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lt_paintballer
01-08-2006, 12:11 PM
Ok so my grand am sat this winter. Now im bringin her back out on the road but the thing is it wont start at night. I startd it up the other day let her run for 20 or so and everything was fine. So I take her to the gas station yesturday and for a little run and its all good. Now last night I go out and try to start her nuthing. It just keeps crankin and crankin no fire. So after checking my connnection and a whole lot of yelling at her I got her 2 start. She stayd running for like 30 seconds then died. I could not get her started back all night. I checkd the coils and I was not getting any spark from anyone of the 3 of em. Now I may have done it wrong I dont know. But anyway this moring I go out and she starts right up like a champ. Ive startd her ever hours for the last 3 and ever time she starts right up. Any ideas would greatly help. Thanx all Ken allso 93 ga SE 3.3

Grahamcracker
01-08-2006, 01:43 PM
I would have your ignition module tested they can cause intermitinent no start problems like you described.

rixGAphx
01-09-2006, 11:26 AM
If it sat for that long, the battery lost a lot of its charge.
It also lost a lot of its abiltiy to hold a charge.
Time to seriously look for a new battery.

Why??

When you go to start the engine, there are for things that need quite a bit of power:
* Starter motor (duh).
* Fuel pump.
* Computer.
* Ignition coils.
After the first three get their power, the ignition gets what's left.
If the battery is weak (or bad cables, see below), then there often isn't enough power for a hot enough spark.
At night, with or without headlights, you might not have had enough 'residual' power for ignition.
Or, the power available to the fuel pump was so low that it couldn't provide adequate pressure for good injection.

Overnight, the battery might have 'recovered' just enough to allow a good start.

Before you check/buy a new battery, service the battery cables.
Even the best new alternator and the bes new battery can't provide adequate power (volts and amps) if the connections are so dirty/corroded/loose that power doesn't flow thru them.
This will also quickly kill both the alt and the batt.
So, inspect/clean/repair/replace/tighten both ends of both cables.
Cut off the molded rubber boots from the battery connections, since water seeps thru them and corrodes the copper strands into useless powder. Replace with aftermarket slip-on boots that can be easily inspected in the future.
This *might* get you a few more months of life out of the present battery.

Hope this helps.
-Rick

PS:
If it's been a while (30k+ miles) since the plugs were changed, then servicing the plugs (remove/clean/gap) or replacing them will definitely improve engine-starting ability, as well as adding a bit of power and better milage.
Do NOT use fancy split-fires or other 'premium design' plugs; the GA engines actually run best on plain ol' AC Delco platinum plugs.
If the plug wires are over 5 years/60k old, replace them, too.

lt_paintballer
01-09-2006, 01:35 PM
the bat is brand new its out of my truck and its still doin it