A dozen new photos...

[Y2KGAGT]

Ok we haven't really done anything new, but we were looking for a photo to submit for the calender and noticed we didn't have anything current.

So we went out and snapped some.

It was a rushed decision and we didnt have time to wax it or anything fancy but there are several we really like. So to help us make up our mind and let us know which one we should submit.

#1
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt040.jpg

#2
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt041.jpg

#3
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt042.jpg

#4
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt043.jpg

#5
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt044.jpg

#6
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt045.jpg

#7
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt046.jpg

#8
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt047.jpg

#9
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt048.jpg

#10
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt049.jpg

#11
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt050.jpg

#12
http://www.clubecm.com/gagt051.jpg

[92CamaroRS]

hmmm. i like the one with the red X:P :D

[TA^Guy]

Only one I see a red x for is the first one...

Maybe I'll edit it and add the URL so you can just click on it.

I told her to get Photobucket but she insisted on using crappy webshots. lol

[92CamaroRS]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Only one I see a red x for is the first one...

Maybe I'll edit it and add the URL so you can just click on it.

I told her to get Photobucket but she insisted on using crappy webshots. lol

none show up for me:(

Always the womans fault right John?:D :lol:

[nice96gt]

doesn't work for me either :idunno:

[TA^Guy]

Well I just uploaded them to my site, now they work. :P

[Chain]

That was easy 3 with out a doubt.....

[rabidpanda69]

:lol: If I did these calendars, every shot would be really low front end shot.

[92CamaroRS]

#9!

[bt8705]

I like #3

[XoticGA]

3 :woohoo:

[mrjoecanadian]

#9

Nice ride just to bad it isn't white :lol:

[sunrunner_pei]

#3 all the way

[MonteGAGTgirl]

#3 :woohoo:

[carfreak666]

I like #2.... nice looking car :)

[99GrandAMSE]

... looks like the 3s have it :lol:

[mrjoecanadian]

yea I think #3 does have it

[shadesofnight]

The lighting is a little too harsh on the majority.

Next time you take a go at it, keep a close eye on how the sun is hitting your car. Maybe start shooting a day a bit more cloudy or just pick a better spot. I dunno about this "not waxed" business, car looks spectacular. Needs some tire shine but Im sure youre aware. If youre just using this as a test run for angles, thats cool, Im just offering advice.

I'll say number 3, but it would have looked better with the lights off.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by shadesofnight
The lighting is a little too harsh on the majority.

Next time you take a go at it, keep a close eye on how the sun is hitting your car. Maybe start shooting a day a bit more cloudy or just pick a better spot. I dunno about this "not waxed" business, car looks spectacular. Needs some tire shine but Im sure youre aware. If youre just using this as a test run for angles, thats cool, Im just offering advice.

I'll say number 3, but it would have looked better with the lights off.
The lighting is harsh because it was late in the day and the sun was low (notice the long shadows). But for the most part many of the shots were done intentional with the dramatic lighting as it helps hi-light the body lines in a black car. Typical high noon lighting wouldn't be bad but it wouldn't provide the color or reflections I was looking for.

Just like this photo, http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/TAGuy/My%20Raven%20R1/r1-046.jpg
the low light helps show more dimension and shape due to the angles of the body reflecting the light. A day with a overcast, would make photographing a dark car almost worthless and not show the great shape of the subject.

As for the lights I actually walked back to the car and turned them on for the photo. Yeah I know, I do things outside of the box.

As stated it was a quick wash for new photos. No wax, no polished mirrors, no tire wet, and no armor all, detail spray or glass cleaner. It had water spots, was dusty and the wheels had brake dust on them. I had a 5 month old baby in the car waiting for me, so I dodn't spend alot of time on setting stuff up. I literally pulled up, jumped out, took a photo, jumped back in. All in all Im pleased with the quickie photos I took.
Thanks for the complements.

[Mimi04GA]

#3 for sure! ;)

[Bud8weiser]

I see I went with the majority and picked 3. Very nice pic. Good looking car. :thumbup2:

[Big Joe]

Well call me defferent. but I liked number 2 the best

[TheNewLMHDesign]

3 has my vote.

[99GrandAMSE]

Originally posted by Big Joe
Well call me defferent ...

You ARE different ;)

[shadesofnight]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
The lighting is harsh because it was late in the day and the sun was low (notice the long shadows). But for the most part many of the shots were done intentional with the dramatic lighting as it helps hi-light the body lines in a black car. Typical high noon lighting wouldn't be bad but it wouldn't provide the color or reflections I was looking for.

Just like this photo, http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/TAGuy/My%20Raven%20R1/r1-046.jpg
the low light helps show more dimension and shape due to the angles of the body reflecting the light. A day with a overcast, would make photographing a dark car almost worthless and not show the great shape of the subject.

As for the lights I actually walked back to the car and turned them on for the photo. Yeah I know, I do things outside of the box.


Well, I could intelligently justify taking a dump in the living room and call it "thinking outside the box", but most would recognize that Im simply nutty.

The lighting and angles work for the picture of your motorcycle, but in the GA shots, they simply do not. Im not sure why anyone would want to justify such harsh contrast and the idea of highlighting a car's wheel wells. I understand what youre trying to get across as far as getting the lines, curves, and dimensions of the car, but harsh lighting isnt the solution.

Are you trying to say that shots like these dont show off beautiful reflections and curves?

http://home.mchsi.com/~shadesofnight/full/080502.jpg

http://home.mchsi.com/~shadesofnight/full/080505.jpg

Im not claiming to be a pro, but I know what works and what doesnt. I think you have a beautiful car and I think it would be a shame if you didnt submit a great pic to do it justice!

[Y2KGAGT]

Originally posted by shadesofnight
Well, I could intelligently justify taking a dump in the living room and call it "thinking outside the box", but most would recognize that Im simply nutty.

The lighting and angles work for the picture of your motorcycle, but in the GA shots, they simply do not. Im not sure why anyone would want to justify such harsh contrast and the idea of highlighting a car's wheel wells. I understand what youre trying to get across as far as getting the lines, curves, and dimensions of the car, but harsh lighting isnt the solution....
:offtopic:

[TA^Guy]

Not saying your photos arent nice but one could pick them apart just as fast also.

Go back and read my very first thread as it states we just washed the car and grabbed the camera. My life is too busy to worry about the time of day I take quick snap shots.

Maybe someday when I have the time I'll get around to detailing it and worrying about the prefect photo but until then these will do.

If you don't like my 'harsh lighting' then too bad.

And I'm sorry I didn't have the same idea as you and decided to keep the headlights off for the photo. I guess I could have done the same thing every one else did and kept them off but why in gods name would I want to do that?

No wonder Trans Am sales slipped those last few years after they printed those advertisements with photos of a TA with it's headlights on. Geeez idiots.

Here I go 'taking a dump in the living room' again, I left the lights on in the photo of my truck too. God damn I must be some damned moron or something. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/TAGuy/Xtreme/xtreme02.jpg
Yeah I'm sure the lighting and all that is totallly wrong. Just no good, terrible, and incorrect. Oh well ask me if I care. If I wanted professional photography advise I would have asked for it. But to be honest I point, click and I'm done. When I need help I'll ask Mike or Don.

Impress me by photographing me passing you at nearly 190mph. lmao
I'm sorry I'm done arguing about such petty stuff like amature snapshot quality. Not only is it lame but pretty damn boring and whoring up my wife's thread.

Thank you drive through.

[SCGA1]

Picture #3 is clearly the best.:)

[MagusXIII]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
The lighting is harsh because it was late in the day and the sun was low (notice the long shadows). But for the most part many of the shots were done intentional with the dramatic lighting as it helps hi-light the body lines in a black car. Typical high noon lighting wouldn't be bad but it wouldn't provide the color or reflections I was looking for.
John, your typical high noon lighting, while nice and even, results in a photo with very little depth. It looks quite 2dimensional. Yet when you take an early morning/late afternoon to get the long shadows, dimensionality is much more present. Depth is much greater and the image has much more snap.

the low light helps show more dimension and shape due to the angles of the body reflecting the light. A day with a overcast, would make photographing a dark car almost worthless and not show the great shape of the subject.
John, overcast lighting will make very few cars look good. Without the specular highlights present from bright sun, a car just looks like smudged paint. The highlights are needed to bring out detail. It is no more than having a catchlight in a portrait.

