New mod Done :)

[CanadAM]

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/9836/imgp19654ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

all done. pounds hard. let me know what you guys think.

[birdhouse]

Is that the recommended size enclosure for that sub?? Seems a little big for a Refrence series of Inifinty... Otherwise, looks really clean man. Good job hiding the wires and such.

[CanadAM]

i just got a custom box... bestbuy did it blame them

[gicts]

Originally posted by CanadAM
i just got a custom box... bestbuy did it blame them :wow:

yea that does seem pretty big. Did you get the 'custom' box from Best Buy?

[nineteen88ga]

Thats way huge for that sub.....hope its at least ported to justify its size. The infinity Reference subs only need 1 cubic foot in a seald enclosure.

[CanadAM]

it is ported.

[CanadAM]

so would it pound harder in that box, or a sealed box thats alot smaller that, standard 10 inch sealed box

[gicts]

that's a 10 inch? My dual 10" box isn't that big

[Bjornboy81]

Originally posted by CanadAM
so would it pound harder in that box, or a sealed box thats alot smaller that, standard 10 inch sealed box It'll be louder in that box, but it'll be tighter in a small sealed box. It all depends on the type of music and listening preferance. :)

[dandragonrage]

Grab WinISD and see the difference yourself. http://www.linearteam.org/winisd.html

[tubpub11]

The settup is nice. Ported is always better if you know what you are doing... Best buy hmmmm no comment. do you know what the specs are for the box? Internal volume, port size, tuned frequency? i'm just wondering.

[dandragonrage]

Ported is NOT always better. It depends on the sub and your personal preference.

[Lash]

It's really dosen't look HUGE like you guys are making it to be. My ported box for my 10" is 2 cubes without sub and port displacements. I have another box that 1.35 cubes. You'd be amazed by how much louder the 2 cube box is....and the SQ is still pretty good too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Lash00/100_0045.jpg

[gicts]

:shock: wow now that is big

[Lash]

Is that the recommended size enclosure for that sub??

Alot of times mfg.'s will make the "recommended" sizes a little smaller so people will think they dont need a big box. It DOES NOT mean it sounds best or gets the loudest in that box.

[birdhouse]

I personally never said his box is huge, but your's is custom, isn't it Lash? His is just a pre-made box from Best Buy... If he wants to keep it that big, I suggest making his own or having a shop do it for him. He'll get much better sound.

[Lash]

Originally posted by birdhouse
I personally never said his box is huge, but your's is custom, isn't it Lash?

Yup...made by me. :) It all depends on what the box is tuned @ and a few other things. If it's tuned in the mid or low 30's...it probably sounds pretty good. but since it's a pre-fab...my guess is that it's tuned somewhere in the 40's...which really isn't a good choice for a daily sub. Maybe for SPL comps where SQ isnt a concern. I also wouldn't doubt if it was made of 5/8" particle board or ply. Also not good.


My next set-up will be one 15 in 4.5 cubes (in progress :cool: ).

[birdhouse]

DAMNNNNNN! Are you going to put the RE 15" in there??? I don't think you're going to have any hearing left after that bad daddy gets put in there!

[Lash]

Originally posted by birdhouse
DAMNNNNNN! Are you going to put the RE 15" in there???

I'm not saying till it's done and metered. :P

[birdhouse]

Hahahaha! The true car-audiophile! :P

[inferno]

my 12"l7 was in a 2.5cuft box

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/572000-572999/572147_74_full.jpg

[tommymcc]

i love RE, but i'm competing in SQ this year, otherwise i may have done a XXX or a couple of SX's

[matts]

i still wanting to put a 15" L7 in the same box i had my 18" in. just haven't had to money to spend on it. been spending it on furniture, house stuff, etc :(

[Lash]

Originally posted by tommymcc
i love RE, but i'm competing in SQ this year, otherwise i may have done a XXX or a couple of SX's

You do know that the XXX's will stomp the W3's inSQ...right? Even there SE series are VERY similar to the JL W6's. You cant even really tell the difference between the two.

['96GAGT]

My next set-up will be one 15 in 4.5 cubes (in progress :cool: ). [/B]

Does that mean you'll be selling that RE sub of yours!?

[airbornflght]

hmmm...about the sealed is better than ported....no, sealed boxes just have more room for error volume wise, and a ported box doesnt, but if a ported box is right on with volume and tuning, it will sound the exact same as a sealed box.

The difference is this, a sealed box is less effiecient than a ported box, therefore requires more power to get as loud. a ported box is more efficient, and requires less power to get to the same loudness, the most efficient box design is IB or infinite baffel, you will notice that as efficiency of the box goes up, the power handling goes down, so no one box is really better than another, but if your trying to get loud on little power, an IB box is the best. although, this is usually reserved for hometheater.

