Camaro Concept [Archive] - Grand Am Owners Club Forums

SilverGA2001

01-07-2006, 11:24 PM

Here's the one from Automobile Mag. this month.

http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_chevy_camaro_spied_f_445.jpg

http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_chevy_camaro_spied_r_445.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept/

In the mag, they claim to have gotten the pictures from the internet, so I haven't put much faith in them. If they were true to some degree or other, I overall like it. The wheels would never come out that big, the mirrors are screwy, and they need to pick a front end. I like the one on the right, driver side, I guess.

RickHigginsHtbr

01-07-2006, 11:35 PM

is it me, or does it just not look like a camaro?

92CamaroRS

01-07-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by RickHigginsHtbr
is it me, or does it just not look like a camaro?

not just you, the only thing that resembles camaro is the rear quarter area. i still don't believe that will be the next camaro, or that it will ever return.

ManktheTank19

01-07-2006, 11:48 PM

BRING BACK THE FIREBIRD :)

rabidpanda69

01-07-2006, 11:57 PM

I dont like that first one at all, the second one I dont mind, the back could use a little work tho

SilverGA2001

01-08-2006, 12:29 AM

With everything starting to look retro and done again, I'm hoping for something that doesn't look Camaro to be honest. That's why I do like the silver one to a degree. From the quarter shot, it hints slightly to what is, but it's totally different enough to be a new player in an overplayed field. I mean honestly with the Mustang being so retro, and now the Challenger being shown and obviously retro, I'd had to see GM just give up on any kind of creativity and cater to the retro crowd. I can handle subtle hints of retro, splashed with themes of modern, but to retro an entire car back to the glory days, to me is just disappointing. I'm ready for new and clean designs, with glimpses of the past pinched in here and there. :)

Edit* After looking at the Automobile version, I should say though that too much modern is bad. GM may be taking the Art and Science aproach too much here lately. It's great for Caddy, but this concept stirs XLR feelings in me, with a dash of C5 rear end chunk. Maybe round off the corners on the rear deck lid and quarters a bit to give it a smaller profile back there. And for some reason I feel like the trunk lid is smiling at the top with those corners.

RickHigginsHtbr

01-08-2006, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
And for some reason I feel like the trunk lid is smiling at the top with those corners.
More of an evil grin :D

I'm still really not liking that design... maybe if that design was kept, but make the tails look more like a 68 camaro and less like a C5.... no, i still wont like it.

92CamaroRS

01-08-2006, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
With everything starting to look retro and done again, I'm hoping for something that doesn't look Camaro to be honest. That's why I do like the silver one to a degree. From the quarter shot, it hints slightly to what is, but it's totally different enough to be a new player in an overplayed field. I mean honestly with the Mustang being so retro, and now the Challenger being shown and obviously retro, I'd had to see GM just give up on any kind of creativity and cater to the retro crowd. I can handle subtle hints of retro, splashed with themes of modern, but to retro an entire car back to the glory days, to me is just disappointing. I'm ready for new and clean designs, with glimpses of the past pinched in here and there. :)

Edit* After looking at the Automobile version, I should say though that too much modern is bad. GM may be taking the Art and Science aproach too much here lately. It's great for Caddy, but this concept stirs XLR feelings in me, with a dash of C5 rear end chunk. Maybe round off the corners on the rear deck lid and quarters a bit to give it a smaller profile back there. And for some reason I feel like the trunk lid is smiling at the top with those corners.

While i agree with the majority of what you said, i think if they are going to make a new camaro, it needs to look like a camaro, while it doesnt need to be retro, this one doesnt look like a camaro at all, except for the quarter panel area. it doenst look camaro at all, its too big for starters, but i digress, i still doubt that will be the next camaro

SilverGA2001

01-08-2006, 12:06 PM

I don't think it will be the next Camaro either, but I do think it's going to be a concept car, and may just stay as that. I honestly don't think GM has the corporate balls right now to do a good design right now. with the walls crumbling around them right now, their going to have to tighten up and focus on mainstream cars like Impalas and Malibus for awhile. The beancounters are in full swing right now trying to limit how much money the company is hemoraging, and spending a bunch for a trick Camaro isn't in the budget. I think that's why Chevy is preparing the Sting Ray concept too, it's a Kappa platform (Solstice, Sky, Opel/Vauxhall) that'll be fitted with either a 3.9 or a 3.6 V6. Same guy who manages Corvette is in charge of it, so I think it's more likely first then the Camaro. Already have a working platform, operational plant with capacity to spare, and it can be ready quickly.

jayhawk

01-08-2006, 12:55 PM

No on no....I have the REAL picture right here, to be debuted as the 2008 model. You may THINK its retro, but uh...its not.

Really.

http://www.gaspumpclassics.com/resources/mem_garages/cheverolet/1967_Camaro_001/1967_Camaro_001_01.jpg

Wow! What fresh styling for the 21st century!

03GT-SC/T

01-08-2006, 05:45 PM

Honestly, I really think that GM needs to bring back the Camaro and Firebird, I bet it would really boost sales, especially if they went retro with the design.

ManktheTank19

01-08-2006, 06:02 PM

Big Joe

01-08-2006, 06:21 PM

I dont like that model one bit.

SilverGA2001

01-08-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by 03GT-SC/T
Honestly, I really think that GM needs to bring back the Camaro and Firebird, I bet it would really boost sales, especially if they went retro with the design.

Yeah, it'd boost sales, by maybe 50,000-100,000 units a year, if they were lucky, which is pretty much no help overall to GM, other then giving Chevy (other then the Corvette) and Pontiac a flagship performance model. We're talking about cars that were terminated in part for low sales. Sure, there are many people out there that say they want the cars back. But would they buy? Is it worth the huge design costs for GM to build the car, enjoy a year of novelty success, and then watch sales start to sink again? It might stop their market share slide by a tenth of a percent, but I'm sure they'll lose ground somewhere else.

I'd much rather see them bring the cars back because they really want to and do it right, then because they simply can and rush something out to the market to compete with other retro designs.

Looking at it again today, both concepts actually, there is way too much emphasis on the side scoops. Too dished in, gawdy lines around them. Should bring the sides out flush, and keep the scoops as gills, like the older models.

VanishingImage

01-08-2006, 07:40 PM

Honestly I like it. I do think the front has some retro look. My dad owned a 67 Camaro,first year it came out. He even sees some retro look all around the car. The front grille is smaller and pointed but there is some classic look to it,the openess and the headlights to the outer parts,same as on the classic.

I do hope they bring back the Camaro because other then the GTO and Corvette,GM has no other sports car for under 30K that has some power and not a 4cyl

And hopefully by the time the Auto Show in 07 might have a better concept of it and hopefully change some minds

Subtle_Cynicism

01-09-2006, 05:16 AM

I read somewhere I found to be credible that GM announced that, while it may be plausable to bring back the Camaro eventually, they said that it is official that the Firebird/Trans Am name is gone for good.

Which really pisses me off because we all know that Firebirds and Trans Am's are twice the car Camaros are. Except third gen Firebirds, we don't talk about those.

GM makes some hot concept cars. If the G6 concept had went into effect rather than its ultimate delivery as a four door grocery getter like all the others, it would sell 100% better. Remember the G6 concept? Gorgeous.

GM seems to like to make great concepts, and then royally rape them into excelling at medeocrity. That is, with teh exception of the Solstice. Hopefully the don't F that up.

DontPassTheFence

01-09-2006, 07:14 AM

Haha, indeed, we dont ever speak of the 3rd gen firebird
It really pisses me off that Ive never owned a new Firebird/TA, and I have no chance of ever doing so... but there is always the Holden Monaro... er I mean, The Pontiac GTO :ontome:

I highly doubt this camaro will be made, its been myth-ed about for nearly 2 years... Forget it.

Subtle_Cynicism

01-09-2006, 08:34 AM

It'll probably be made...but it most likely won't look anything like that.

DontPassTheFence

01-09-2006, 09:20 AM

Yea, and won't live up to any of the expectations. Poor Camaro :/

92CamaroRS

01-09-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by DontPassTheFence
Haha, indeed, we dont ever speak of the 3rd gen firebird
It really pisses me off that Ive never owned a new Firebird/TA, and I have no chance of ever doing so... but there is always the Holden Monaro... er I mean, The Pontiac GTO :ontome:

I highly doubt this camaro will be made, its been myth-ed about for nearly 2 years... Forget it.

buy a builder bird, save one from being chopped!

