intake

[stunt101]

what year civic intake do u use for the 05s? i think this is the one i need.

http://acekogyo.com/TIC/KN2820/9295Civic.jpg

[prototypepacifi]

Mine looks a bit like that. I got mine at Auto Zone, and it was the only type they had.

[stunt101]

yeah thats exactly where i saw it at...it looks like itll fit but i wanted to make sure it fit before i got it...how does it sound with ur engine? i hear that these cars sound like mustangs with them.

[angrysk8r]

Originally posted by stunt101
how does it sound with ur engine? i hear that these cars sound like mustangs with them.

It actually will bring out quite a bit of engine sound that was muffled by the intake resonators....IDK about sounding like a mustang....may be a V6 mustang w/out exhaust modifications...

[stunt101]

oh thats good info...i can hear it in the engine that it sounds like it will have a nice sound once that air box and other stuff gets taken out...i may have to go pick me one up tomorrow.

[Tebore]

You'll get a sucking sound at around 2000-3000RPM when it you kick it up to 3000-4000 you get a real nice rumble.

If you have the radio up then it really doesn't matter. The sound isn't toooo tooo loud but it's there.

[stunt101]

i may even go to the muffler shop and see how much they would charge to make one cause i dont wanna pay 40 just for the intake then have to pay another 25 for the filter...and i dont wanna wait for shippin time from ebay...dunno we will see

[RedGrandAm2003]

Shipping time? Keep in mind, its still fairly cold out, and with a CAI, means your fan/heater wont be as warm, if it will at all lol

[Bjornboy81]

Originally posted by RedGrandAm2003
and with a CAI, means your fan/heater wont be as warm, if it will at all lol WTF???? how exactly will it affect you're fan/heater??? Please don't give false information ;)


Originally posted by RedGrandAm2003
Shipping time? Keep in mind, its still fairly cold out, You'll realized the gains of a CAI more when it's cold out...it amazing the difference in power gain when it's 32* out compared to 80* out. You use way more gas, but your lead foot will thank you :D

[RedGrandAm2003]

Uuuh... Sorry for being told from a bunch of people on these forums that it would mean the heater would make the air colder aswell. Dont f*in flip out dude. Christ.

[Bjornboy81]

Originally posted by RedGrandAm2003
Uuuh... Sorry for being told from a bunch of people on these forums that it would mean the heater would make the air colder aswell. Dont f*in flip out dude. Christ. Sorry if I came off as "flipping out", my bad. :) But I think you may have misunderstood. A CAI won't do that...a cooler t-stat may, but not a CAI :)

[Matt95GT]

What bunch of people was that? :???2:

[Tebore]

Originally posted by Bjornboy81
WTF???? how exactly will it affect you're fan/heater??? Please don't give false information ;)


You'll realized the gains of a CAI more when it's cold out...it amazing the difference in power gain when it's 32* out compared to 80* out. You use way more gas, but your lead foot will thank you :D

To an extent you'll get gain in power but if it's tooo cold (-30degree c) then you're just killing gas mileage because the car isn't able to reach op temp as quickly.

[RedGrandAm2003]

I dont know, it was back in april last year, I remember like 5 people told me and i was like "oh... i just wont use it in the winter" lol but ok, whatever.

[Tebore]

Originally posted by RedGrandAm2003
I dont know, it was back in april last year, I remember like 5 people told me and i was like "oh... i just wont use it in the winter" lol but ok, whatever.

There's a reason for that. Because in the winter time a CAI will cause you to run rich, you're dumping really cold air in there like ICE Cold which doesn't help the engine. There's a temp range that is optimal. Too hot or too cold is not good.

[JamaicaMeCrazy]

it's the same cold air coming in wether you have the stock air box or not, just more of it....you're gonna use more fuel no matter what the air temperature is anyway cuz the engine comp is gonna compensate for the increased air flow by adding more fuel to reach the optimal 14.1 to 1 air/fuel ratio

[RedGrandAm2003]

No no, I was specifically told that it made the air w/ the heater cold and i was like wtf myself but whatever.

[JamaicaMeCrazy]

oh yeah, was just sayin is all, i'm a nerd when it comes to the science of things like that :D

[Bjornboy81]

Originally posted by Tebore
There's a reason for that. Because in the winter time a CAI will cause you to run rich, you're dumping really cold air in there like ICE Cold which doesn't help the engine. There's a temp range that is optimal. Too hot or too cold is not good. You're engine won't run rich just because you're sucking in extremely cold air...if anything you'll run lean because you're pulling in very dense air (lots-o-oxygen moecules) and IAT will only allow the engine to compensate so much. BUT, the engine will neither run rich or lean, because the oxygen sensor will compensate for the rest. :)

[Tebore]

Originally posted by Bjornboy81
You're engine won't run rich just because you're sucking in extremely cold air...if anything you'll run lean because you're pulling in very dense air (lots-o-oxygen moecules) and IAT will only allow the engine to compensate so much. BUT, the engine will neither run rich or lean, because the oxygen sensor will compensate for the rest. :)

Hmm you might be right but I thought that the O2 doesn't get used until the car reaches a closed loop. I can't remember properly the car uses the MAF, IAT and O2 to control what to use, and I remember only 2 of the 3 get used to make the "guess" on how much fuel to use and it's usually more than needed.

I know my car and a lot of cars that run rich on a cold winter's morning for like the first few mins (1-3mins) then become fine.

[Matt95GT]

Doesn't matter... no intake will make enough difference to upset the A/F mix.

[Tebore]

^^ Alright.

Just a question tho. Myself along with other people with CAI living in cold areas have noticed that if you don't go back to the stock box or WAI would get lower gas mileage. Why is that? This isn't a smart alec remark I just like to know why. Because what I said earlier was the explaination I was told.

[Bjornboy81]

Cold air means denser air. Denser air means more oxygen in the cylinders. More air in the cylinders means more fuel delivered. More fuel delivered means more power, and less gas mileage. :)

[Matt95GT]

Originally posted by Bjornboy81
Cold air means denser air. Denser air means more oxygen in the cylinders. More air in the cylinders means more fuel delivered. More fuel delivered means more power, and less gas mileage. :)

It's a good theory, but air volume (and consequently fuel) is still throttled... in other words you'd simply have to press the pedal less and fuel economy would remain the same.

I don't experience a loss in the winter... so not completely sure. But... the 2.3/2.4 is speed-density using MAP only... no MAF. Since the MAF operates by sensing temp changes to tiny heated wires, my hunch is that the colder winter air throws off the reading and causes the PCM to richen the mix slightly.

[Tebore]

^^ Exactly not all the sensors are being use properly in the winter which is why I said too cold and too hot won't help. The temp read is one thing but the MAF says it's getting too much air so it tends to run rich. Trust me a lot of people noticed that it runs richer in the morning starts to even out when it warms up but it's still a tad rich.

If you have a new MAF and a calibrated computer then it won't matter since you would have a new maping for A/F.