Anyone Know How To Undo This

[AeR0]

just wondering...

since im trying to get at my heads there is this one bolt thats preventing me too

ok if you look at your dipstick you will see how there is a metal bracket holding it onto the rocker cover bolt ive undid the one bolt but i cant lift it off and there is another bolt somewhere i dont know where it is any one know?

[AeR0]

here is another shot....

[AeR0]

and another....

[urweak]

pull on it harder

[ronnieb55]

just pull real hard and twist it back and forth . it will come out. its an o-rig holding it in now

[AeR0]

wow i must have to pull really hard are you guys sure we are talking about the same part?


there is one other part on top its a hose with a clamp ive got that removed than there is a bracket that holds the dipstick thats the one i cant get off it seems like there is another bolt holding it down somewhere but i cant find it.

are you guys sure i should be pulling on it hard????

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by AerosGA
wow i must have to pull really hard are you guys sure we are talking about the same part?


there is one other part on top its a hose with a clamp ive got that removed than there is a bracket that holds the dipstick thats the one i cant get off it seems like there is another bolt holding it down somewhere but i cant find it.

are you guys sure i should be pulling on it hard????


if you cant figure out how to do these simple things i dont think you should be doing something as complex as pulling your head off.

[AeR0]

have u tried taking yours off?

there seems to be no play in this peice what so ever..

[AeR0]

Originally posted by ronnieb55
just pull real hard and twist it back and forth . it will come out. its an o-rig holding it in now

yeah you are right it it s a o-ring holding it down and underneath it is the bolt for the rocker covers..

ive tried pulling and pulling and twisting but it seems as if there is another bolt holding it on still? (this is the one that holds the dipstick)

are you sure it will come off after i undo the one bolt for the hose and pull it out of the way and than you say this o-ring should just lift off???

[urweak]

dude, seriously, give it some muscle. just do it and stop second guessing everyone.

[AeR0]

Originally posted by urweak
dude, seriously, give it some muscle. just do it and stop second guessing everyone.


its really funny how one minute u hate be because i say "id rather have a cai" when in your post it didnt state what you were selling other than a "intake" i didnt see the picture at the time and than the post above me said it was a WAI and so i posted that id rather have a cai since i had pm'd you about it. i dont understand why you are all bent out of shape but really there is no need for it and this board has a good community and so there is no need for this crap to go on you sold the item either way! :-D

now are you just telling me to give it muscle and to pull it more and twist it or are you just telling me that so u will see me break it???

let me know,
thanks

Aaron

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by AerosGA
its really funny how one minute u hate be because i say "id rather have a cai" when in your post it didnt state what you were selling other than a "intake" i didnt see the picture at the time and than the post above me said it was a WAI and so i posted that id rather have a cai since i had pm'd you about it. i dont understand why you are all bent out of shape but really there is no need for it and this board has a good community and so there is no need for this crap to go on you sold the item either way! :-D

now are you just telling me to give it muscle and to pull it more and twist it or are you just telling me that so u will see me break it???

let me know,
thanks

Aaron


STOP THE BULLSHIT NOW !!!!!


that goes for both of you!

dipsticks are either oring'd into the block or bolted to the oilpan, ither way to get to that bolt, just lift it up over the stud and take the bolt off underneath of it, but fair warning, if you cant figure this out, your going to get in over your head(no pun intented). i have had numerous motors apart and even on something easy like a SBC or SBF it sounds like this is over your head. fair warning though, as you dont seem to listen to people unless they say what you want to hear.

[AeR0]

Originally posted by 92CamaroRS

dipsticks are either oring'd into the block or bolted to the oilpan, ither way to get to that bolt, just lift it up over the stud and take the bolt off underneath of it, but fair warning, if you cant figure this out, your going to get in over your head(no pun intented). i have had numerous motors apart and even on something easy like a SBC or SBF it sounds like this is over your head. fair warning though, as you dont seem to listen to people unless they say what you want to hear. [/B]


so how do u know there isnt a o ring up top and it be bolted down below? ive tired and tried and tried to lift it and it wont budge thats what makes me think there is another bolt somewhere and thats why i posted in the first place. you cant come on here and say its over my head u dont know my mechanical abilities so therefore you are judging me.

i just thought i could seek some help on here as to where the other bolt was since i know this thing is not budging at all.

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by AerosGA
so how do u know there isnt a o ring up top and it be bolted down below? ive tired and tried and tried to lift it and it wont budge thats what makes me think there is another bolt somewhere and thats why i posted in the first place. you cant come on here and say its over my head u dont know my mechanical abilities so therefore you are judging me.

i just thought i could seek some help on here as to where the other bolt was since i know this thing is not budging at all.

youve proven your ability, you cant take a freaking dip stick off! you prematurly deem your engine as trashed. its thin sheet metal, doesnt take much muscle to lift and pop that off of the stud.


wanna prove yourself? what else has to be taken off to get the head off?

[AeR0]

1st off im not here to proove anything?

seems as you are though...

2nd your a moderator and you get away with stuff like this?

3rd there has to be another bolt somewhere ive never done this before and i will admit im learning as i go along but at least im trying to do something and not flaming over people for it.

[AeR0]

also you sure do act your age:
Birthday: March 12, 1987


grow up buddy

id love to find out who made you a moderator maybe they will demod you for acting like this.

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by AerosGA
1st off im not here to proove anything?

seems as you are though...

2nd your a moderator and you get away with stuff like this?

3rd there has to be another bolt somewhere ive never done this before and i will admit im learning as i go along but at least im trying to do something and not flaming over people for it.


oh so you can question my mechanical abilities but I can't question yours?

you've had 3 people tell you it pulls out, yet you keep questioning people.

i have absolutly nothing to prove, esp. to you. Just was trying to help you avoid making a BIG mistake, seriously, do you even know what all is required to remove the Cyl. Head? if you can't answer that, you really shouldnt be trying to remove it. esp. if you dont have a Repair manual(would tell you how the dip stick comes out).

[nice96gt]

I don't think being a moderator makes a difference. He was just trying to help you out. He seems to know quite a bit about motors and I would have a little faith, even if he is younger than you.

Honestly though, I would have grabbed a Haynes manual before I even started ripping things a part and read it a couple of times. Next, if you can't trust what people are telling you on here (which may or may not be correct, but it's up to your discretion) then don't. I mean I haven't ever taken my heads apart, but I wouldn't go into it blind like you are. Ask yourself, are you really skilled enough to be able to take on this task? If you are, that's great, but if you aren't, I would recommend putting it back together and taking it to a shop. Why exactly are you taking your heads off anyways? I thought you were getting a new motor?

[RocketFast321]

In my Haynes Book 99-2000 (grand am)
It does not say how to remove the the dip stick. The 2.4 is not that big you should be able to follow the tube with your hand to feel where it goes, and if it run into a bolt.

[Brad97GS]

On the old Quad 4, the dipstick tube had to be twisted and then pulled out. This is different though, as they changed the design a bit. Still, it may be worth it to try twisting to the left and then pulling. I'm not sure which way you've twisted it so far though. Or, try to follow the dipstick down and see where it goes. Maybe take off the intake manifold first to get a better view. You'll have to do that anyway if you are pulling the head. Also, I hope you have a manual of some kind if you're working on a 2.4L. They aren't as simple as the OHV V6s...

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by AerosGA
also you sure do act your age:
Birthday: March 12, 1987


grow up buddy

id love to find out who made you a moderator maybe they will demod you for acting like this.

I made him a moderator.

If I knew more about the 2.4 I'd help ya. Follow along the dirstick shaft with your hands until it enters the oil pan. Do you feel any bolts? If so, remove them. Don't waste your time arguing with people on the Internet about it, just do it. :)

[AeR0]

yeah ive followed it down but room is pretty restrictive. Im going to go and try some more today.

for the ppl who helped me i appreciated it im glad there is still helpful ppl here on the board.

thanks!

[Matt95GT]

We had to put some effort into removing the dipstick on a 98 2.4 (should be the same as yours) The challenge is, it is difficult to initially break loose the o-ring at the bottom because the top bolt prevents you from using a twisting motion. IIRC took 2 of us... I was up top pulling hard, the other was under the car twisting at the bottom of the tube.

When you have it off, check on the o-ring condition... the reason we took it off was to reseal it to stop it from splooging oil all over the underbody / driveway.


Originally posted by Brad97GS
Maybe take off the intake manifold first to get a better view.

They completely relocated the dipstick starting in 95. It's on the rear (exhaust side) of the engine now, since the 2.4's oil fill cap is on the timing chain cover. The 95's oil cap is strictly a fill cap... thankfully, cause it had to be relocated with a hose when I did the S/C.

[AeR0]

kool thanks for all the help!

[Haddojh]

dude.. don't pull it out.. just take a long screw driver pry bar.. and pry the bracket part of the bolt... that works.. i just tore down my whole motor.. to find out it had a bottom end issue.. and i just got done with a motor swap.. found a 2.3 with 46,000 miles... cheap.. anyways.. if you need any parts.. i have a whole parts motor.. laters... James

[AeR0]

its a o-ring and its attached to one of the rocker bolts and there is not enough play to pull it up over.. everyone says there is but there isnt..

[HeyDace]

I've done many a head and many a water pump on those and have never removed the dip stick, just pry up on the bracket to get it off the stud, then bend it outta the way as Haddojh has said. That's what I do, they bend back in place.