Nitrous...good or bad?

[Bjornboy81]

Hey guys,

I've been looking into N2O systems lately, being that it has the best gain per dollar ratios. I want some opinions about it. I want to know a couple things acutally...

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Is it easy to install...can I do it myself?
Does N2O hurt the engine?
What kind of gains can I expect without hurting the engine?
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I know you have to go to colder spark plugs, back off the timing, and use premium gas...are there any other precautionary measures that should be taken?

Thanks a lot guys :D. Depending on feedback here, I might get it first thing in the spring.:D

[Matt95GT]

Here's my 3 rules that apply to all forms of boost:

1. It's crucial that the engine gets more fuel in proportion. (which is why I prefer the simplicity (but more install work) of a "wet" kit. )

2. It's impossible to tell how much the engine will withstand without damage.

3. There's always the possibility of engine damage when running ANY amount of boost... therefore if you depend on the car for daily life, make sure you can afford a new engine before considering boost.

...now with that said, a 50 shot should do the job. I've seen a 3400 dip into the mid-high 14's with 50 shot / Intake / exhaust.

[StaindGreen9]

I wouldn't ever put it in any of my cars:

"2. It's impossible to tell how much the engine will withstand without damage."

[VanishingImage]

Talk to Don,hes been running nitrous in his zx2(ford escort) for a couple years and don't think hes done much engine work on it with the nitrous installed. If installed right and used responsibly and reasonably,meaning just at the track,you should be fine and shouldn't have to worry about engine damage,but more engine wear after time,not right away though,but yea,just be aware at some point your going to have to beef it up after time if you plan on using it more then a few times a year.I still recommend you to Don(MagnusIII) about it,hes prolly one of the more knowledgible people here about nitrous(no offense to anyone that uses it or does know some about it)

[30thAnnGAGT]

Paul, give me a call this weekend 248-494-0154.

I'll run it down for you. I've run N20 in a GA. Was actually the 1st to do it that I know of :) Ran it for 2 years.

Like I said give me a call, it's a TON to type out :)

[Bjornboy81]

Sorry Adam, didn't have a chance to call you over the weekend, but I'll try this week sometime.

Anyone else have an educated opnion on that matter?

[car audio dave]

i know a few things about it:
1) learn how to use it from someone who is an "expert" with using it. lots of ricers out there dont know how to properly use it and mess up their engines.

2) id have it professionally installed and have it hooked so that it only engages when youre at WOT, thats a good idea with an auto tranny.

3) also have a remote bottle warmer and remote activater. then leave the bottle in the trunk.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Bjornboy81
Sorry Adam, didn't have a chance to call you over the weekend, but I'll try this week sometime.

Anyone else have an educated opnion on that matter?
I personally prefer wet setups over dry.
A little more to install them but in the long run it's better peace of mind.

Also, don't let the ample 'bang for the buck' go to your head.

Many people start with small nozzles and get bit by the bug and go bigger and bigger until the motor bites back.

A Micro switch is your best friend. This way even if you choose to activate it manually the micro switch will be a fail safe to make sure your activating it at WOT.

You'll also need to change your plugs, IIRC you'll want to goto a colder plug but I could be wrong. Last system I help install the motor was already run with N2O and we just installed a entirely new setup.

Noted in anothe rperson's reply was a bottle heater. A bottle heater is a good idea to keep bottle pressure up, but make sure it's wired to the ignition so it isn't left on and unattended.

[Bjornboy81]

So it sounds like N2O isn't all that bad as long as one doesn't get stupid with it. This is my daily driver, so I would never do anything that would hurt her.

And yes, you do have to go one step cooler on the plugs, along with backing off the timing 2*, and running premium. I will most likely be using this only a few times a year.

I was looking into using a wet system, just because I don't want to put the extra strain on the injectors and fuel pump.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Bjornboy81
So it sounds like N2O isn't all that bad as long as one doesn't get stupid with it. This is my daily driver, so I would never do anything that would hurt her.

And yes, you do have to go one step cooler on the plugs, along with backing off the timing 2*, and running premium. I will most likely be using this only a few times a year.

I was looking into using a wet system, just because I don't want to put the extra strain on the injectors and fuel pump.
Sounds like you go it. And yes I forgot to mention the timing and fuel (the last motor I toyed with N2O on required race fuel anyhow).

And you reason for a wet system is my same feelings. I personally don't trust a factory fuel system to produce enough fuel volume on demand to feed 'X' amount more power.

Another good point most don't know about nitrous oxide, and a huge reason why it kills so many trannys, is that nitrous oxide typically will add 25% more torque than it's advertised hp.