Saturn Sky is a Vauhall VX220?

[invaderzim624]

I was watching topgear last night, and they were talking about the Vauxhall VX220 and were absolutely loving it. 0-60 in 4 seconds, good stuff. At the end of the segment, they said that the VX220 would be coming out in a front mounted engine version in the US called the "Saturn Sky".

The Sky is built on the Solstice platform. But if the VX220 is the US version of the Sky and the loved the 220, then that can only mean good things for the coming Sky.

Saturn Sky
http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-11857-223601-2029/Saturn%20Sky.jpg

Vauxhall VX220
http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Vauxhall/911442577.jpg

[urweak]

thats GM, us the same platform for like 5 different cars and name it different things.

[Gimli]

Originally posted by urweak
thats GM, us the same platform for like 5 different cars and name it different things.

Correction, that's every major car manufacturer out there...

[Rayz]

Quoted from article
link (.[URL=URL=http://cars.about.com/cs/automakers/a/Kappa_platform.htm)

Thanks to GM we can now show you the real thing during its development phase (photo below). This is a brand new platform known as "Kappa," which had its origins in the Pontiac Solstice concept of two years ago. In order to make a business case for the huge cost of developing the Solstice, an inexpensive, low volume (by GM standards) 2-seat sports car, the company decided to create a platform that could be used for at least three -- and possibly more -- vehicles.

The Kappa was revealed in media presentations at the 2004 Detroit Auto Show, actually driven onto the stage as a Solstice development mule by GM's car czar Bob Lutz. He then proceeded to startle and amaze the 6500 assembled journalists by unveiling two more cars to be built on the same platform, one by America's Saturn, the other from England's Vauxhall

[Themeneea]

i love it

[Dexman1349]

Is it just me, or does the Vauxhall look almost identical to the Opel speedster?

I'm clueless on Euro cars. They all start to look the same after a while.

[urweak]

Originally posted by Dexman1349
Is it just me, or does the Vauxhall look almost identical to the Opel speedster?

I'm clueless on Euro cars. They all start to look the same after a while.

opel is another branch of GM

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

yea, they're the same car, vauxhall is the british version of opel, i didn't know about Kappa being shared with the european mid-engine cars though

[Mike Reyna]

The heck with Saturn. Bring some of the Vauxhall & Opel cars over here!!!!!!!!!!


I would love to have an Opel Astra GTC. I love this car, along with lots of Euro cars. :gravey:

[Prospeeder]

not as bad as ford, they have the EXACT same cars, all for all, just different grills on like half there line up, for Ford Linclon and Mercury

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Gimli
Correction, that's every major car manufacturer out there...
:agree:
Can't just single GM out, look how many Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars where built in the Fox Chassis back in the 70's, 80's and 90s.

[Riley1123d]

mmm, ba da ba ba baaaaaaa i'm lovin it!

[invaderzim624]

Originally posted by Prospeeder
not as bad as ford, they have the EXACT same cars, all for all, just different grills on like half there line up, for Ford Linclon and Mercury

Well same with GM's Chevy and GMC trucks. The S-10 and Sonoma are identical.

[Rayz]

The Vauxhall VX220 is on built on the lotus Elise platform

[RickHigginsHtbr]

Originally posted by Mike Reyna
The heck with Saturn. Bring some of the Vauxhall & Opel cars over here!!!!!!!!!!


I would love to have an Opel Astra GTC. I love this car, along with lots of Euro cars. :gravey:

It wouldnt suprise me if that's built on the same platform as the Vibe...

[Mike Reyna]

Originally posted by xxkewlguyxx
It wouldnt suprise me if that's built on the same platform as the Vibe...


Ummm no it's not. It's the delta platform. The vibe/matrix is based on the Toyota Corolla platform. :)

[RickHigginsHtbr]

Wait a minute... The Vibe is built on a Toyota platform?!?!?!? WTF?

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

oh yea, it's all toyota, the architecture the 1.8L engine, i'm not sure who made the awd system, but i'm pretty sure the only thing pontiac is the exterior styling and parts of the interior

and something that might piss you off more is the Saturn VUE is Honda powered!! it's all so crazy

Originally posted by Rayz
The Vauxhall VX220 is on built on the lotus Elise platform

That's what i thought, but it's the last generation europe-only elise right?

[RickHigginsHtbr]

:jenny:

And do any of these companies use anything GM?

[Rayz]

Originally posted by DoubleOZeroGAse


That's what i thought, but it's the last generation europe-only elise right?

My understanding is that there is only one generation of Elise's
it just took about 5 years to get in into the U.S.

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

i thought the new one was an all new model because they had to make the architecture comply with us safety standards (stupid airbags and 5mph bumpers) and i know the engine is completely different, they used to use a rover engine but now it's toyota's celica motor massaged to 190hp

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by xxkewlguyxx
:jenny:

And do any of these companies use anything GM?
Yes in Japan the Cavilier had Toyota badges on it, Izusu uses GM S-Series truck for thier 'Hombre'" or whatever its called.

[Gimli]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Yes in Japan the Cavilier had Toyota badges on it, Izusu uses GM S-Series truck for thier 'Hombre'" or whatever its called.

Plus Honda uses GM's OnStar service on the MDX.

[SilverGA2001]

I think Lexus used Onstar too, I'm not sure if they still do though. They didn't call it Onstar in their cars though, they renamed it Lexus Link.


BMW gets transmissions from GM. :)

[Rayz]

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
I think Lexus used Onstar too, I'm not sure if they still do though. They didn't call it Onstar in their cars though, they renamed it Lexus Link.

FYI the following non-GM car were available with on star in 2005

Audi
Acura
Isuzu
Volkswagon

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by Rayz
FYI the following non-GM car were available with on star in 2005

Audi
Acura
Isuzu
Volkswagon


Guess Lexus isn't using it anymore then. Kind of wondered since I hadn't heard anything about it in awhile.

[Branderson]

Originally posted by DoubleOZeroGAse
i thought the new one was an all new model because they had to make the architecture comply with us safety standards (stupid airbags and 5mph bumpers) and i know the engine is completely different, they used to use a rover engine but now it's toyota's celica motor massaged to 190hp

Since someone was talking about the Vibe, thats the same motor thats in the Vibe GT, except 180hp.

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

that's right, and the corolla xrs (at 170 hp) as well, but Lotus engineers also managed to pull some much needed torque out of that raspy little motor

[VanishingImage]

Originally posted by Rayz
The Vauxhall VX220 is on built on the lotus Elise platform

I knew it didn't really look like the Sky,looks more like a MR2 Spyder or the Lotus Elise