I'm putting a 15" AA arsenal in my car, 3.5 cubic feet, tuned to 23 hz. gonna feed it 843 watts rms via a mtx mxa8001.

[Lash]

^ Thats pretty low tuning. You're port length is gonna be crazy long with only 3.5 cubes...especially since when you tune that low you dont want massive amounts of port area.

[Lash]

Originally posted by '96GAGT
Does that mean you'll be selling that RE sub of yours!?

Nope...I'll never get rid of this thing. Best $130 I ever spent!!!!

[Lash]

hmmm...about the sealed is better than ported....no, sealed boxes just have more room for error volume wise, and a sealed box doesnt, but if a sealed box is right on with volume and tuning, it will sound the exact same as a sealed box

Huh :???:



:lol: :P

[inferno]

lol Lash i noticed that too

:lol:

[97gtwideout]

nice choice of subs, a friend of mine had 2 10s in his galant and it was rediclously loud hope u like them

[birdhouse]

Originally posted by airbornflght
hmmm...about the sealed is better than ported....no, sealed boxes just have more room for error volume wise, and a sealed box doesnt, but if a sealed box is right on with volume and tuning, it will sound the exact same as a sealed box.

The difference is this, a sealed box is less effiecient than a ported box, therefore requires more power to get as loud. a ported box is more efficient, and requires less power to get to the same loudness, the most efficient box design is IB or infinite baffel, you will notice that as efficiency of the box goes up, the power handling goes down, so no one box is really better than another, but if your trying to get loud on little power, an IB box is the best. although, this is usually reserved for hometheater

:???: :???: :???:

I'm confused as hell... :P

[magyver]

um.. whats so special about it? its a big box.. not sure why it is picture worthy.. other than a larger box, i wouldnt call it "custom".. prolly sound better in a prebuilt qlogic box and cost half as much.. but yeah, its a carpeted box.. not necessarly thread worthy,... but that is my opinon

[airbornflght]

I confused one of my ported and sealed. thats what you get when I get off of working 8 hours at kmart....that place makes you loose your mind, im going back and fixing the post.

EDIT: Lemme find the file for bass box pro, ive been talking to chad and they recomend 28 hz. I've been hashing out the design with him, but yeh the port length is pretty long. although, the design isnt in stone (mdf) yet. I'm still working it out, I may bump the tuning up 5 or so hertz. Trying to keep it as flat as possible, and trying to get f3 as far down as resonable.

REEDIT: Ah...its been like a month sice ive looked at my plans, just found a big A$S Prolem..../me opens up BBP6 and gets his calculator.

And I've learned this mantra: "You have to tune low to go low"

I dont want to tune high and have a one note wonder. The only thing I don't like about the arsenal is that the tinsel leads are integrated into the spider, which eliminates slap, but the leads will try and cut themselves out of the spider over time, but the sub should last a good 5+ years, which is all im looking for, I'll be just leaving college then. Then I'll be able to work on my grand am (if its still in one piece) and get some new stuff.

[Lash]

EDIT: Lemme find the file for bass box pro, ive been talking to chad and they recomend 28 hz.

Your last post you said 23hz....which is it? 28-30hz isn't so bad. Most people tune around that when they are looking for more SQ from their ported box. 23 is crazy low. I cant recall the last time I ever saw a box tuned that low.

[Lash]

Originally posted by magyver
um.. whats so special about it? ........ not necessarly thread worthy,... but that is my opinon

Why post then? lol

[Lash]

Originally posted by airbornflght
The only thing I don't like about the arsenal is that the tinsel leads are integrated into the spider, which eliminates slap, but the leads will try and cut themselves out of the spider over time,

I seriously wouldn't worry about that. I'd MUCH rather have them intergrated.

[airbornflght]

well, The 23hz must of been a result of a few late nights at 1 am at the computer....I jest looked and my port needed to be 545 inches long....Im taking it back to somewhere between 27-29 hz, dont ask me where that 23 hz came from.....maybe i was just looking at the response curves and thought..."oh, that looks nice" and didnt see the port length.

[airbornflght]

lash, what do you think about the RE subs, I thought about using them because of the group buy, and they look like great subs, but I wanted a sub with decent sq, and the re subs are more spl oriented. actually, im designing my entire car for sql. wont be the greatest, but should be respectable, just wish i could afford some signal processors.

I running one arsenal 15 and the arco componets, arsenal gonna get its juice from an mtx mxa 8001 and the componets from a US Amps I/S 2080. Just gotta get some deadening material and do the doors and trunk. Cant wait to finish it.