How to get to 200hp

[HaZarD SFD]

What is the Cheepest way to get to 200hp.. ?

[doobiess]

nitrous

[Baundy06]

Sad, but true. But NA... CAI, exhaust, PCM... hell, ask the guys who know what they are talking about.

[VanishingImage]

no cheap way to get more power. Start out with exhaust,Cold Air Intake, new ECU(DHP makes one for the 3400) bigger throttle body,headers(The Other Guys makes some for the 3.4) that should put you at or even a little over 200. I belive the 3.4 has 175hp stock? Exhaust,intake and headers can put out about 25-30hp so that would put you right at 200 then theres Nitrous as well

[Big Joe]

I wish i had 200hp

[litdevil316]

i should be at or above 200crank when all is said and done with my car. but thats 2.4 with head p/p, cams, .020over and a custom made header, plus whats on it now listed below. thats when it gets down, still waiting on the header back home.

[Brandon]

*working on gettting mine there* still trying to figure out if i need a new maf for the cai i am getting or not*

[litdevil316]

i dunno. it should work, but you might have fit-ment issues. unless the cai was made for the car. but i dont see why a new larger MAF wouldnt be a good idea if ya can.

[Pte Socks]

Ok, 200Hp at what the wheels or crank? Even a simple thing such as exhaust and a CAI will net about 195 hp at the crank ( exhaust is 12 WHP and the CAI is roughly 5 ). TO get that at the wheels is much harder.

[litdevil316]

yea. 200crank shouldnt be too hard for you 3400 boys. full exhaust(headers and cat back and maybe hi-flo cat) withthe intake should help yea get pretty close to 200crank.

[HaZarD SFD]

I am thinking about a NOS kit.. about how much do they cost and how hard is install...... why not.. im makin a custom 2.5-3" exhaust when my dad gets his pipe bender... dual pipes from headers back... then i just need to get a couple of import mufflers on each one and BAM .. 1 of a kind exhaust.. that I will sell to ppl if ppl want it

[GE OTTO]

Well my way to 200 hp is better flowing intake/exhaust manifold, new p/p head denso iridium plugs and that stage 3 tubro kit from cav extreme at 9 psi with an inter cooler

[MJE95GAGT]

Originally posted by HaZarD SFD
im makin a custom 2.5-3" exhaust when my dad gets his pipe bender... dual pipes from headers back... then i just need to get a couple of import mufflers on each one and BAM .. 1 of a kind exhaust.. that I will sell to ppl if ppl want it

With that set up you will be making it even harder to get 200whp :P TDs are a waste on a GA, let alone with that big of piping. If you really wanted to do it I would suggest 2", that is about equivalent to a 3" single which is also too big NA but I know of people who have run that on their GAs and havent lost too much. If you plan on using the nitrous a lot then you could benefit from 2" TDs, otherwise you will lose hp. But like I stated earlier, TDs are a waste on this transverse-mounted low output V6. You will benefit much more from a single 2.5" if going NA or on a little spray, especially if you have headers because their outlets are 2.5" as well. 3" will probably gain a few ponies on the juice but for daily driving you will be lacking down low.

[doobiess]

NOS can be installed by yourself if your a fairly competent person.. can be done in a day.. a 50hp shot should take no prob.. 75 is pushing it.. but i have heard or someone doing 100 hp shot on a stock 3.1 not 3100... and in canada you can get the whole kit and hardware under 1k

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by litdevil316
but i dont see why a new larger MAF wouldnt be a good idea if ya can. It doesn't really need a larger MAF unless the motor has some decent work done to it already like Port N Polish, forced induction, etc THe MAF is large enough for larger V6 and V8 motors it should work fine for the 3400 up to a certain point.

[Pte Socks]

Yea, thankfully I think Gm thought ahead in terms of the MAF on the GA. Hell even the Tb is a half decent size compared to some ive seen. The real bottlenecks I find are in the exhaust. A simple cat-back or headers or both can really improve your power.

[litdevil316]

still waiting on my damn header.....