TA^Guy

01-10-2006, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Subtle_Cynicism
Which really pisses me off because we all know that Firebirds and Trans Am's are twice the car Camaros are. Except third gen Firebirds, we don't talk about those.
Yes it's true that the ever since it was killed that there was no plans to ever bring back the Firebird. To be honest, I think the Solstice is taking it's place as Pontiac's flagship 'Sportscar'.

As for a Firebird being twice the car a Camaro is could be about the most idiotic statement I've heard yet this week. Don't worry, it's still only tuesday.

Your statement is so funny because for over two decades, or better stated, the last two generations nearly everything between a Camaro and Firebird are the same except for the sheet metal. Shoot, for 11 years the Firebird used Chevrolet motors before switching to corprate engines.
Originally posted by DontPassTheFence
Haha, indeed, we dont ever speak of the 3rd gen firebird

Whats so wrong with 3rd generation Firebirds? I'm sorry but a '89 TTA and '89-'92 Formula 350 WS6 is among one of my favorite cars and had plenty of grunt to back it up with 345ft/lbs of torque. Thats more than the LT1s and standard LS1 made and as much as the LS1 'Ram Air' cars made.

urweak

01-10-2006, 12:51 AM

http://ls1lt1.vidiac.com/Player.aspx?fileid=0A7279A8-0AF4-43E5-A4CB-C174CE5DCA0B

Whats this?!??!?!?!? :eek: :eek:

Subtle_Cynicism

01-10-2006, 02:39 AM

John, I just personally dont like how the third generation Firebird's looked. I think they were a little too much. The third gen Camaro was amazing compare dto the Firebird, but I really think the Firebird outshone the Camaro in the late years, ESPECIALLY between 98-02.

RickHigginsHtbr

01-10-2006, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Subtle_Cynicism
John, I just personally dont like how the third generation Firebird's looked. I think they were a little too much. The third gen Camaro was amazing compare dto the Firebird, but I really think the Firebird outshone the Camaro in the late years, ESPECIALLY between 98-02.

I would take any year 2nd gen T/A over any 2nd gen Camaro as well. Even though it would never happen, I would love to see a t/a with a shaker hood again.

ephiny526

01-10-2006, 08:05 AM

does it really matter how a car looks? shouldn't you be more concerned with performance? i'm not gonna buy a car cuz it looks pretty, i'm gonna buy one because of what it can do.

Y2KGAGT

01-10-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by urweak
http://ls1lt1.vidiac.com/Player.aspx?fileid=0A7279A8-0AF4-43E5-A4CB-C174CE5DCA0B

Whats this?!??!?!?!? :eek: :eek:

I LOVE IT!!!! Beautiful...

Originally posted by ephiny526
does it really matter how a car looks? shouldn't you be more concerned with performance? i'm not gonna buy a car cuz it looks pretty, i'm gonna buy one because of what it can do.

I know what you mean, though its funny how some people think. I know of people who HATE how the car drives and how it feels but because its a <<insert vehicle name here>> its good enough for them.

Though in my case I need it to look "pretty" AND have it drive nice.

SilverGA2001

01-10-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by urweak
http://ls1lt1.vidiac.com/Player.aspx?fileid=0A7279A8-0AF4-43E5-A4CB-C174CE5DCA0B

Whats this?!??!?!?!? :eek: :eek:

Hopefully it was just the music drowning it out, but it seems like there were about 3 people cheering the car on. :lol:

TA^Guy

01-10-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by ephiny526
does it really matter how a car looks? shouldn't you be more concerned with performance? i'm not gonna buy a car cuz it looks pretty, i'm gonna buy one because of what it can do. I'm sorry but for the most part I disagree.

The first thing that attracts you to a vehicle is it's looks.

If I go out to my driveway every day and I'm disgusted about how ugly my brand new car is, then I don't care how fast it is, I'm not going to drive it.

Obviously you didn't purchase a Grand Am because of it's over all performance alone. Because if you did there are other cars that can match it or even bet it in the same class.

04REDGT1

01-12-2006, 11:20 PM

I kinda of like it. The 1st pic that is. The pic of the Silver Camaro has a cracked front bumper! Seriously, the new Camaro looks more like the older version than the new GTO does.

