More Engine swaps info!! :D

[DaemonGA]

Hey all... Letting you guyz know about engine swaps.. Skylark 3.1L Supercharged, GTP 3.4L Supercharged, and uhhhmmm... oh and 3400 GA engine can fit into 96-98 GA!! My friend has 2 GAs have that Skylark engine and GTP 3.4L under the hood... I helped him dropped em in and seems dont need some custom works. GA wires and parts fitted em all... Though, They are same engine as GA engines... Oh, GTP engine needs ECU to run but same wires setup as GA.

~Daemon GA

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

so the motor mounts for a 96 grand am will fit a a 3.4 and hold that engine.?

[antirice]

wow, you are on crack :nic:

[urweak]

Originally posted by DaemonGA
Hey all... Letting you guyz know about engine swaps.. Skylark 3.1L Supercharged, GTP 3.4L Supercharged, and uhhhmmm... oh and 3400 GA engine can fit into 96-98 GA!! My friend has 2 GAs have that Skylark engine and GTP 3.4L under the hood... I helped him dropped em in and seems dont need some custom works. GA wires and parts fitted em all... Though, They are same engine as GA engines... Oh, GTP engine needs ECU to run but same wires setup as GA.

~Daemon GA

wow, was that english?

Should have looked more like this

Hey all... Letting you guys know about engine swaps for the grand ams.. The Skylark 3.1L Supercharged, GTP 3.4L Supercharged, and 3400 GA engines all fit into 96-98 GA!! My friend has 2 GAs and one has a Skylark engine and the other has a GTP 3.4L under the hood... I helped him drop both of them in and it seems you dont need to much custom works. GA wires and parts fit them all... Though, They are same engine as GA engines... Oh, but the GTP engine needed a GTP ECU to run but, still used same wires setup as GA.

Now im confused about what engines your talking about. your post is not helpful. you dont say what years the cars are that the motors where pulled from. and i think your also talking about the wrong motors too, or cars. explain some more

[Brad97GS]

There are no 3.1L Supercharged or 3.4L Supercharged engines, from the factory anyway. The 3.4L DOHC would be a tight fit I think...and they are already tight enough in the Grand Prix! :)

I am sure many people are interested in possible engine swaps. Can you please elaborate a little?

[DaemonGA]

Ok I will get those info more easily and well explained...
Buick engines are same engine as grand am likely i have seen same '97 grand am engine on '97 buick skylark - 3.1L engine with same layout and manifolds and intake manifold says "3100" letters on it and blocks... So... So far i have dropped 3.1L Buick Skylark Supercharged engine into '96 Grand Am and no custom works it fit perfectly! Don't need new ecu because it s same v6 but need little new wires attach to ecu for s/c and let it get used to it or just drop buick ecu in it and it will runs but it will be while till ecu gets used to it and '96-98 ga have bigger engine bays therefore, 3400 can fit into there and 3.1L engine mounts, trannies, manifolds, some stuffs fit on 3.4L so easily.. Buick is GM! So.. All GM engines are same as grand ams! As far i helped my friend dropped em in all is i know it is... Let me say one thing... have u seen engine in '97 skylark? SAME GA ENGINE THERE! ALL SKYLARK DOES HAVE SAME STOCK GA 2.4L or 3.1L ENGINES IN THERE! One thing i knew those is japanese mazda 626 V6 has been in Grand Am and needs custom work to get manual trannies and put stick in it... Any questions? Feel free to ask! Oh, one thing... Have u seen Cavaliers engine? They are same as Grand Am 2.4L but different tranny setup. So...

[Gimli]

There were no Skylark (or anything else for that matter) with a supercharged 3100 60 degree V6 from factory.

There's also never been a GTP (whatever model this trim would apply to) with a supercharged 3400 60 degree V6 either.

And replacing an engine with the same engine from a different car hardly qualifies as a "swap" in the modding scene.

[DaemonGA]

Ok whatever you says... Me and my friend has done dropped skylark 3.1 S/C.. probably u never heard of it because it was taken from '99 Buick Skylark... Plus, we has done dropped 3.4 GTP S/C in GA and have no probs... Gimli, go and check '97 skylark and you will see what i meant... same looks as 1997 grand 3100 engine... i have worked on lot of cars many times and i m not mistaken... I know that you think it s not possible.. BECAUSE it is possible because skylark has same mounts, same setup, same engine 3.1L and is part of GM... You thought grand am engines are only ones in grand ams... no your wrong.. what about cavalier 2.4 L engine? it s part of GM.. i used to owned 1996 cavalier and engine has same looks as 2.4L grand am engine and i have taken it out once and rebuilt it and it was same setup as grand am and because of lacks of parts i fitted grand am parts on cavalier engine and it does FIT! any saying? i dont want to arguing with you... as i saying, go and check out 1997 skylark and ask someone to bring '97 grand am with 3.1 v6 and pop skylark and grand am s hood and look at them and u ll see what i meant and see it for yourself.

