a chip. Another thing id like to find would be some bigger fuel injectors. I havent had the time to find a catalogue and do some cross referencing or figuring out numbers to find some that will fit in that motor. I dont have the money to do the whole trial and error thing either. Oh well eventually ill get around to it. Mazda is using this motor in there new protege so i might go down to a mazda dealership and see what i can find in the way of parts cuz GM is clueless. Got any ideas?

[TurboFreak]

I can get the chips here local, but the garage wants to analzise my motor first to see what size chip it can handle, he told me its 300 bucks for the 30 HP and 500 bucks for the 50HP, I'm hoping to be able to go with the 50 when I'm ready.

You can get the chips at Mantaparts (http://www.mantapart.com/) just look under Engines and scroll to the bottom for the 2.0L

I was reading on another board that you don't really need bigger fuel injectors until you get up around 350 HP, and this guy seems to know what he was talking about.

[Goon]

Ya i remember now someone said that these injectors are good to 260, i forgot all about that. So you can get a chip for 300 or 500, im thinking right now thats a lot of money for horse power, well a lot of money right now anyways. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on a 30 horse chip, that seems to be a little more closer to resonable right now. Last night i talked to a guy i know and he had never heard of the drive shaft thing so theres another guy i want to talk to and see what he has to say. well im off to check out mantaparts.

[Goon]

is mantaparts american or canadian?

[ritzard]

the fuel injsctors need to be changed after 200 hp and accell makes some for our cars at your friendly nabourhood canadain tire. at least thats what they told me .

and the chip for the 2.0l motor will not work on the 2.0l turbo i emailed them about it .

[TurboFreak]

Originally posted by ritzard
the fuel injsctors need to be changed after 200 hp and accell makes some for our cars at your friendly nabourhood canadain tire. at least thats what they told me .

and the chip for the 2.0l motor will not work on the 2.0l turbo i emailed them about it .

I got the injector info from Pontiac Jeff on that other GA board, if its only 200 then I won't be long before I will have to change mine then, any idea of the price for the injectors at crappy tire?

They should state stuff like that on their site, it would make it so much easier:(

[Goon]

man thats week. Im going to find away to build my own chip, and companies should have some sort of catalouge telling you prices and such. So 200 horse and thats it eh hmmm. i wonder if you can take an injector to an injector place and have the holes made bigger so they can push more fuel. I might have heard of that in passing somewheres.

[TurboFreak]

I need to replace my injectors anyway, I was told by the mechanic that installed my motor that it looked like I had a injector that was washing down the a cylinder wall and that was porabbly the reason that my old motor went the way that it did

[Goon]

really, what happened to your last motor? washing down a cylinder wall, it must have been dropped eh?

[TurboFreak]

The crank was bad in the motor when I bought it, it had lots of power at first but once the oil got hot it started losing power, I was in living in Yellowknife at the time and was moving back to NFLD and a copule of years before I got about 2 hours from the ferry and something happened to the tranny in the Caprice Classic I had, it took me 8 hours to hobble the damn thing to the ferry, so instead of having any problems with the GA I ordered a new motor from Edmonton and had it installed before I even left Yellowknife LOL

[ritzard]

well when i get my motor compleatly rebuilt ill be able to tell ya more about it but im going for 220 230 hp maby more but i will not settel for less than 200.

The shop im dealing with said they can geasly get it up to 220 so we will see what they do to it.

this rebuild is set for late spring early summer but it depends mostly on the money.

ill let ya know ill be haveing it dynoed shortly after rebuild (time to break in the motor so i can do a good dyno test.)

[TurboFreak]

Anything specify you are getting done to the motor when its getting rebuilt?

I've got a couple more things to do with mine and then I'm going to put mine on a dyno as well, I'm hoping to be able to get to the track for a couple of runs this summer also.

[ritzard]

boreing the motor over not sure how much , more than likely port and polish , cai , 2.5-3.0 inch exhaust from downpipe back , if the shop can get me a better cam or grind mine im doing that , boost controler , turbo timer and than much later on new turbo.

The shop told me with just boring it over and getting better air intake and exhaust will make 200 hp no problem so im figuring the rest should get me up to 220. maby more.

[Goon]

good call. Im just going to do mine moderatley, ill be happy with 200 horse. I dont really want to afford to rebuild to that extent right yet, maybe in a couple years i can afford that, but for now im going to get some injectors and get my head planed and ported and polished, that should help things out a little for now anyways. Im also getting ready to build a cai and fabricate an intercooler and figure somewheres to put it, id want to put it in front of the radiator but ill have just as much lag so it wont make no difference there, but im thinking bout putting in a scoop and mounting like the toyotas and sprints have theres.

[ritzard]

you know i was thinking the same thing have a scoup suck the air in and accross the intercooler if we could think of a way to do this than it shouldent be to much pipeing and next to no lag difference.

i was also told that if you get a boost controler you should be able to get ( a good running motor) close to 200 hp.

rebuilding my motor i was told is only costing me $2200.

how i see it i have no choice but to rebuild my motor so why not do some extra work wile they have the thing out.

[Goon]

Wholly smokes, 2200 bucks! what are you having done. I rebuilt the 2.0L in my cavalier that i had and i had it bored so much that i needed new pistons, i got a new cam shaft, new oil pump, new conn rods, crank machined, new lifters, new valve springs, had the flywheel lightened, new exhaust header and my throttle body rebuilt for 1600 bucks. Are you doing any of the work? or is it all getting done for you? It just seems expaensive in my eyes, thats all. Anyways, ive come up with sort of an idea for the hood scoop intercooler idea. It was just an idea at the time. But if i have time this weekend then i will go measure up my idea and put it on paper. The hood scoop is the prime time idea, there will virtually be no lag. I just have to figure out a good size intercooler to match up with the turbo, cuz if you have one to big, then you get lad, and one to small it wont cool as effectively cuz it wont have the volume. But rather than buying an intercooler, when i get the dimensions of a good size one, i think i might fabricate my own. Shouldnt be too hard, some pipe and some sheet weld it all together and put some cooling fins on it. Its worth a shot anyways.

[ritzard]

Ya the motor rebuild is a little pricey and i am going to get new oversized pistons and its a Total Rebuild they said everything will be cleaned machined or replaced . all i do is drop the car off to them they do ALL the work then when they are done i drive it away With a 1 year warenty on EVERYTHING all work all workmanship and install and i do not pay labour if something goes wrong. So really i think its a good price. if you think still pricey let me know ill hunt arround a little more for some other prices but really there are twho shops here that have a good rep for doing a good job and this is the cheapest of the 2 for the same work.

i will know more on the price when i take the car in to them(Much later on this year)

[Goon]

Hmmm, that sounds like a good deal. I didint know the shop was going to do the rebuild for you, and warrenty it. When i did the rebuid, i did everything except the machining. So thats a pretty sweet deal.

[Goon]

now that im thinking about it, i didnt get the best of deals. but i did have my block bored 75 thou over, it had some deep scratches. But now im thinking i got the rip off. Damn

[ritzard]

the 2000 price was a estimate over the phone the real price will come when i get the car to them im not bringing it to them till i have saved up 3 g's so ill have the extra money for unexpected problems that only show them selves when everything is apart.

[Goon]

ya thats a good call. I will be saving money after i have my expenses paid off this month to get my head done. i still have to ind time to get down there when they are open so i can get an estimate. They're only open when im working at the other end of town an hour away.

[ritzard]

ya i hope i get my car fixed soon but we will see.