Abs ??

[patcal]

Hi all,

I have been getting to know my 04 Grand Am & it looks like I have no ABS. ABS was standard in my 96. How can I tell if I have this? I can find no light on the dash or anything under the master cylinder that looks like my old GA. Thanks.

[sunrunner_pei]

Do you have an ETS button above your stereo? If not, you do not have ABS. IIRC, GM made ABS an option on the 2003+ SE; it was standard equipment on years before that.

[patcal]

Thanks. I do not have ETS. I knew that but I was not sure if they were related as options. The car was sold to me listing ABS. I should have checked better. Thanks again.

[sunrunner_pei]

No problem! That's what we're here for. :)

[Abbaby]

I have an 04 and I dont have ABS either.

[patcal]

I just thought it was standard so I did not even check it out when I bought the car. Thanks.

[Rayz]

just take out and lock up the brakes @ about 30 MPH you'll know if you have them

[DontPassTheFence]

Originally posted by Rayz
just take out and lock up the brakes @ about 30 MPH you'll know if you have them
lol! id love to mess around with a car that doesnt have abs, that is my idea of a good time, in the rain, at 2am, when no one is on the road. oh god, the times we could have

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

I hate ABS.

[the doors lock]

the ABS light should be coming on everytime put the key in the ignition / start the car

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Jordon'sGrandAm
I hate ABS.
Ditto. Anyone tha tknows how to properly control a vehicle without panicing does not need abs and can typical stop shorter than those with abs.

[Cyrix]

also if you have ABS your brakes pedal will say "Anti-Lock Brakes" on it, if you don't it will be blank

[1stpontiac]

Originally posted by DontPassTheFenc
lol! id love to mess around with a car that doesnt have abs, that is my idea of a good time, in the rain, at 2am, when no one is on the road. oh god, the times we could have


Rain for the non-ABS? Obviously from the south :lol: The other minnesotans and the canadians I'm sure were thinking of the ice-slicked roads of December.

Turn into a corner, pull the e-brake, its so smooth its like ballet.

At least until you hit the snowbank.

[RocketFast321]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Ditto. Anyone tha tknows how to properly control a vehicle without panicing does not need abs and can typical stop shorter than those with abs.

And that's not me. :) ABS save my but many times. It really sucks how gm got cheap on the 2002+ grand ams :(

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

Isn't there a way to defeat abs? I know my friend's mom had a '99 Mercury Mistique that if you did a special sequence with the brake pedal every time you started the car, it would disable the abs system. I wouldn't do it because abs is the one driver aid I like but every time I turn on the car I turn of the ETS.

It's really stupid the way GM made abs/traction control an option like that, it's been standard since when? The mid '90s or earlier? I should definately think it would be standard on any V-6 GA, come on, you guys have all that, that...what's it called? Oh yea, torque!! :lol:

[the doors lock]

defeating the abs is simple.. there is a sensor connection that goes to each wheel, just unplug one of them. without all 4 connections, abs will disable itself

[sunrunner_pei]

Unfortunatly that will present an annoying ABS warning light on the dash. But it will effectivly disable ABS. :)

[jayhawk]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Ditto. Anyone tha tknows how to properly control a vehicle without panicing does not need abs and can typical stop shorter than those with abs.

:agree2: :thumbup2: