Solstice GXP

[SilverGA2001]

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/l_182006201447.jpg

Shown at the Detroit Auto Show, unveiled at the LA show.


The GXP gets a direct-injection turbocharged and intercooled 2.0-liter engine that is expected to put out 260 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque. If that holds true, the engine will make more horsepower per liter (130) than any other GM production engine ever. The five-speed manual and the optional five-speed automatic carry over from the base Solstice as do the disc brakes. The extra hardware that the turbo engine requires adds about 100 pounds to the roadster, with Pontiac claiming a 0-to-60 time of less than 5.5 seconds.


More Here (http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_pontiac_solstice/)

[DontPassTheFence]

Hell yes, they gotta get that thing into production ASAP! woowowowowowo

[RickHigginsHtbr]

:bow2:
I definately need one of those.

[Brandon]

as soon as the grand am is paid off im going to get me one!

[urweak]

There was some talk on Q4F about this before it was anounced. An insider in the GM performance division said that there will be a turbo solstice, then there will be a turbo cobalt running the same setup. So look out for a 260hp cobalt.

[TA^Guy]

I'd love a Solstice. And as much as I'd like to have a drop top, I think a fixed roof coupe would be cooler.

[00gagt]

why do every pontiac have to have the same features like the back of this car has the GTO lower bumber

[Themeneea]

i hope they do it to the sky as well

[DoubleOZeroGAse]

I graduate college in '08, hopefully the coupe version of the Solstice will be out by then in a GXP version so I can buy myself a graduation present :D

[Subtle_Cynicism]

Yeah, they are doing it to the Sky as well.

However, they are sticking with Saturn "Tradition" and calling it the Sky Redline.

[thegeswho3]

Hot rides, i hope that GM can turbo an engine while keeping reliability tho. I cant realy think of any examples when they have??? If so, post me wrong.

Any who, the Cobalt SS has the N/A engine form the base solstice as an option now too, right? An SS with three levels of Vroom Vroom for under $30,000 (Mabe under $25,000). Sounds like the 60's blue print all over again.

[urweak]

Originally posted by thegeswho3
Hot rides, i hope that GM can turbo an engine while keeping reliability tho. I cant realy think of any examples when they have??? If so, post me wrong.

Any who, the Cobalt SS has the N/A engine form the base solstice as an option now too, right? An SS with three levels of Vroom Vroom for under $30,000 (Mabe under $25,000). Sounds like the 60's blue print all over again.

The motor they use in some saabs are a 2.0L turbo ecotec (and come with a 6speed).

Yes the cobalt SS has a 2.4L n/a motor making 170hp the cobalt SS supercharged has a 2.0L supercharged motor making 200hp (so when you say cobalt SS now it just means the N/A version)

[DontPassTheFence]

GM already proved to me that they can turbo a car without ****ing it up; case in point: the Grand Prix Turbo 3.1L, the turbo Trans Am, the saab (as mentioned above), the turbo sunbirds, the 6000s (or whatever number they were) and the 2.0L turbocharged Grand Am. All amazing vehicles, and thusly this Solstice will, too, be amazing, and it will follow in the tradition of blowing similarly classed Japanese vehicles out of the water :D

[RickHigginsHtbr]

Originally posted by thegeswho3
Hot rides, i hope that GM can turbo an engine while keeping reliability tho. I cant realy think of any examples when they have??? If so, post me wrong.

Any who, the Cobalt SS has the N/A engine form the base solstice as an option now too, right? An SS with three levels of Vroom Vroom for under $30,000 (Mabe under $25,000). Sounds like the 60's blue print all over again.

My Turbo 301, from what I hear back in the day, was a reliable engine as long as it was well maintained... most common problem = blown turbo, mostly from people not understanding that you cant mix a turbo w/ 10w40 oil.

[SilverGA2001]

Originally posted by urweak
The motor they use in some saabs are a 2.0L turbo ecotec (and come with a 6speed).

Yes the cobalt SS has a 2.4L n/a motor making 170hp the cobalt SS supercharged has a 2.0L supercharged motor making 200hp (so when you say cobalt SS now it just means the N/A version)


They noted that the Cobalt will eventually get the turbo engine as well. I forget what year they're calling for it to change though.

[urweak]

Originally posted by DontPassTheFence
GM already proved to me that they can turbo a car without ****ing it up; case in point: the Grand Prix Turbo 3.1L, the turbo Trans Am, the saab (as mentioned above), the turbo sunbirds, the 6000s (or whatever number they were) and the 2.0L turbocharged Grand Am. All amazing vehicles, and thusly this Solstice will, too, be amazing, and it will follow in the tradition of blowing similarly classed Japanese vehicles out of the water :D

Forgot the GN and GNX :lol: (althought i was just speaking in terms of 4 cylinder turboed motors.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by thegeswho3
Hot rides, i hope that GM can turbo an engine while keeping reliability tho. I cant realy think of any examples when they have??? If so, post me wrong.

