Flowmaster 80

[Collegeman23]

Hey guys I need some answers and opinions. First off, yes or no on the 80, i heard and i like it but i want to see if you guys do. Second thing... will it turn my GA into a duo exhaust or can i keep it single?

[tdub4life]

That's what im banking on buying. And yes, you can stay with a single with the 80.

[Collegeman23]

SWEEET sounds awesome, but which 80 model # is it? I need guidance!

[matts]

now i may be wrong as it does happen from time to time. but the 80 series is a replacement for the factory muffler on camaro/TA. it's a single inlet/dual outlet. how would you go about taking a dual outlet muffler and making it have one exhaust pipe? yes it could be done, but it's really pointless. if you're wanting to keep the one exhaust pipe just get you a 40 series. the 40 and 80 are virtually the same muffler, just different designs. they sound almost identical

[Collegeman23]

Hey man you have a point.. maybe i'll go with the duo exhaust then cuz i want that v-8 sound of the 80. The 80 i think is much louder than the 40, but i could be wrong, but at this point the duo exhaust is looking good rite now.
Does anyhave have the 80 on their car? or sound clips i would like to see and hear it before i buy it in a couple of months.

[tdub4life]

I believe it's the other way around, the 40 is louder then the 80. Rather, deeper, more like a V8.

[Collegeman23]

hmm now i am not sure.... i have to go do the homework AGAIN!!!! thanks guys

[Collegeman23]

yeah the 40 does sound better to my liking... so i am gonna go with the 40 series probably

[matts]

it's all in your head. in real life they sound really close to the same. the 40 series is the "original" flowmaster sound. flowmaster made the 80 series sound like it so people with a camaro/TA could bolt it up to their stock exhaust more easily. it's just luck that it can be used on so many other applications. it depends on how many pipes you want coming out as to which muffler you buy

[Collegeman23]

hmm which one would u go with or should i say which is more compatable with the GA??? 40 or 80.. and also will this kick up the HP???

[tdub4life]

You'll get the most gain from replacing the pipes, but yeah, you'll get somewhat of a gain from the muffler change.

[yonkman]

Go with the 40 Series, thats what I have and it sounds awsome.

[matts]

depends. if you have the quad tips (like a GT) then the 80 will fit your needs a little better. but if you have just the dual tips the 40 will work. and that's if you want to keep your factory tips. so which muffler you go with really depends on how many pipes you want coming out the back. do you want one pipe or two? 2 tips or 4 tips?

you won't see a whole lot of a change with the muffler. it will sound different and you might notice a slight change, but it's not going to shave 4 seconds off your quarter times or anything.

[Collegeman23]

Thanks guys last post really is helping me out, just a lot to think about like cash on so on..... i'll let u guys know what i decide

[tdub4life]

Just a note to add... I noticed from someone elses post that you can get the Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler from Jegs.com for 50 bucks.. good deal if you ask me.

[matts]

or you could get you a borla for about $120 and slap that thing on there. not sure how much a crossflow borla would be. crossflow is the same kind of muffler as the 80 series flowmaster, single inlet/dual outlet. but if you want to check into those prices just call around and tell them you need a muffler for a camaro/TA

[VanishingImage]

I ordered the 80 series for my 97 yesturday from jegs for 72.99(plus tax since i live in the same state as one of their warehouses) and Im going to have a 4 tip setup.The shop that is usually go to said it would be about 160 or so for installation...Its ALL pipe work,thats what you might be looking at price range.

[matts]

that's not really that bad for installation. i paid $120 to have my exhaust installed, with new 3" pipe from manifold back. what size pipe you going with and what kind of tips?

[robry]

yeah that sounds right. I bought my dynomax super turbo camaro style/crossflow from jegs for 50$ + shipping (I live in PA, no tax) and it sounds great, apparently it is quietier than the flowmaster 80. Although I have the stock piping the whole way back still. I plan on getting that removed for mandrel bent tubing. At any rate, just plan it all out and get atleast 2 or 3 estimates. I was impatient and had my muffler just installed, cost me more than it should have, and I didn't get any new piping either.

[SPECIALGAGT]

C'mon Y'all !! Hooking up a 3" final-outlet pipe ("insert any brand-name here") to your stock dia exhaust-pipe will NOT improve performance, and you are paying a LOT, just for more noise / "Kuuuul sounds." And no-way-Hosay is ANY 4- or 6- cylinder gasoline engine EVER gonna develop a V-8 sound !! O.K.: to use the Cam/-Bird two-in-one-out muffler, just turn it bass-whackwards:: ONE inlet into TWO coming out. There are two sizes of this muff also, one used on the six (it's the LARGER size, to shut up the whappy sound of any six), and the smaller one from the V-8. On GA's the V-8 muff sounds pretty nice, but no "Borla-like." I got my first one fm JCWhitney on a close out catalog for 18.95, and installed it in a half-hour, all stock-sized tubing. Pay yer money and make a choice. "If you wanted a .357-Magnum, then why'd'ja buy a 38-shorty??" There are shops around here that will neatly trim your pipes from Cat-&-back and install anything you bring in for $50-bucks, extra pieces a@t extra prices if you forgot something, and bending is also extra. EVERYTHING is clamps and bolts- - -no welded joints to worry over. They also will "store" your legal parts in a pile of "trash" out back, which never gets dumped, so you can get legal innna-hurrry. This operation does take welding, though, and costs the same again. They also do sell Borla and others, but I have seen no need: "Sound Is Not Motion."

[1992grandam]

ummm......ok

[VanishingImage]

Originally posted by matts
that's not really that bad for installation. i paid $120 to have my exhaust installed, with new 3" pipe from manifold back. what size pipe you going with and what kind of tips?

The piping I had put on last time was 2 1/4 from cat(cat-back piping) and the muffler and the tips have 2 1/2 inlets,the tips have 3inch out and the 80 series has 2 1/2 dual out.Just don't understand why I paid less to have all the piping put on for like 60+ with the muffler as well when this cost 100 bucks more??Must because the bending and so on for it.

[JCU2]

Originally posted by SPECIALGAGT
And no-way-Hosay is ANY 4- or 6- cylinder gasoline engine EVER gonna develop a V-8 sound !!

Your exactly right but many here seem to think otherwise. Put any muffler on the GA and it will still sound like a 4 or 6cyl, albeit a bit louder and most likely more obnoxious. I can sympathize that you want a more muscular and powerful tone but people will never ever mistake your your car for having 8cyls. It just won't happen.

[VanishingImage]

Im not gonna say my 4cyl sounds like a v8 but its a FlowMaster 80 series and it deffinately has the classic FlowMaster rumbling sound,the only time theres any raspy sound is if the car hasn't had time to warm up before I actually go somewhere.It did quiet the exhuast noise level some though,its quieter at idle but does get louder(has more a deeper tone now with the new exhaust) as you get in the higher rpm's....Im deffly satisfied with the 80 series!