2005 pontiac grand am

[wil]

does anyone have any ideal how the new redesigned grand am is going to look?

[Jibo]

Maybe try back when it isnt two years away still...the 2003 model "JUST" came out man..

[wil]

yes your so true though try telling that to motor trend who knows about things 5 to 10 years away

[Y2KGAGT]

Originally posted by wil
yes your so true though try telling that to motor trend who knows about things 5 to 10 years away

Aren't they usually concepts though? Or just Motor Trends guess.. and not Gm's?

[wil]

for the most part your correct though they have hit apon concepts that years later did become production. grand prix was one mercury cougar was another

[ERMIGAOWNER]

I have actually seen the 2004, but I couldn’t take any pictures, because GM only made 5 of them. They are going to head off to show, but I couldn’t tell you when. Anywho, they don’t look too much different from the 2003 except it had a sweet sc/t style hood, there are a few minor changes, but nothing really exciting. Maybe if I can get lucky and get some pictures later, but no promises, because GM is very uptight about their new models.

[wil]

is the 2004 your talking about still going to look same as 99-2003 just a few minor changes

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by wil
is the 2004 your talking about still going to look same as 99-2003 just a few minor changes
Yes GM doesn't have plans to change it until 2005.
The GP is designed for 2004. New sheet metal, and 20 more hp but built on the same platform as the current GP.

[Gimli]

The best guess currently as to what the next gen GA will look like is the G6 concept. The 2004 Malibu is also built on the same platform (Epsilon) as the next gen GA so it shouldn't be too far off size and space-wise.

[wil]

Hold on are you talling me that the new grand am is going to look like a fukn malibu. a family sedan. Oh my god gt will be a malibu with a spoiler on the back. goodbye sharp grand am I remember this same thing happened to the 88 T-BIRD when in 89 it turned into a fat ugly yellow cab luxury liner.

[Kdawg207]

here it is

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/g6huge.jpg

[Jason Lesbirel]

Let's just hope that the '05 GA will look better than the Malibu's replacement - I personally don't like the new Malibu's styling.

[wil]

Did I forget to mention my mother has a new malibu. its growing on me!!!!

[wil]

wow is all I can say!!!!!

[Kdawg207]

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/g6huge.jpg

[Jason Lesbirel]

Yes, the G6 is a very nice concept vehicle - it'll be interesting to see how much of it will find it's way into the design of the production car.

[wil]

it is a amazing design forward into the future

[wil]

ts on the 2005 grand am question below this one there is a picture

[Dallas_95GT]

Originally posted by Jason Lesbirel
Let's just hope that the '05 GA will look better than the Malibu's replacement - I personally don't like the new Malibu's styling.

I agree with that Jason! I don't care for the new Malibu's at all....look like a Saturn with Chevy badges! :mad:

[Gimli]

Originally posted by wil
Hold on are you talling me that the new grand am is going to look like a fukn malibu. a family sedan. Oh my god gt will be a malibu with a spoiler on the back. goodbye sharp grand am

No, that'S not what I'm saying. I said that it will be built on the same platform and it'll be similar sizes, not looks.

Just like the 99-03 GA were built on the same platform as the 98-03 Bu and 99-02 Alero. Similar size cars, different looks.

[martopg]

Ugghhh... i dunno what they're thinking with that G6 concept... i think it looks damn ugly! thats just my .02 tho

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Gimli
The best guess currently as to what the next gen GA will look like is the G6 concept. The 2004 Malibu is also built on the same platform (Epsilon) as the next gen GA so it shouldn't be too far off size and space-wise. As far as I know and am concerned, the G6 is the prototype for the next GA. Is it me or does G6 = 6th Generation Grand Am? Because that is what the next one will be.

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
As far as I know and am concerned, the G6 is the prototype for the next GA. Is it me or does G6 = 6th Generation Grand Am? Because that is what the next one will be.
It makes very logical sense to me TA^Guy from everyone who I have talked to the inside word is it is the prototype for the Grand Am. Of course no one is going to say it offically but im pretty sure of it

[Gimli]

Yeah but one could argue that GM's cars hardly ever look like their early concepts.

Since that guy wanted to know what the next generaiton would look like I'm not sure the G6 is really a very good indication. But it's probably as close as we can get at this time :)

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by Gimli
Yeah but one could argue that GM's cars hardly ever look like their early concepts.

Since that guy wanted to know what the next generaiton would look like I'm not sure the G6 is really a very good indication. But it's probably as close as we can get at this time :)
That may have been true in the past but GM is in a new era. The 2004 Grand Prix followed its concept design(GForce concept). So have most of GM's other recent concepts that have been put into production in other division like saturn

[HighwayProwlerz]

Well I for one hope they don't make the G6 look like that... YIKES! I like that other GA concept car everyone was passing around before... the GTX or something?? Now THAT was awesome!!!!

[Red99GAGT]

I was talking to my buddy who is a salesman at a Pontiac dealership. He said he was talking to a GM rep. and they said that the '05 Grand Am GT "could" see a 6 spd. manual and all-wheel drive. Now this is NOT and I emphasize NOT a direct statement from Pontiac, just something floating around in the rumor mill. How awesome of a car would that be though...:agree:

[D.L.P.J.]

I would agree as well. A very high percentage of GM's recent concept cars made it to production strikingly similiar. I think the G6 will not have 18'' tires and have different side view mirrors but with Pontiac going with the sleek look the G6 is problably very close to form, just take a look at the GA GXP it has very similar styling cues as well as same wheel/rubber combo and HP rating.
The Epsilon platform will be a great handling improvement as well.
I think the new Nine 3 Saab gives us some hints as well. It has a similar target customer as a GA GT but its fo those who can afford 30,000 plus and the refinement that level brings.

[D.L.P.J.]

HighwayProwlerz your car is off the chain Baby!! I have a black 2k3 GT1 with silver detailng and mesh grill inserts front and rear, I named her "Black Beauty".
I see your hood but I don't care for it, what else have you done to it? I plan to supercharge mine and have already done the neccessary suspension, exhaust, and braking upgrades to handle it.:)

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by HighwayProwlerz
Well I for one hope they don't make the G6 look like that... YIKES! I like that other GA concept car everyone was passing around before... the GTX or something?? Now THAT was awesome!!!!
The GXP wasnt a concept of the new generation that was the current Grand Am with various engine and exterior modifications.(A special edition I would call it) If they came out with that car instead of a redesigned one on a different platform it would be a bad blow to the Grand Am. Since nothing major has changed on the GA since 99 its time to update the platform and thats what the next generation GA is said to do. It once again will become larger with higher engines and more features. Some features that have been missing that should have been in place for the current Grand Am's

Red99GAGT- I have heard the same things and I trust the people I have heard them from I head about the 6 speed and AWD also lets not forget the hardtop convertible (thats what I've got my eye on, I really dont care if my dad said I cant get another GM if they make that its going to be sitting in my driveway)

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by XtremeGrandAm
That may have been true in the past but GM is in a new era. The 2004 Grand Prix followed its concept design(GForce concept). So have most of GM's other recent concepts that have been put into production in other division like saturn
I agree, Lutz is a man of action and it's about time GM stepped back up top where it belongs. I'm sure the wheels won't be 20's like the G6 concept, and I'm sure alot of minor things will change. But for the most part that G6 will most likely be a look at our next GA. It will probally get new mirrors, the leather interior won't be as flashy and I don't the titanium trim dash either. But since Lutz as joined the team GMs are getting more competitive again. I'm sure 16's will be standard and 17's optional, along with packing more power. AWD, maybe I wouldn't count on it. But one things for sure, with the Saab and new Malibu built on the Epsilon platform the next GA will also be built on it as well and AWD is a possiblity.

[fourbanger92]

I saw a prototype of a grand am in shop in downtown Royal Oak Michigan I dont know what year it was the guy wouldnt say anything about it. I only saw the front and barely the sides it was awesome looking. It had basicly the same shape as the 99-03 but with clean ground effects and a nice hood.

[LoneRangers15]

I believe there is a picture of it on edmunds.com

[Pte Socks]

good god what an ugly car the G6 is! goddamnit what is going on with the car industry? they are trying to make everything look so futuristic! god! k well i just saw a mazda 6 today and god thats a nice looking car.. the problem.. you should see the interior dash.. its like from some star wars thing! you cant even replace the factory cd player! omg.. why couldnt they just keep things simple.. i love my ga.. but i albsolutly hate how GM has the 2003 gase look like an alero.. god its ugly! and as for the mazda 6.. i love the looks of that car but damn the interior dash area where the controls are is just terrible.. i just hope car companies dont continue with their futuristic designs and try and make everything look so good in their eyes.. well enough of my ranting.

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
I agree, Lutz is a man of action and it's about time GM stepped back up top where it belongs. I'm sure the wheels won't be 20's like the G6 concept, and I'm sure alot of minor things will change. But for the most part that G6 will most likely be a look at our next GA. It will probally get new mirrors, the leather interior won't be as flashy and I don't the titanium trim dash either. But since Lutz as joined the team GMs are getting more competitive again. I'm sure 16's will be standard and 17's optional, along with packing more power. AWD, maybe I wouldn't count on it. But one things for sure, with the Saab and new Malibu built on the Epsilon platform the next GA will also be built on it as well and AWD is a possiblity.
Yes it all does have to do with Lutz. I agree he is giving GM new life. Some things were too late into be produced when he came into control like the saturn ION but he is really cleaning things up and getting all the divisions back on track. I also agree some things are just pure concept like you mentioned the 20 inch wheels. I know were not going to see that either.

Unrealoaded- Well everyone has their own opinion of cars and I respect yours. But I dont agree with your comments about the G6 I think it looks great and I really like it. But I do agree on the controls on the mazda 6 very nice car but the interior positioning needs some changes

[Night Wolf]

Originally posted by Unrealoaded
good god what an ugly car the G6 is! goddamnit what is going on with the car industry? they are trying to make everything look so futuristic! god! k well i just saw a mazda 6 today and god thats a nice looking car.. the problem.. you should see the interior dash.. its like from some star wars thing! you cant even replace the factory cd player! omg.. why couldnt they just keep things simple.. i love my ga.. but i albsolutly hate how GM has the 2003 gase look like an alero.. god its ugly! and as for the mazda 6.. i love the looks of that car but damn the interior dash area where the controls are is just terrible.. i just hope car companies dont continue with their futuristic designs and try and make everything look so good in their eyes.. well enough of my ranting.

Can we keep God out of this?

[Pte Socks]

sure.. its just an expression.. but if it offends you, ill stop

[GrandAmGt199]

the 2005 grand am GT's come with turbo. their pretty hot. im definitly gonna have me one

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by GrandAmGt199
the 2005 grand am GT's come with turbo. their pretty hot. im definitly gonna have me one
Where did you hear this? I have heard nothing about using turbo's in the GT's I know they are planning on replacing the Ecotec as the base engine and going to be using a low displacment "high feature" V6 and then the GT will be getting a higher displacment "high feature" V6 like the new malibu which will be 240 HP so the Grand Am will be at least that. Most likely if they were going to boost the engine it would be a supercharger and not a turbo.

[John95GA]

I actually like the look of the G6 (except for the tail lights which bear no grand am resemblance), but I want to see what a coupe version looks like. If they produce a coupe w/ at least 240 HP and a manual tranny, I'm definitely in! I don't like the new GPs at all though. :(

[XtremeGrandAm]

I agree about the tail lights they could do something with those to make them more traditional and less like a chysler

[GrandAmGt199]

i found out that the 2005 GT's come with turbo online, if im not mistaken i found it on yahoo somewhere, but yes they will come with turbo

[Gimli]

Originally posted by GrandAmGt199
i found out that the 2005 GT's come with turbo online, if im not mistaken i found it on yahoo somewhere, but yes they will come with turbo

Oh well, if it's on yahoo, it's gotta be true :D

Just pulling your leg but I think I'll wait until I see something from GM before I get all excited...

[XtremeGrandAm]

Originally posted by GrandAmGt199
i found out that the 2005 GT's come with turbo online, if im not mistaken i found it on yahoo somewhere, but yes they will come with turbo
I believe you saw it on yahoo but I really dont believe it. GM has always used superchargers rather than turbos and I think they should stick that way. Even the new Saturn Red Line which uses the Ecotec used a supercharger instead of a turbo and everyone was saying it was going to be turbo

[ga04stock]

Originally posted by Kdawg207
here it is

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/g6huge.jpg i saw a GTP that looked similar to this pic it was good looking, very fast, and nice sounding. Was it the GTP 2005. It looked close to this pic. But it said on the back Grang Prix GTP.

[litdevil316]

Originally posted by Kdawg207
here it is

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/g6huge.jpg


reaplace the grand am with that? :nono: some one :shoot2: the dude that thought that up. :moon: sure it looks nice, but it doesnt even look like a grand am. :pissed2: :2up: :randy:

[John95GA]

Sure it does! At least from the front, but not the back. It has the cats-eye headlights and the split honeycomb grill, kinda like the 92-95s, but w/ more modern curves. It probably resembles the last-gen Grand Prix, more than the G/A, overall. Personally, I don't care what they call it; just produce it! :D

[litdevil316]

OK PPL. june 2003 issue states on page 75

" PONTIAC G6
Concept Purpose-- Announces Pontiac's future design direction.
Chances of Production-- It's the 2004 Grand Am."

ok. the car does look nice and all, but damn it, IT AINT NOW GRAND AM!!!!!! it doesnt look like the 2003 ga at all!!!!! :2up:

[92CamaroRS]

its called a REDESIGN it isnt suppose to look like the 2003 duh! i personally love the new look and if it werent for the fact that im broke id buy one for graduation in 2005! its nice and sleek i love that look!.

[litdevil316]

tru, but even redesigns should look like the one before it some what. even when they went from the '96-'98 style to the current wide track they still looked like the previous model, with obvious changes. i'm just saying that the new '04 should still look like the '03.

[John95GA]

Originally posted by litdevil316
OK PPL. june 2003 issue states on page 75

" PONTIAC G6
Concept Purpose-- Announces Pontiac's future design direction.
Chances of Production-- It's the 2004 Grand Am."



First of all, quit yelling! It's all opinion, and everyone has a right to one... Second, I wouldn't consider Popular Mechanics (not that they're a "bad" magazine at all) to have all their facts straight about when a new Pontiac model like this would come out. That is the ONLY place I've seen (assuming you're right, 'cuz I haven't picked up the magazine yet to look) say that it would be a 2004 model. That means they would already be scrambling to produce it and get it out this fall. It just came out a few months ago and I've never seen anything from GM go from concept to production that fast. :agree: Plus, all the Pontiac magazines (Pontiac Enthusiast, High Performance Pontiac) say it would most likely come out in the 2005 model year. I would trust those mags' articles about Pontiac concepts more than I would some magazine that has a much broader scope.

[John95GA]

Originally posted by litdevil316
tru, but even redesigns should look like the one before it some what. even when they went from the '96-'98 style to the current wide track they still looked like the previous model, with obvious changes. i'm just saying that the new '04 should still look like the '03.

Again, that's an acceptable opinion that I partly agree with. However, these dramatic remodels are happening everywhere. Just look at practically all of Nissan's lineup. Do the current Maximas and Altimas look anything like the ones from the mid-late '90s (I hate both of those designs, btw :P )? How about the 350Z vs. the 300ZX or the new Mazda RX8 vs. RX7? I'm sure there's more, but that's just what I came up with off the top of my head. Apparently, it's working out well, at least for Nissan. I see those cars everywhere, even the 350Zs. I still love the current GAGT design, but I think this new design direction is important for Pontiac and GM. Times change and you gotta keep up w/ the times. ;)

[litdevil316]

i know. i just still think there should be a lil more resemblence though. there is nothing wrong with a major redesign, i just think they should design it to look like it somewhat, if even a lil. like with the corvettes, the overall shape and all it still there.

[Grand_Am_Guru]

gt grand am is going to be pretty much the same car. gxp grand am is the one that will come with the supercharger.

[Gimli]

Originally posted by Dude1234
gt grand am is going to be pretty much the same car. gxp grand am is the one that will come with the supercharger.

IF they actually do feel like doing the GXP by that time it MIGHT come with a supercharger.

They haven't even decided what the next powertrain is gonna be so the GXP question is still far off.