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GreenGA98
03-28-2006, 04:18 PM
I have a chance to get my hands on some pyramid 12subs (not very powerful ones) but they are dirt cheap. I want to know if anybody has had pyramid subs before and if they were any good. Remember I just want some bass, not for my car to be bouncing. Also how powerful of an amp would I need for these subs and what kind. Let me know what you think bc I want to install subs and an amp ASAP.

DFizzle
03-28-2006, 06:39 PM
Pyramid would definitely be considered low end. If you're not looking to spend a lot of money and need an excuse to wire up your car, then that's your call. Keep in mind though that between the amp and wiring, you're going to most likely end up spending a fair amount of cash anyway, so I think you'll find most people will tell you to look into something a bit higher quality.

As far as amp recommendations, you'll need to give us more info on the subs. If you have an exact model number great, if not then the RMS wattage would be helpful and if they're 4ohm or 2ohm (though I assume they're 4). But, the bottom line is, and you'll hear this from everybody so don't get discouraged, but save your money, do plenty of research and be patient. It sucks to have to wait, but it sucks worse to plunk down a bunch of cash and then be disappointed. You've done well to post and ask, there are plenty of good opinions on this board, and others for that matter.

From my stand point, I'd wait and look into something different, but that's just me.

Here's a thread you might want to check out that ranks brand names and you'll find Pyramid didn't do very well.
the good, the bad and the ugly*brands that is* (http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42767)

inferno
03-28-2006, 07:49 PM
Personal experience: They suck. i bought the 12" imperial gold series and they dont hit hard so u wont be getting much bass out of them. and i actually blew one of em. save your money and get something better

GreenGA98
03-28-2006, 09:48 PM
Here's my situation though. I can buy the one pyramid for $20(the other one is busted and I get for free but it is really no use to me anyways) which is cheap for a starter sub(I have never had subs before).

I am getting the rest of the equipment out of a dealer catalog. The 2 channel amp(which is like 240 watts or something) is only $50. The wiring kit is $20. And I might be able to get a free box(if not I can buy one for $25 or $30).

So I will end up spending about $70-$100 without the one sub. But this $70 will get my car hooked up for any kind of subs. So would it be a good idea to get this sub(if it breaks I can buy a new one or set and I will alreay be set up for subs). Remember I am getting all of this installed for free bc my friend and I are doing it. Good idea or no?

'96GAGT
03-28-2006, 09:48 PM
Save teh monies man...

Chain
03-28-2006, 10:45 PM
Pyramid OMG they still make this crap.....

I remember going through those power booster EQ. LOL

300 watts baby with my Jensen tri's

gicts
03-28-2006, 11:29 PM
$20 for a wiring kit? What gauge wire? I might be the exception to everyone here but if it's good gauge wire (ie. 4) go ahead and do it. Get a better quality amp though. For a 16 year old starting to drive that ought to be enough bass. Lord knows we need noob drivers with subs that can be heard a mile away. Later on when you get bored loose the sub and you've still got your wires, box, and an amp for a good pair of speakers. Just my 2 cents. For $100 I would do it.

Shad0wguy
03-28-2006, 11:37 PM
I had purchased a pair of 10" Audiobahns with a ported enclosure for about $100 on ebay, and they sound great.

I say save a bit and get something better a little later.

DFizzle
03-29-2006, 12:30 AM
I'm with Ryan about the wire kit if it's a low gauge, even if it's 8 gauge that's still a good deal, but I'd definately look into a better amp if you decide to get the sub(s). You don't want to have to re-buy everything if the pyramid craps out right away or you get sick of it. Your call though. Have you listened to the sub? If it sounds decent to you and you think it'll give you the results you want then that's fine. I know how hard it is to look at the long term when you're presented with a "deal".

I'd also be careful getting a "pair" of subs when one of them is blown. The other one took the same abuse and it may have been pure luck that it hasn't gone yet.

SpecialFX
03-29-2006, 12:30 AM
If you do it, I recommend getting a wiring kit that will handle 2-3 times the power you are going to run. Bass turns into an addiction and you will want more, trust me. If you are running around 250W with that, then I would get an amp kit for like 800-1000W so that when you want to upgrade, your install is ten times easier and you have the kit that will handle a pretty big upgrade. Basically spend more now to save time and money later.