Also, while overcast lighting may cut down on harsh shadows, it can actually cause more underexposures. If you are taking a photo of anything where there is a decent amount of white overcast sky, the camera's metering is going to see the bright white and cut back exposure. With a rich blue sky, the exposure will be more accurate. Since blue skies are darker than white overcast, the meter is going to give you the proper exposure to balance out the skies with the ground. Granted modern metering systems will break apart the scene into multiple zones and average all zones together. But if you have a higher percentage of bright white zones, you still will get a somewhat darker photo.

All in all Im pleased with the quickie photos I took.
Thanks for the complements.
You are welcome, John. I do wish to say though that a lot of the so-called 'harshness' is directly attributable to the limitations of the imaging sensor. Unless you get a top of the line pro DSLR such as the 7500 dollar Canon EOS-1Ds MkII, you are going to get higher contrast than print film. Print film can record a higher range of contrast than a digital sensor can record. So if the same photos were taken with film of your car, you would not have the burnt out highlights and hotspots that are common to digital images. Try taking a photo of a bride and groom where the groom has a black tux and the bride of course has her white dress. You will either have plenty of detail in the white dress and have no detail in the tux, or vice versa. With print film, more specifically pro portrait films, you WILL have detail in both the dress and the tux under harsh lighting.

[Mike Reyna]

John, bring your cars over here. I'll take some pics for ya bud! :thumbup2: :D

[RedFireUFO]

I like pic #3 :)

[RedFireUFO]

pffft wrong lighting??? hahaha did you see my pics?? I am sure I flunked the photography perfection rules too! I did exactly the same quickie wash and grab the camera thing.. and I think these pics of Leanne's GT turned out just great. ;)

the point of the GAOC calendars are not a photography contest, just to let the owners show off their gorgeous cars and have fun doing it.. and the end result is everyone else gets to enjoy staring at something much more entertaining than their walls.. bring it on I say..
sorry if I am off topic.. just my two cents ;)

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Mike Reyna
John, bring your cars over here. I'll take some pics for ya bud! :thumbup2: :D
Sounds good to me. However Don might be a bit closer. lol

[MagusXIII]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Sounds good to me. However Don might be a bit closer. lol
Not too mention that I also shoot a medium format camera Mikie. Nothing like a nice crisp 20x24 print gracing the wall in John and Leanne's home! :thumbup2:

[shadesofnight]

Magus, I really appreciated you elaborating on the whole photography issue, interesting stuff and you sound pretty knowledgable.

TA Guy, you took the comments a bit too personally. It was just my two cents, take it or leave it.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by MagusXIII
Not too mention that I also shoot a medium format camera Mikie. Nothing like a nice crisp 20x24 print gracing the wall in John and Leanne's home! :thumbup2:
For some odd reason I had this quick image in my head of a black back drop, some low lighting photograph of me nude laying on my Raven, my riding gloves covering my manhood all in black in white hanging in the office over the futon. lmao

[Mike Reyna]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
For some odd reason I had this quick image in my head of a black back drop, some low lighting photograph of me nude laying on my Raven, my riding gloves covering my manhood all in black in white hanging in the office over the futon. lmao


Your right John. Don would be a better candidate to take those photos. :lol: :finger2:


BTW # 3 has my vote. :)

[Abbaby]

I love the pink on the badges. If its red, Im sorry, looks pink to me. I want some kind of a light pink decal on the side of mine.

[Y2KGAGT]

Its purple :D But I do see in some pics it looks pink - pic 2 is the best shot of purple.

:lol:

[TA^Guy]

Yeah its reflective vinyl from Grafxwerks, with the flash it's hard to see the real color.

[MagusXIII]

Originally posted by shadesofnight
Magus, I really appreciated you elaborating on the whole photography issue, interesting stuff and you sound pretty knowledgable.
Thanks. I have been shooting now for 20 years, 16 of them seriously.

TA Guy, you took the comments a bit too personally. It was just my two cents, take it or leave it.
I got nothing really bad out of the initial comments, but admittedly, talking about 'taking a dump' is not going to go over very well, no?

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by MagusXIII
Thanks. I have been shooting now for 20 years, 16 of them seriously.
So was it the first four or these past four that you didnt take seriously? :lol:

[MagusXIII]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
So was it the first four or these past four that you didnt take seriously? :lol:
The first four. I just basically was jabbing at the shutter release only content to take a snapshot, not make a photograph.