[btizzell]

Quickest way is nitrous. cheap and u get instant gainz. bank account doesn't like the refilling constantly though. just be careful wit it or u will have the illest piston fireworks in your town

[99blackSE]

Originally posted by Neo-Blue99GASE
Ok, 200Hp at what the wheels or crank? Even a simple thing such as exhaust and a CAI will net about 195 hp at the crank ( exhaust is 12 WHP and the CAI is roughly 5 ). TO get that at the wheels is much harder.

Ya i had 200 hp @ the crank with exhaust and intake...
Wheels was much lower = \

[Fastlanev6]

has anyone ever flowbenched a MAF sensor for a GA? I'll have to see if SappySE1O7 on 60degreev6.com has done it. It'll be interesting to know exactly at what point a larger MAF would be beneficial.

[litdevil316]

Originally posted by litdevil316
still waiting on my damn header.....


well, car is done. need a dyno, but it sould be about 200-220 and the crank. guy doin the work said he drove it around and that its running nice as hell. now i jus gotta get the work paid for and get the car to me so i can take it to the track. high 14's should be nice. details of the work on my cardomain.

[Ridenour]

Originally posted by Fastlanev6
has anyone ever flowbenched a MAF sensor for a GA? I'll have to see if SappySE1O7 on 60degreev6.com has done it. It'll be interesting to know exactly at what point a larger MAF would be beneficial.

11,500 mhz is the max flow for the stock MAF.

[Fastlanev6]

nice...thanks for that. what's the stock flow? Can you turn that info cfm's?

[Ridenour]

No problem. Not sure what that translates into CFM's. Just picked it up off of another GA forum. One of the techier guys might know how it translates. But from what they were saying, it's a lot, and it's hard to out-flow unless you're decently boosted.

[AleroGL]

Originally posted by HaZarD SFD
What is the Cheepest way to get to 200hp.. ?

and to keep the fuel economy and the softness of the engine...?

swap a 3500sfi :D

[loud2kse]

My 2.4 is boosted and has prolly almost 200 whp, and I get great mileage. As long as I don't get on the boost a lot, it's as good or better than stock.
but I do have to run premium.

[AleroGL]

Originally posted by loud2kse
My 2.4 is boosted and has prolly almost 200 whp, and I get great mileage. As long as I don't get on the boost a lot, it's as good or better than stock.
but I do have to run premium.

damn... and the premium gas here is more than 5.50$/gal :mad:

[loud2kse]

holy crap. I thought $2.70/gal was a lot.

[99GrandAMSE]

Originally posted by AleroGL
damn... and the premium gas here is more than 5.50$/gal :mad:

... I think you might of gone the wrong way when converting (at least I hope so as that is extremely high) ... anyway, here in Nova Scotia we pay $1.129 CDN per litre for regular (works out to $3.17 US per gallon approximately) and $1.189 per litre for supreme (works out to $3.34 US per gallon approximately) :tears: ... just went up $0.05 today and when you add that to the $0.05 last week and a couple weeks before that, you get a BUNCH of anoyed Nova Scotians :pissed2:

[AleroGL]

ooops... I was thinking that 1 gallon was 4,54litres?

the regular here is at 1.189$can and I don't know for supreme but it's more than 1.20$ can !!!!!

[xonelith]

Originally posted by 99grandamse
... I think you might of gone the wrong way when converting (at least I hope so as that is extremely high) ... anyway, here in Nova Scotia we pay $1.129 CDN per litre for regular (works out to $3.17 US per gallon approximately) and $1.189 per litre for supreme (works out to $3.34 US per gallon approximately) :tears: ... just went up $0.05 today and when you add that to the $0.05 last week and a couple weeks before that, you get a BUNCH of anoyed Nova Scotians :pissed2:

Wow, maybe I shouldn't complain so much...... 1.02 here in TO (Sunoco Ultra 94 is around 1.16 per litre:{ required for me). Seems you got it worse than I do!!

[litdevil316]

damn, makes me kinda scared to see what kinda gas mileage i'm gonna be getting on my car now, with the work down to it. tho i havent up'ed the fuel system yet on it.

[ChevelleSSLS6]

hmmm, swap in a 3800SC?\

And if that's not enough, swap a smaller SC pulley, chip, headers, etc.:D :D