P.S. Grand am tranny wont fit cavalier engine because it has different set up because of manual or auto and it has different gear ratios.

[iceman]

thanks for the laugh of the day.. you need to straighten out your information before you look even more misinformed.

[DaemonGA]

Geez fine what you believe in and i think i ll shut up about it and let you figure it out... if u want to help on more information about swaps and dont ASK me... Ask someone.. since i m very nice guy and i m not going to argue with you and i m stepping off this post and let you guyz talks

[Artic]

keep it on topic and play nice boys and girls.

[eric99gt]

i think you're a little confused daemon. we all know the grand am shares motors with other cars. what were saying is that there is not 3.1 or 3400 motor that comes supercharged stock. so if the 3400 you did stuff in the 96-98 was supercharged then it had to be custom. it wasn't just a swap of motors.

[DaemonGA]

Yeah eric what s i m saying... skylark and regular grand prix, not GTP has shared engines... skylark has s/c 3.1 v6...and n/a 3.1 v6 or 2.4L s/c or n/a... everyone dont get it except you eric... even cavalier have shared engines too... that s why they re same looks but can fit into grand ams and skylark s/c can fit into '96-98 and i have done that and it s not hard and no custom works needed... except has to put skylark ecu in for s/c but same grand am wires can fit em... except straight 4 engines won't fit into 3100 v6 grand ams... have to get new frames and mounts to convert v6 engine bay into 4 cyc... i m not mechanic... i was taught by my friend... he s street tuner freak he owns 1995 Chevy S10 with dropped in carbuatored 383 V8 engine done by little custom works to frames, mounts and tranny space... correct me if i m wrong but i know i m right because i saw it with my own eyes by helping my friend dropped skylark s/c into '96 grand am plus he dropped 3400 grand prix GTP s/c into '98 grand am without any troubles...

[Gimli]

:bs:
:bsmeter:

I'm sorry but it's you who is not understanding.

I could be mean and say that's probably because your ability to read is proportionate to your ability to write but I won't.

You have models of cars and engines all screwed up. You're mentioning engines that were never in the cars you associate them with and superchargers on engines they were never factory installed on.

By the way you write and the amount of wrong information you're putting out there is no credibility whatsoever for the information you're trying to provide.

Now a few people have tried to point this out to you so that you could get your story straight and check your facts but you don't appear to be interested in doing so.

At this point I have to bring up the BS flag and say that I respectfully think that you're a poser. You try to look cool by talking about things that are way over your head.

By now if you really had even a tiny shred of self respect you would verify the information we're giving to you (which WE did for your information) and you would find for yourself that neither the 3100 or 3400 GM 60 degree engine ever came factory-equipped with a supercharger. You would also find out that the GP GTP engine that is factory-equipped with a supercharger is a 90 degree 3800 V6, which is radically different from the 3100 and 3400. BTW the last year of production for the Buick Skylark was 1998.

So if you're not ready to swallow your pride and get your facts straight maybe you should just stop posting about it, we have enough kids spreading false information as it is...

[DaemonGA]

I'm not sure about GTP engine... I think it s BS too but I'll ask my friend about that but i m sure i saw him dropped GTP engine into '98 GA... Plus, i m very interested in engine swaps... No, I m not trying to be cool and be a poser. I KNOW 60 degrees and 90 degrees engines wont fit but my friend did.. I thought this information would help ya all a lot because i think it would be help to swap and if you want pictures of GTP and Buick S/C in GAs i would glad to show em to you but i dont have digital camera but just a crappy camera with roll of films. Though, I will tell my friend what all of you have said and I'll get his explaination posted here when i gets him to this point. Ok? I'm sure i been helped him a lot putting engine swaps in other cars but this ones he put in GTP and Buick Skylark engines in it and frames and mounts fit perfectly! Yeah, i m confused as well as all of you are. Let me know if you want to hear from my friend. I don't know much about Buicks because i hate buicks. Though, he said he took it from '99 skylark and i seems dont know about skylark. I think i got your point.

[Colin]

:lol: Another expert .

[Night Wolf]

pics..... no digital camera? use a regular camera nd bring it to a photo studio, they can put them on a CD and stuff....