Yes it's true that the ever since it was killed that there was no plans to ever bring back the Firebird. To be honest, I think the Solstice is taking it's place as Pontiac's flagship 'Sportscar'.

John, I know the Solstice is a roadster and all but what about the Goat?

Jeff

SilverGA2001

01-13-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by 04REDGT1
I kinda of like it. The 1st pic that is. The pic of the Silver Camaro has a cracked front bumper! Seriously, the new Camaro looks more like the older version than the new GTO does.

John, I know the Solstice is a roadster but what about the Goat?

Jeff

lol, the bumper isn't actually cracked. it's a composite of two possible designs that were put on to see which style was preferred. I've heard they actually did that, and didn't just photoshop it, but I don't know if it's true. Notice the two different style fog lights, and the different airdam curve.

04REDGT1

01-13-2006, 12:23 AM

Yes I know it's not cracked that's why I said seriously....Jeff

DontPassTheFence

01-13-2006, 01:16 AM

eh, other than the intense performance of the 'special' models for the 3rd gen Bird/TA, they dont appeal to me much; but thats just my age showing. To me the camaro was, overall, a better car those years. (why did they never shove a turbo into a camaro?) or if they did, how did I miss that one...

Anyways, if you look at all the other trans ams/birds (especially the last gen ws6s, and the 1980 'Fire-Am') they are most notable and just stand out to me. But the 3rd gen had their good times as well, knight rider, and the ws6 as you mentioned (the only way Id own a third gen is if it was black, that damn thing is HOT)

Actually, I have a 1:24 model sitting here of the special edition 02 WS6, with the crazy yellow paint, black accents, black wheels, and back 'birds on the ram air hood. Damn fine looking car :D

And on the topic of LT1; I dont much care for that engine since its glory days are behind it, and Im reminded of that everytime my friend races his Z28 down at Firebird Raceway (how fitting is that, LOL!) here in Phoenix. The engine sounds great, but he's just barely broken into the 12s with slicks, and he cant push anymore power out of it without some serious modification. Although the rear end is holding him back in that department as well, not just the LT1

04REDGT1

01-13-2006, 02:52 AM

Well since this thread is drifting towards favorite generation of GM's pony cars. I must say the 2nd generation of Camaro's and Tranny's are my favorite. I'd love to have a 73 split bumper Camaro or an 73 Trans Am 455 in white/blue stripe. I'd go with the 73 because it was the 1st year for unleaded gas.

Jeff

RickHigginsHtbr

01-13-2006, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by DontPassTheFence
eh, other than the intense performance of the 'special' models for the 3rd gen Bird/TA, they dont appeal to me much; but thats just my age showing. To me the camaro was, overall, a better car those years. (why did they never shove a turbo into a camaro?) or if they did, how did I miss that one...

Anyways, if you look at all the other trans ams/birds (especially the last gen ws6s, and the 1980 'Fire-Am') they are most notable and just stand out to me. But the 3rd gen had their good times as well, knight rider, and the ws6 as you mentioned (the only way Id own a third gen is if it was black, that damn thing is HOT)

Actually, I have a 1:24 model sitting here of the special edition 02 WS6, with the crazy yellow paint, black accents, black wheels, and back 'birds on the ram air hood. Damn fine looking car :D

And on the topic of LT1; I dont much care for that engine since its glory days are behind it, and Im reminded of that everytime my friend races his Z28 down at Firebird Raceway (how fitting is that, LOL!) here in Phoenix. The engine sounds great, but he's just barely broken into the 12s with slicks, and he cant push anymore power out of it without some serious modification. Although the rear end is holding him back in that department as well, not just the LT1

Weren't the fire am's in '75 or '76 as well as the can am's? Let us also not forget the oh-so desirable 'Macho T/A' :) I called Mecham once to try to get info on the 80 Macho Turbo's... I was debating for a while whether or not to turn my T/A into a Macho-Clone. Little did I know that I was actually talking to the legend himself, Dennis Mecham. Very nice guy who gave me tons of information on what they did to the Macho Turbo's.

TA^Guy

01-16-2006, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by 04REDGT1
I kinda of like it. The 1st pic that is. The pic of the Silver Camaro has a cracked front bumper! Seriously, the new Camaro looks more like the older version than the new GTO does.