GreenGA98
03-29-2006, 03:44 PM
I have changed my mind(which I do alot) and decided to take all of yours' helpful advice. I am look at 2 12' Blaupunkt PCwb1200 with • Size: 12 inch
• Rec. Sealed Box Dims: not recommended
• Rec. Ported Box Dims: not recommended
• Free Air Usage: yes
• Sensitivity: 92 dB
• Frequency Response: 20-200 Hz
• Recommended RMS Power: 200W
• Peak Power Handling: 600W
• Impedance: 4 ohms subwoofer wiring options

and an amp that is Power Acoustik LT980/2
• Amplifier Type: 2-channel
• RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 220W x 2
• THD at 4-Ohm RMS Power: 0.02 %
• Bridged RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 560W x 1
• Speaker Level Inputs: No
• Preamp Outputs: Yes
• Built-In Crossovers: HP/LP
• Bass Boost: 0 - 24 dB
• Frequency Response: 10-30,000 Hz
• Signal to Noise Ratio: 98 dB

The subs are $32 each and the amp is $120. Are these good items and if so ,are the prices good? Remember I just want as lil bass not a hugh amount

birdhouse
03-29-2006, 04:36 PM
Mike... You have to realize something about car audio... The cheaper you go, the shittier it is... I guarantee that something is wrong with the subs within the first month you have them. Save for something good... Good entry level subs, that are relatively cheap, are the Alpine Type E series, or the S series. You can usually find those for like 2 for $99 for 10" for the E's, 2 for $119 for the 10" S's, or 2 for $119 for the 12" E's, or 2 for $149 for the 12" S's...

I don't like to see people spend money on something, then have to spend even more down the line because of shitty equipment...

gicts
03-29-2006, 04:55 PM
Do you have a HU? With audio it's true you get what you pay for. If I were you I'd get a nice HU and 4 ga wire. You say you want just a little bass which is cool. Ebay it all if you don't mind used and want to save $ but take a little risk w/e warranties. More than likely you'll get addicted and want more down the road so there isn't any reason to cheap out when it comes to HU and wiring. A little bass is a relative term, but why don't you just try 1 sub? here are a few things that might work
wire-$30 (http://cgi.ebay.com/4-AWG-GUAGE-CAR-AMPLIFIER-AMP-INSTALL-KIT-W-RCA-CABLES_W0QQitemZ9705301210QQcategoryZ71528QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem)
amp-$70 (http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-P-80-4-Car-Amplifier-MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ9704760714QQcategoryZ4950QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)
sub-$40+s/h (http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Alpine-Type-R-Dual-Voice-Coil-Subwoofer_W0QQitemZ9702543941QQcategoryZ3291QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem)
a setup like this something that I would spring for
$140 total, $40 over what you were originally thinking and it's quality stuff. Note: The prices are as I saw them online, they might be different now.

edit- I didn't realize that was a 4 channel amp, but you get the picture. There are deals to be made, even with quality products. Can't tell a good product from bad? check out this thread (http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42767&highlight=alpine+list)

GreenGA98
03-29-2006, 09:48 PM
I have a sweet head unit. Pioneer DEP-HP6700(something like that) and im not cheaping out on the amp, its just on sale. The subs for $32 each were originally $80 dollars each. I found the amp and subs on car domain. The amp had great reviews but their were none for the subs.
If I paid retail for this equipment it would be over $350 dollars. I heard good things about Blaupunkt subs and I don't consider them cheap. If anybody knows about them being bad, let me know. So with the subs and amp and wiring kit(i am getting a free box hopefully from my friend) it would be $220 before tax and shipping. So I already have the head unit to power this stuff.

gicts
03-29-2006, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by GreenGA98
So I already have the head unit to power this stuff. could you explain? You don't mean that you are going to be able to directly power your amp with your HU do you? Also please realize that while you aren't 'cheaping out' you also aren't getting the best quality that you can get

GreenGA98
03-29-2006, 10:01 PM
no. I just mean i have a head unit that is capiable of having subs and an amp hooked up to it(aka its not stock). Are Blaupunkt subs any good(i looked at the good,bad,ugly)? Im just wondering what you heard about Blaupunkt subs. Power Acoustic was rated as a bad brand(by the list) but out of 16 reviews on car domain they were all good for that type of amp. I don't want to spend over $250 on a 2 subs, an amp, and a wiring kit combined. Advice?

gicts
03-29-2006, 10:30 PM
whoops double post

gicts
03-29-2006, 10:31 PM
could it be that the people that rated PA are only comparing it to their stock system? If I didn't have much experience or heard anything else.... It's also about quality.Will they perform as long or as well? Can't get that with many reviews. Sure it's been said on here before, check out stuff in the stores, find out what you want and bargin shop if you want

birdhouse
03-29-2006, 10:36 PM
That's exactly what it is...

Listen man... It comes down to this. Blankwhatever doesn't make good car audio, period. I don't like their HU's and their speakers are junk. I didn't even know they made subs until I saw your post, so right there that should tell you that it's not a good thing to buy...

Ordering online before actually HEARING what you're going to buy is like flipping a coin... You might get lucky and get some really banging stuff, but on the other hand (and what I pretty much know is going to happen) you might get stuff that just plain sucks.

Oh, and the reason online stores can say that they have something on "sale" like that is because they list the MSRP and then put THEIR price as the "sale" price. Sometimes you actually really do get good prices online for stuff, but look at the specs for your sub! It wants a FREE AIR enclosure! It says, "Do Not Recommend" for sealed and ported... I dunno...

I guess you can do what you want with the money you have at hand now. I know what it's like to be young and just entering the car audio scene, but listen to someone who did the same thing you're about to... It sounds good for the first week, then you start noticing little things going wrong the second, and by the end of the first month, the only thing working is your HU...

Oh, and you don't HAVE to buy 2 subs... Get one 12" Alpine Type E or the entry level JL, or the entry level RE, or even the freaking 12" Infinity Reference series... These are all subs that can be found for under $100 by themselves. Then get yourself a nice mono-block amp pushing like 300-500 RMS. Hook it up in a box built to specs., and you have yourself a system.

DFizzle
03-29-2006, 11:10 PM
Again, I want to say you've done the right thing in posting here and asking questions, and it sounds like you're willing to listen to what we have to say, which is more than I can say for a lot of people. The thing is, almost all of the products you've mentioned would be considered low end, I don't think you're going to find anyone who'll give you a shining review of any of those products. A good point was made about online reviews in that people tend to do them right after they get their equipment and don't bother to check to see if it lasts. It's true that you get what you pay for, but it's also true that deals can be found. I've had great luck with ebay (I buy all new products, not used) and built my whole system from there (other than my deck). You don't have to take my advice by any means but I'm running a single Alpine Type S off a Pioneer amp pushing just over 300 watts RMS at 2ohms with it turned down a bit (see my cardomain below). I went from two pretty crappy Pioneer 12s to the single Type S 12 and it's like night and day, so don't by any means rule out one sub as an option. For the price of two crappy subs, you can easily get one decent sub that will sound better. Here are a couple of links:

Sub (http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-2006-ALPINE-SWS-1242D-12-TYPE-S-SUBWOOFER_W0QQitemZ9703012884QQcategoryZ18803QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) - New Alpine type S 12 for $84.00 including shipping (this is the same seller I got my sub from)
Amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-GM-7150M-800WATT-MONO-CHANNEL-CAR-AMP-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ9704297936QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem) - New Pioneer Premier GM7150 (basically the same amp I'm running but the Premier version) about $122.00 including shipping.

So, it comes out to about the same amount of cash as you would have spent on the Blaupunkt subs and the amp you were looking at. I know it's hard to look at one sub and say it'll be just as good if not better than two, but trust us about the quality and durability. Again though, it's all up to you.

CanadAM
03-29-2006, 11:50 PM
dude, ebays your friend this sub alone will beet those 2 bleaufaunt ones...


http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-Kicker-12-COMP-VR-05CVR124-BAD-ASS-Sub-solo_W0QQitemZ9704875172QQcategoryZ39777QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

CanadAM
03-29-2006, 11:51 PM
wow sorry for the double post but


http://cgi.ebay.com/MA-AUDIO-MA112B-LOADED-CUSTOM-BANDPASS-12-SUB-ENCLOSURE_W0QQitemZ9703439603QQcategoryZ18803QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


just buy that

birdhouse
03-30-2006, 12:23 AM
MA Audio isn't good... Just please, please listen to our recommendations. I've thrown some out, Derek's thrown some out... I'm not saying that you don't know anything about car audio, but you're young, and I assume you don't know as much as me, and I really, really, REALLY would just like to see you get quality stuff for as cheap as possible.

gicts
03-30-2006, 12:27 AM
david-what is that second link you posted? just a box? :???:

DFizzle
03-30-2006, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by birdhouse
MA Audio isn't good... Just please, please listen to our recommendations. I've thrown some out, Derek's thrown some out... I'm not saying that you don't know anything about car audio, but you're young, and I assume you don't know as much as me, and I really, really, REALLY would just like to see you get quality stuff for as cheap as possible.
My thoughts exactly, well said Corey. I know it seems like we keep shooting down your ideas Mike, but we really are trying to help you out. Most of us have made stupid audio choices at one time or another just becuase we were impatient or didn't know any better and we're trying to help you avoid that.

inferno
03-30-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by GreenGA98
I don't want to spend over $250 on a 2 subs, an amp, and a wiring kit combined.

my amp alone cost me over $250


i can understand that you want to get a good sounding system for a low price. When i first got a system in my car i wanted to do the same. But it ended up costing me more in the end.

my first system ran me almost $400 2subs, amp, box which include pyramid subs, legacy amp, qlogic box

i got my wiring kit from walmart and it costed me $25 w/ 4ga

Save your money and get something thats going to be worth it.

GreenGA98
03-30-2006, 04:15 PM
I thank all of you for helping me with my audio decisions. My friend that is going to help install my system(he used to own a customs shop) is going to sell me his old subs and box. He giving it to me for $75. Now the subs are 2 12's but im not sure what brand. But I have heard these subs in his car before. He said he is not sure of the RMS(he is checking into it) but he knows they both hit at least 200w RMS. Now I know everybody was telling me to buy these subs and those subs but i have heard these subs before and like them. So now I don't need help finding subs. As for an amp, anybody have any ideas? what brand would be consider good for an amp to power 2 12' subs?

birdhouse
03-30-2006, 05:14 PM
We can't tell you that until you find out what kind of subs they actually are... We need a brand, model # if possible, and specs. If he actually purchased the subs, he should be able to remember what kind they are... I remember every kind of speaker, amp, subs, HU's, etc. that I've ever purchased.

inferno
03-30-2006, 05:43 PM
^^^ i do too even tho ive gone thru alot of them

Mike really cant recommend anything til u have atleast the rms.

Chain
03-30-2006, 06:15 PM
I can tell you Crossfire sells awesome amps, Clean powerful sounds at a resionable price. But like stated above with out some specs can't tell you which one.

Funny thing is I can tell you every speaker and Hu amp I have ever owned way back 25 years ago...

GreenGA98
03-31-2006, 09:00 PM
The only reason he doesn't remember is because he has so much audio equipment. He does competitions and stuff. He won a contest for the longest burnout with his mustang a few years back.
Anyways I will have the specs on the subs sometime tomorrow. Until then, what brand of amps are good. Just brands in general, i dont want a model number or anything yet. I just want to look into amps bc i am planning to order one tomorrow night. So, good brands for amps?

inferno
03-31-2006, 09:23 PM
i love my hifonics, and the kicker and kenwood amps ive owned

GreenGA98
04-02-2006, 09:52 AM
I found out that the subs were pyramids(i know what you said about pyramids and how they suck). That suprised me bc i thought these were good subs. My friend said that the subs aren't top of the line(obviously) but aren't shitty. Is there a such thing as a good Pyramid sub?

Specs
Brand: Pyramid
Model: Not Sure
Rms: 200w each
Max: 400w each
Size: 12inch
With the subs and box, he selling it to me for $75 used
Is this a good deal, even if they are Pyramid subs?

gicts
04-02-2006, 10:02 AM
with those specs you gave really the only thing we could tell is how much power to feed them and to a lesser extent how loud they would be unless we were to look up what pyramid subs have those specs, finding the model and look from there. Lol but it really doesn't matter. There is no way for $75 I would buy a pair of pyramids especially if you said that one was blown. Add an amp to that cost and you will have the total that is the same as something that we have laid out for you

GreenGA98
04-02-2006, 10:06 AM
This is a diferent guy. They are 2 used pyramid subs, 1 is not blown. He is selling me the 2 good subs and the box for $75. Since I have never done it before he is helping me install it. I consider him practically a professional since he owned his own customs shop for a while. So 2 subs, a box, and install, for $75 dollars. What about now

gicts
04-02-2006, 10:16 AM
sounds good....minus the pyramids lol. For the price they might be what you want and seem like a steal, but trust me the quality is just not there. As for the install, haven't you already installed 8 ga. wire and now going for 4? Have to say told you so, and not meaning to be an ass but please listen, we're trying to help. I wouldn't spend that much on those 2 subs. And since the amp is already wired up what sort of install is this guy going to be doing?

GreenGA98
04-02-2006, 10:20 AM
No I have no wires in my car. I also have zero clue how to install subs and an amp. I would try but i don't want to screw something up. He is going to teach me how to do it the right way. So he is going to install the sub and amp, and teach me in the process.

and i will go with the 4ga wire when i install it

gicts
04-02-2006, 10:32 AM
Have you picked the amp? It is good to have someone there to help when you do it, would he do it even if you didn't buy from him? I really think that you would be happier with a single quality sub at that price. You can build your own box for around $15. Something like an Alpine-R (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ALPINE-SWR-1042D-10-TYPE-R-1500W-DVC-SUBWOOFER_W0QQitemZ9707157692QQcategoryZ3291QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem)
is about the same price and you are getting more power from both pyramids from this single one. And Alpine is better quality. Or get a type-s (http://cgi.ebay.com/ALPINE-SWS-1042D-10-900w-TYPE-S-DVC-CAR-SUBWOOFER-SUB_W0QQitemZ9707039616QQcategoryZ3291QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem) shipped $20 more than you are thinking for the pyramids.

GreenGA98
04-02-2006, 10:35 AM
I'm probably going with this amp for $120

amp that is Power Acoustik LT980/2
• Amplifier Type: 2-channel
• RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 220W x 2
• THD at 4-Ohm RMS Power: 0.02 %
• Bridged RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 560W x 1
• Speaker Level Inputs: No
• Preamp Outputs: Yes
• Built-In Crossovers: HP/LP
• Bass Boost: 0 - 24 dB
• Frequency Response: 10-30,000 Hz
• Signal to Noise Ratio: 98 dB

i don't kno if he'll install it if i don't buy the subs from him, or i will probably have to pay him. He's not mean but he is busy.

gicts
04-02-2006, 10:48 AM
that's understandable. If you are close to Louisville I wouldn't mind doing it for you. Again PA isn't a great name in audio... Ok, you know those subs at PepBoy's? The ones that look like toys or something? That's like Pyramid lol

birdhouse
04-02-2006, 11:33 AM
I give up... Do what you want, man. I understand it's hard to pass up what seems like a good deal, but I gurantee you're going to be regretting this sometime soon down the line...

And, just to let you know, that amp could work, or it couldn't. Since we don't know what Ohm load to put those subs at, I can't recommend a single amp to you. I honestly think you're "friend" is ripping you off on the subs and the box... He's charging you that much because he's thinking, "well... if I'm installing it for him too, and he doesn't know anything about car audio... why not? he's young... he won't know...." Have you even seen these subs since the last time you heard them? Who knows if they are even still working and when he throws it all in your trunk and nothing happens, he's probably gonna blame the amp you bought and NOT the subs or the install he just did...

I dunno... I don't want to judge someone before I meet them, but you said he's had years and years of car audio experience and his own shop, so he has to be in his late 20's, early 30's or something...
I think he sees and opportunity in you and is taking it...

GreenGA98
04-02-2006, 12:10 PM
First of all im just outside of cleveland( in Brunswick, you probably never heard of it) so im kind far away. Thanks for the offer though.

I got an idea though. Let me kno what you think. I buy those subs from my friend and let him install the subs and amp. So i just spent like $230(with wiring kit) all together. Now I would kno how to do it. If the subs bust or i want new ones....the amp and box will be there, installed. If i buy different subs and have them installed it will cost me alot more money, and i won't kno how to do it. So would this be a good way to get a "starter" set of subs and learn how to install all this stuff in the process. (Forget about the brands of the equip for now)

EDIT: I DOUBT THAT MY FRIEND IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ME, MY DAD WORKS WITH HIM EVERY DAY. HE OFFERED TO HELP ME WITH MY CAR BACK WHEN I WANTED TO GET SPEAKERS(I CHANGED MY MIND THOUGH). I BET HE PAYED MORE THAN $75 FOR THE SUBS WITH THE BOX. W/E THOUGH, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HELP ME ANYMORE THATS FINE.

gicts
04-02-2006, 12:55 PM
in logic that sounds good, and if you read my first post to this thread that's what I recommended.....but that was when it was $100. For $230 that is IMO that's out of the question. It sounds as if your bud is a good guy and would help you regardless of where you get the subs and amp. If I were you I'd invest my $230 give or take into some quality audio and then have him help. You can invest in much more better for that price
example:
RF sysytem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Subs-1000W-Amp-Punch-Capacitor-Cables_W0QQitemZ9704319436QQcategoryZ18800QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem)
to show it's not a bargin, sony blows too but IMO they'd beat out what you havelinded up (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SONY-XPLOD-12-SUBS-SUBWOOFER-800W-BOX-760W-2-1-AMP_W0QQitemZ9706077507QQcategoryZ32822QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

inferno
04-02-2006, 03:36 PM
installing a amp and sub is not hard at all. i thought it was at first too but its as simple as 123

run a FUSED wire from batt to trunk connect that to the amp
run rcas and remote wire from deck to amp
connect speaker wires from amp to subs.

BAM your done

GreenGA98
04-03-2006, 08:57 PM
I went with the power acoustik amp. (980 watt max). And the pyramid subs (200w rms each). For a total of of $200 installed. I ended up getting a discount on the amp and wiring kit. It should be a nice lil system for that price. Thanks for all your help and I should have it installed by this weekend or whenever my amp comes. Thanks again -Mike

gicts
04-03-2006, 10:18 PM
:banghead: well keep us updated on how ya like it dude.

PontiacGT
04-03-2006, 10:27 PM
I put a Power Acoustik sub in a car once, powered by some off brand Californea amp and it sounded great.

Too little too late I see though...

Brandon
04-03-2006, 11:04 PM
if you want good deals on stuff, go around the stores and ask when they new model lines will be coming in. they will discountt he previous years model of stuff just to move it out and make space for the new lineup. thats how i got my subs for 106 for the pair when they cost like 150-175 new each. still brand new, nothing wrong with em, warrentied and everything.... just the previous years model.... good part nothing was changed on the new ones! you can get better stuff cheaper then the cheap stuff... if you can just wait...

i like inifinity myself, but i have a crunch amp that hasnt caused me a problem yet

Bumpin1OHM
04-04-2006, 10:30 AM
man, i remember when i gave myself a $300 budget for a system... once i really sat down and thought about what i wanted... hah yea... its over four thousand now... :)

let me tell you one thing though GreenGA, whenever you decide to upgrade, go all the way breh

or else youll just be in a never-ending cycle of buying equipment

GreenGA98
04-11-2006, 09:18 PM
Finally I got my subs and amp installed today. I took my friend and I a couple hours. It would have gone faster except a couple stupid little things went wrong. First the install kit didn't come with speaker wire, or an audio cord. I drilled a hole in a spot under my dash and the switch didn't work there. Then when i got the switch where i wanted it, the switch didn't work(bad wire). But overall the install went pretty well for my first time.

I got 2 pyramid subs(in a carpeted box)
980 watt max Power Acoustic Amp
4 guage wire

Already installed:
Pioneer DEH-P6700MP head unit

So my system is coming together now and I didn't spend that much.

Also the subs hit hard

birdhouse
04-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Get it metered and then we'll see how "loud" it really pounds.

And switch for what?

gicts
04-11-2006, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by birdhouse
Get it metered and then we'll see how "loud" it really pounds.

And switch for what?
for the amp fan. With that sort of power that amp could overheat pretty quickly. :)

birdhouse
04-11-2006, 11:24 PM
IC...

I guess getting cheap ass equipment comes with extra costs, like fans... Or a new under-shroud cover for your dash because you drilled a hole in it for nothing.

gicts
04-11-2006, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by birdhouse
IC...

I guess getting cheap ass equipment comes with extra costs, like fans... Or a new under-shroud cover for your dash because you drilled a hole in it for nothing. idk man I was just taking a stab

GreenGA98
04-12-2006, 08:59 AM
first of all, calm down. Its a switch for the amp. How else am i suspossed to turn the amp on and off. I know it doesn't pound as hard as your $3000 audio systems but its nice for what i want. I'm pretty sure i don't need a fan, it has a heatsink, i don't run the system that much at a time, and it's doesn't get too hot up here in ohio

birdhouse
04-12-2006, 10:06 AM
Why are you controlling your amp (power-wise) with a switch? If you're cruising and need to turn your shit down, do you hit the switch, then turn it back on when you pass a cop or a neighboorhood or something? Have fun blowing your "new" subs that way...

And, you need to chill out, kid. Nothing in my post before was meant to get you all hot-headed, but being 16 and not taking ANY of our advice on here (after you wouldn't stop asking for it) I guess that's your normal course of action with everything, right?

GreenGA98
04-12-2006, 10:23 AM
.all ur advise is about paying more for my system and i don't have the money.

I'm not losing my temper or anything. The subs won't blow because the amp is on a switch, unless u flip it on and off rapidly. I had my freind who had done this like 500 times, help me. He has a switch on his car and recommends it to people installing amps. It is better than having to mess with ur head unit and trying to turn the amp off that way. It will cause a problem. which is probably what ur talking about, if you leave that switch on and then turn off the car. That will blow the subs. Otherwise it will be fine

Bumpin1OHM
04-12-2006, 10:34 AM
"If you're cruising and need to turn your shit down, do you hit the switch, then turn it back on when you pass a cop or a neighboorhood or something? Have fun blowing your "new" subs that way..."

if the switch is on the remote wire instead of the main power wire, this will do no harm, unless his amp doesnt have turn on/off pop protection


"He has a switch on his car and recommends it to people installing amps. It is better than having to mess with ur head unit and trying to turn the amp off that way. It will cause a problem. which is probably what ur talking about, if you leave that switch on and then turn off the car. That will blow the subs. Otherwise it will be fine"


how is a switch going to help the subs not blow? unless your talking abotu a circuit breaker or something, which is absolutely NOT recommended in the car audio world. either you use fuses or you better have fire insurance.

how is it easier to turn off the amp with a switch rather than hitting the pause, or the attenuate button to quiet down the system?

the only way it might "blow the subs" when you turn off the car is if your amp produces a turn off pop and it overpowers the subs, they are pyramids, so yes id venture to say that might be possible. if it was quality equipment it would be a shot in hell.


the wheel has already been invented bro, a system is in place. putting a switch in the car is not the best way to go about it. the most i would do, is hook up a switch to the remote wire for the amp that leads to the headunit anyway. so you could prevent the subwoofer amp from coming on at times.

GreenGA98
04-12-2006, 11:30 AM
my amp switch is on the remote wire, my power cable is on a lighting audio 4 guage wire fuse.

i have all the stuff in place, the switch was his idea, so u can turn off the amp with the flip of a switch, i don't kno why he did it. Its not a huge problem or anything. It is on the remote wire anyways

birdhouse
04-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by GreenGA98
.all ur advise is about paying more for my system and i don't have the money.

I'm not losing my temper or anything. The subs won't blow because the amp is on a switch, unless u flip it on and off rapidly. I had my freind who had done this like 500 times, help me. He has a switch on his car and recommends it to people installing amps. It is better than having to mess with ur head unit and trying to turn the amp off that way. It will cause a problem. which is probably what ur talking about, if you leave that switch on and then turn off the car. That will blow the subs. Otherwise it will be fine

Ok... whatever. And, yes... I was talking about flipping it on and off. Amps are NOT meant to do that. It's not like a freaking light switch in a house or something. And I completley agree with Nathan. If you need to quiet your system down, don't turn the amp off with the switch... Just hit the mute button on your HU or the ATT button... Whatever you have. I dunno. This is my last post on this until the subs blow and you're asking us for more help...

Oh, and, another reason I don't understand why you have a switch is that the amp automatically turns on and off with the car if you wired it that way (the way you're supposed to). I can't see how leaving the amp on when you shut the car off would blow them, but I could see how if you left the amp on for an extended period of time (being that's it's a POS amp) it would fry. Especially if it's extremely hot out that day or something.

Jibo
04-12-2006, 03:12 PM
:shake: Unreal, simply unreal

GreenGA98
04-15-2006, 04:04 PM
i don't kno why he installed a switch on the amp. It strikes me as unecessary. But it shouldn't hurt anything. I'm a couple days into the system and i like it so far. My rearview mirror shakes like crazy though.

One more question if anybody reads this:
Will opening your trunk(with the subs already running) cause any problems? Some guy told me that it would but i think he was messing with me. Idk, post if u kno.

gicts
04-15-2006, 07:11 PM
switch= job security
as for the subs... that's true. They might jump into traffic and you'd be charged with euthanasia

inferno
04-15-2006, 07:56 PM
ive heard of ppl installing switchs incase they are pulled over by a cop.

I dont see a reason that opening the trunk will hurt the subs. you will just get less bass due to the open space