[Nike0302]

daemon...check this its a quote from autotrader..on a 97 skylark

"The 1997 Skylark is available in six models, (Base) Custom Coupe, Custom Sedan, Limited Coupe, Limited Sedan, Gran Sport Coupe and Gran Sport Sedan. The Skylark is made in Lansing, Michigan where it is designed to be the most well equipped car for under $16,000. The Limited is equipped with standard features including cruise control, power mirrors, cargo net, 14 inch polycast wheels, upgraded audio system and power windows. Upgraded from the Limited, the Gran Sport is equipped with standard features including a 3.1L V6 engine, Gran Touring suspension, bucket seats, 16 inch aluminum wheels with touring radials and Gran Sport emblem. Order the Pontiac Grand Am or the Oldsmobile Achieva reports for more information on the sister cars."

nothing about being s/c'd and with 155 hp, y would you swap it anyway....and this is no such thing as a 99 skylark...they stopped making it in 97

and last time i checked...the gp only has a 3.8 s/c....it never had a 3.4 recently...

[VanishingImage]

this thread would confuse anyone??? I do know the SC'd Grand Prix's have the 3.8 engine,no other pontiac other then maybe the Bonniville has a SC from the factory...The skylark has the EXACT same engine options as the 96-98 GA's,the 2.4 and the 3.1.

[GrandAmKid16]

Don't you mean 3.8L superchagered engine.....there are no 3.4L supercharged engines in any GTP's I know of

[BBT]

Maybe the s/c he keeps using means 'Sugar Coated'? :D

daemon, pretty much everybody on this site that is interested in engine swaps knows that GM uses the same engines across product and model lines, so it is no surprise to them that some of the engines you list as fitting from, say a Skylark to a GA, do indeed fit with few or no problems.

The issue seems to be with your attributing supercharging & superchargers on engines that did not come from GM so equipped. So when you say these hook up to the ECUs easily, well, that is a little hard to believe. I'm sure you have figured this out by now. Looks like you need to go back to your friend and get him to give you the straight facts.

Also, most of us know the 3400 will fit in older GAs. A member of the club has already done such a swap. Of course, his is not s/c'd. Not by GM anyway.

[DaemonGA]

Probably he took s/c off on some cars but i didnt ask him... he "claimed" it was 3.4 GTP s/c dropped in '98 GA... and also, he "claimed" that he took s/c buick engine off the '99 skylark... so after seeing this swaps he has done which it interested me on grand ams so i decided to tell people about it. guess i m wrong sometimes but still i will take pics of them when i gets to my friend s house he lived 43 miles away and i live in town, not really big so he lived in capital city, Des Moines in Iowa... i think he s in trouble with me for now for BS :???: So far i know REAL swap on 1997 Ford Probe is Japanese Mazda 626 straight 4 or v6 drop in probes... that s only one swap i know but till i learned from my friends doing swaps on his two abandoned grand ams replacing the blown motors... I will take a pics of it when i gets there i probably go to my friends next week and i ll post pics here...

[azeniskid]

thansk buddy... you're a smart one.. dont' make me school you on motor swaps between chassis.

[MJE95GAGT]

http://www.60degreev6.com/
thanks for the laugh :roll2:

[Korbendallas68]

pssft. Dur. Really?? a 3400 can fit into a older GA?? Wow. Who'd a thunk it. :roll:

[Xidion]

grand prix GTP and GTX are 3.8L superchaged.

[Night Wolf]

here are 2 things worth noting....

... the early 90's GP GTP COULD have a 3.4 DOHC turbo... there were only 100 or so made... VERY rare (it was a 2 + 2)

when I first saw this, I thought he was saying a 3.1 is NA while the 3100 is s/c...

[Freeloader]

Originally posted by Night Wolf
here are 2 things worth noting....

... the early 90's GP GTP COULD have a 3.4 DOHC turbo... there were only 100 or so made... VERY rare (it was a 2 + 2)

when I first saw this, I thought he was saying a 3.1 is NA while the 3100 is s/c...

Now that's a car that I'd like to get my hands on...!!

[Freeloader]

Found one... on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6422&item=2488062123&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

[voyager]

that's not a 3.4DOHC turbo. that's a 3.1SOHC turbo gtp. there are two of them driving around here i see once in a while, the black one more oft than the red one. neither one drives very hard..

if you search some more, you can find that engine in a crate. it's a small turbo and not really very powerful. . but nice nonetheless. you could upgrade it if you had one, but it's not compatible with our 3100's.

[urweak]

Grammer own3s you!

[Blackrider]

Originally posted by voyager
that's not a 3.4DOHC turbo. that's a 3.1SOHC turbo gtp.

Yeah mean 3.1 OHV?

[RocketFast321]

It a turbo 3.1 mpi :)