John, I know the Solstice is a roadster and all but what about the Goat?

Jeff
Well I guess the GTO and Firebird are closer to the Solstice and Firebird compairson and neither one will ever fill it's shoes.

But I think as a 'sports'car image the Solstice will be fill the shoes as the GTO will fulfill the straight line Muscle car guys.

born4drivn

01-18-2006, 03:33 PM

I kinda like the new camaro, if you really look close in camparison to them, they do have some things alike. Anyway, no matter. Speaking of the GTO, that would only be the flagship car for the US. Us canadian aren't lucky enough to have those for some really stupid, stupid reason. And when I win my million's, LOL, I'm taking the 3 hour drive to Bangor Maine, and buying one.

born4drivn

01-18-2006, 03:34 PM

heres some pics to compare with

born4drivn

01-18-2006, 03:34 PM

and another

born4drivn

01-18-2006, 03:36 PM

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, pretty girl!!!!! lol

RedGrandTour

01-19-2006, 03:03 AM

That's what I've been waiting for!!!!! I wonder what GM is waiting for???? I think if it hit the streets now than Ford would have a problem and Dodge would make a thousand commercials reminding us that...... "it's a Hemi" . :lol:

03grandam

01-19-2006, 09:09 AM

While i like the look of the camaro concept, i would much rather see a retro '57 chevy.

khanley8604

01-25-2006, 04:40 PM

i agree with you all. i dont think that it resembles a camaro. i like the new challanger, that car is so nice looking. it looks a lot like the old ones too which makes it even better.

i think they should bring back the dodge dart or the ford falcon, or why not the chevy bel-air, since being retro and "creative" is the only thing seeming to save the automobile industry, haha.

SilverGA2001

02-06-2006, 10:46 PM

Was just flipping around the internet, came on a german blog. This isn't supposed to be a concept as far as I know, but maybe a artists rendition of next gen Camaro that they'd like to see. It's hard to know, because I don't speak German, and can't pick up the details, but I thought it was interesting nontheless.

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2005/09/05/impressie_bmw_z4_coupe_en_chev

Foxy

02-18-2006, 06:46 PM

Some pictures from the Chicago Auto Show (not mine):

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0062.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0063.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0054.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0058.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0056.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0061.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/MrFreeze/Chicago2006/images/IMG_0071.jpg

RickHigginsHtbr

02-18-2006, 08:29 PM

is it me, or do the headlights look like LED?

thegeswho3

02-19-2006, 04:12 PM

Motor trend seems to think that GM is seriouse about Chevy rear weel drive cars. They claim to have insider info thats points towards RWD Impala and Camaro by 2010. They also said that the next gen GTO is gone. They shut that project down.
Who knows how reliable Motor Trend is tho...

Prospeeder

02-19-2006, 05:38 PM

i love those tail lights, thats a nice looking car! Wow, im inpressed, way better than the nasty Dodges Charger and challenger, and i like it just as much as the new Stangs

99GrandAMSE

02-19-2006, 08:22 PM

... I like the Camaro but still not enough "retro" for my liking :( ... as far as the new Challenger goes, much better IMO :)

92CamaroRS

02-19-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by 99grandamse
... I like the Camaro but still not enough "retro" for my liking :( ... as far as the new Challenger goes, much better IMO :)

Yea, we'll, we know you arn't quite right in the head, so we'll let that slide:P

99GrandAMSE

02-19-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by 92CamaroRS
Yea, we'll, we know you arn't quite right in the head, so we'll let that slide:P

... at least I don't get excited at every corn field I see ;) :lol:

92CamaroRS

02-19-2006, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by 99grandamse
... at least I don't get excited at every corn field I see ;) :lol:

Atleast i embrace the color of my vehicles. rather than try to pawn them off as red or magenta! :D :P

*cough*they're purple and pink*cough*

99GrandAMSE

02-19-2006, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by 92CamaroRS
Atleast i embrace the color of my vehicles. rather than try to pawn them off as red or magenta! :D :P

*cough*they're purple and pink*cough*

I go by direct "paint names" bud so you can't blame me for how bad your eyes mistake pigment ;) :lol:

Bright Red and Molten Red ... see a pattern? ;) :lol: