Another Airbox Idea

[GrandAmageGT]

Ok...dont flame too bad. :P

I was thinking about designing a lite-gauged stainless steel "scoop" for inside the airbox that would kind of direct the incoming air straight up into the filter instead of giving the air all of that space to swirl around inside the box. Do you think this would help the airflow any?

Also...I am wondering if thermal wrap around the box would keep some of the engine heat out.

[1995grandam]

good idea with the scoop, and it as actually even been done before. here is a site where i think they do exactly what your talking about

http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/ramair/ramair.htm

[GrandAmageGT]

Well...that's another idea but not what I was talking about. I have to look at the airbox more, but the scoop I want to make will go directly inside the airbox itself.

[02GARacer]

Sounds like it could work. let me know man

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by 1996GrandAm
Sounds like it could work. let me know man

NP I will. I dont think it would hurt anything....and creating a smooth and direct path for the air to cut up through the filter quicker kind of makes sense...well to me anyways. :)

[CHollman82]

If I understand you correctly you are saying that you want to add a piece of metal before the filter that will direct the air along a specific path to the filter. However, by doing this you would also be restricting the amount of surface area of the filter that is being used, which would restrict airflow, the opposite of what you are trying to do. Wouldn't it be better to just replace the air box with a cone filter?

[Yeahdoug]

Why not just buy a CAI

[GrandAmageGT]

OK....well for the comment about using less surface area of the filter, well the last time I cleaned my K&N the dirt was about 80% at one end of the filter anyways...near the intake. Think about it....right now the air is just going into the box, swirling around until the intake can bring it in properly. This idea would direct the flow of air (most likely at one end of the filter which seems to be the way it does anyways) up through the filter faster than allowing the air mass to swirl.

As for a CAI...sure I could do that, and if I did I'd most likely make it custom anyways. My problem is that I am experimental and love trying to make things myself.

I dont know....it may work...it may be a POS...but that is the fun of experimenting. ;)

[Merlyn]

Originally posted by 1995grandam
good idea with the scoop, and it as actually even been done before. here is a site where i think they do exactly what your talking about

http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/ramair/ramair.htm

This guy actually had a pretty good idea....... I wonder how that would work with CAI........

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by Merlyn
This guy actually had a pretty good idea....... I wonder how that would work with CAI........

Yeah until it rains outside and he goes through a few puddles. That just looks like it is inviting a good bit of water into the engine. Of course there are steps that one can take to help that.

[Merlyn]

For example?

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by Merlyn
For example?

http://www.tuneshops.com/per-Auto~Performance-1-AEM~Bypass~Valve.htm

[TA^Guy]

Jason, another idea is to remove the grids inside the airbox. The main purpose of them is to reduce intake noise. Removing them can make the airflow smoother. I've done it by using a pair of plier. Just break them off andsmooth it out.

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Jason, another idea is to remove the grids inside the airbox. The main purpose of them is to reduce intake noise. Removing them can make the airflow smoother. I've done it by using a pair of plier. Just break them off andsmooth it out.

Excellent idea, I think I will need to do that for what I have planned. How about this then...I take out the grids, and sand it smooth. Then I take a piece of alluminum, and cut it to a tight fit inside the box. I run this piece from under where the air comes into the airbox to about halfway up the other side of the box. Reason why halfway instead of all the way is so air travels up the piece, and hits the side of the box, allowing it to travel across the remainin open space to allow more even entrance through the air filter.

[Merlyn]

Thanks jason!

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by Merlyn
Thanks jason!

I hope that works. Sounds good. We a similar configuration on our plasma burner here at work. Bleeder valves that catch water running through the air line so it doesnt mix with the oxygen/nitrogen mix and screw up the electrode etc. Are you planning on doing that to your car? If so I'd love to hear how it comes out. :)

[pre_16365]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Jason, another idea is to remove the grids inside the airbox. The main purpose of them is to reduce intake noise. Removing them can make the airflow smoother. I've done it by using a pair of plier. Just break them off andsmooth it out.

thats what i did!

[XtremeGrandAm]

Sound like a good idea.

[Merlyn]

Originally posted by GrandAMage GT
I hope that works. Sounds good. We a similar configuration on our plasma burner here at work. Bleeder valves that catch water running through the air line so it doesnt mix with the oxygen/nitrogen mix and screw up the electrode etc. Are you planning on doing that to your car? If so I'd love to hear how it comes out. :)

Right now I am looking at some options. The only thing is that I really don't know what to expect, or what all I should watch out for. I do know that I want to put on a CAI, and I liked the look of that little scoop. I wasn't sure what all else I would need for a little project such as that.

[GrandAmageGT]

Originally posted by Merlyn
Right now I am looking at some options. The only thing is that I really don't know what to expect, or what all I should watch out for. I do know that I want to put on a CAI, and I liked the look of that little scoop. I wasn't sure what all else I would need for a little project such as that.

Yeah, I hear you there. What I wonder about that scoop is that unless the air is "funneled" or "guided" directly onto the filter it would dissipate the moment it got into the engine bay. Perhaps an alternative to having those water valves would be to have that air scoop hooked to perhaps a piece of pipe, or something that can direct the air about halfway up in a way that allows the filter to sit away from the ground as much as possible (and away from engine heat at the same time) so going through puddles would not get as much water to the filter if any. :shrug:

[GrandAmageGT]

Well after discussing this a bit with the physics major that works here I have decided to scrap this idea(though I will still smooth out the inside of the airbox). However....in that conversation another idea has hit me. :)

[TA^Guy]

Well Jason good luck, new ideas are what seperates a true hobbiest from those fad followers that slap random parts together.
Originally posted by pre_16365
thats what i did!
Great minds think alike. :)

I picked the idea up from the LS1 airboxes. A very common and worthy mod is a aftermarket lid that is smooth as oppossed to the stock one. Might not be as effective on our cars but the same principle applys.

[GrandAmageGT]

I agree with you John....it's fun to try and experiment with your own ideas....and create "fads" of your own. :)