Any who, the Cobalt SS has the N/A engine form the base solstice as an option now too, right? An SS with three levels of Vroom Vroom for under $30,000 (Mabe under $25,000). Sounds like the 60's blue print all over again.
GM Turbocharged 3.8 motors since for a entire decade from 1978 to 1987 in the Gbody cars.

Either way, GM has used forced induction in many applications over the years. In respect to reliability there is no difference in 8 psi of boost from a turbo or 8 psi from a blower.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by 00gagt
why do every pontiac have to have the same features like the back of this car has the GTO lower bumber
Its called 'Brand Identity'.

Compair vehicle from most any manufacture and you will notice the simulaities between them. BMW, Porsche, Mercury, Cadillac, ect.

[rabidpanda69]

:agree: Ever notice the front of pontiacs?

[urweak]

Originally posted by rabidpanda69
:agree: Ever notice the front of pontiacs?

:lol: LOL:lol: That shouldnt even have to be mentioned. If you never noticed the front grills, you shouldnt even be allowed to own one.

[thegeswho3]

GM already proved to me that they can turbo a car without ****ing it up; case in point: the Grand Prix Turbo 3.1L, the turbo Trans Am, the saab (as mentioned above), the turbo sunbirds, the 6000s (or whatever number they were) and the 2.0L turbocharged Grand Am. All amazing vehicles, and thusly this Solstice will, too, be amazing, and it will follow in the tradition of blowing similarly classed Japanese vehicles out of the water

Im not sure that i would consider all of those engines "reliable" to the standards of todays Ecotecs, but i have never owned one. Ive been told by my mechnic that he wont touch the sunbirds or 2.0 GAs because the turbo housing and oil feed werent set up very well and proved to be a constant problem, but thats just one opinion.

Some one mentioned the GNX. GM got it right there. All of their turbo motors have been great preformers, but that one was wicked and an easy fix/mod engine.

[DontPassTheFence]

I dont know how I forgot to include the mighty GNX :lol:
Lets hope the turbo ecotec doesnt end up like the Fiero, even though they should still be producing that car; they finally got it right in its last year of production then cut it :shake:

I still miss that car, and I want to own/drive one someday

[born4drivn]

Originally posted by thegeswho3
Im not sure that i would consider all of those engines "reliable" to the standards of todays Ecotecs, but i have never owned one. Ive been told by my mechnic that he wont touch the sunbirds or 2.0 GAs because the turbo housing and oil feed werent set up very well and proved to be a constant problem, but thats just one opinion.

Alot of mechanics say the same about the 2.3l and the 2.4l. I guess their just a pain in the ass engine to work on???

[DontPassTheFence]

Originally posted by born4drivn
Alot of mechanics say the same about the 2.3l and the 2.4l. I guess their just a pain in the ass engine to work on???

The 2.4L is an ass since the waterpump is inside the timing chain cover (atleast 20 bolts to get that thing off!)

And the 2.3L loved to overheat and blow headgaskets.
Also, the older 2.4L came with the subpar izusu transmission, thus leading to more reports of 'poor reliability'

But, ever since my brand new engine (its 1 year anniversary is almost here!) Ive had no problems what-so-ever with the car. If you treat the 2.4L and the 2.3L engines with care, and remember timely maintenance, they will love you forever.

[slowbird]

The Turbo 2.0L OHC motors that GM Made are Garbage. They were plagued with problems and were a constant headache to owners and mechanics everywhere.

I know....I owned two...and they both lasted 20,000kms.



Re: the Turbo Solstice...

I'd rather have the mallett one.

V8 Powered Solstice (http://www.mallettcars.com/solstice-conversion.htm)

Then you can add the more Powerful V8, Heads, Cam, or a Supercharger.

:eek:

EDIT: I realized someone posted this already.

[Prospeeder]

The Turbo 3.1 In my TGP isnt THAT reliable, for being 16 its doing good, but They have Cross over pipe problems thanks to GM making them all shitty, so a 425$ reman one from Jeff M that fixes the problem. Thats about it, i mean, the braking systems in the TGPs arnt too great, but really no wbody from that time With ABS had the issues.

The First Turbo Sunbirds sucked ass, the turbos wernt water cooled, so the turbos cracked and scalded and murdured the bearing pretty quickly, but iv herd not one good thing about the 2.0 Turbos in either, theres like 2 Turbo GA owners who are actually running properly.

The TTAs and GNX iv never herd problems, besides turbos and what not from people not maintaing them

6000's were NEVER turbo BTW!

I hope the Turbo Pontiacs come back, such a neat time when all but the Lemans, 6000, and Bonneville of pontiacs Lineup was turbocharged, Grand Am, Sunbird, Grand prix, Trans Am, more than half!

[slowbird]

Yea...if they put a Turbo on a good motor then I'm fine with it.

The 2.0L SOHC motor in general was terrible. Head gasket, and Connecting Rod failures.
How do we fix it? Ummm..Lets throw a Turbo on it and stuff 9psi into it.

:lol: GM cracks me up sometimes.

[99blackSE]

They have to make that thing.... they have to.
ECOTEC + boost... it is the poncho's destiny.
That is just awesome...