Turbo motor swap

[92Granddamn]

Hey fellow grand amers. I currantly drive a 92 grand am se with the 3.3 v6. I noticed most people (mainly ricer punks) put down the grand ams for there lack of speed and power. I was thinking today how nice it would be to do an extream motor swap. Ive herd and read people putting gen1 and gen2 supercharged 3800's in there grand ams but thats not good enof I want my grand am to be in the 10's that would get thouse ricer punks to shut there honda drivin azz's. I was thinking how involved but sweet it would be to make a all wheel drive turbo 92 grand am. The outside would remain totaly stock to keep it a sleeper. This may sounds stupid or crazy to some of you but just think of it wouldent it be insane lol. Hit me back on how you all feel about this. Latters all

**NOTE** to thouse who just read this top piece and not the replys. I am not saying I am going to do this mod its only an idea to toss around so please don't reply if you only guna say it would cost to much money or isent worth it. Its an idea to do somthing that hasent been done thats all.
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[Colin]

I'll go out on a limb here and predict that it'll never happen ...

[92Granddamn]

Have a little faith friend. I may do it I may not just an idea of somthing that hasent been done befor.

[wokeupscreamin]

if you had the money to afford all that shit... you wouldn't be driving a 92 GA

[92Granddamn]

It wouldent be that spendy if I fitted the drive train off lets say an old eclipse. This is basicly a post to entertain the idea the idea to do somthing diferant.

[BadBlack00Ga]

Unless you have all the parts available to you at a very low cost and you're planning on doing all the work yourself, you're better off buying a new car.

[Matt95GT]

Originally posted by Colin
I'll go out on a limb here and predict that it'll never happen ...

I hope that limb is strong enough to support the weight of a few others.

Originally posted by BadBlack00Ga
Unless you have all the parts available to you at a very low cost...

Goes well beyond that... these parts simply don't exist at all. Meaning everything would need to be fabricated from scratch. Might as well design and build a totally new car then.

[92Granddamn]

The point is to change an existing car. It seems like everyone is just posting replys putting down the idea cause of the cost. Cost is not the subject changeing the car is.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by Matt95GT
I hope that limb is strong enough to support the weight of a few others.



Goes well beyond that... these parts simply don't exist at all. Meaning everything would need to be fabricated from scratch. Might as well design and build a totally new car then.


Good point but parts can be modified from an exsisting AWD car to work. Sure it may take a truck full of money, Take a truck load of time and experance, and be a waste of both of thouse. It is possable crazyer things have been done to a car. So lets try and be a bit nicer on here friends and not put done the idea so much.

[Matt95GT]

You're talking about a project beyond the scope of what professional car builders do. The reason it's being put down... AWD... it isn't going to happen.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by Matt95GT
You're talking about a project beyond the scope of what professional car builders do. The reason it's being put down... AWD... it isn't going to happen.


The pros sit and build complete cars frame and all from scrach. plus I never said I was going to do it. I was just tossing the idea of it around seeing what people would think. Im sure you and everyone has tossed around an idea that would be impossable or near it.

[sunrunner_pei]

Problem is we've heard it all before.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by sunrunner_pei
Problem is we've heard it all before.

Im new to the fourm here so I wasent aware

[randizzle]

dude swapping a 3.8 has been done (with more work than it is probably worth), but AWD just simply will not happen to a GA. Sell your 3.3 GA and buy an updated model (ecotech, twin cam, or 3.4) and you can get them pretty fast for a lot less $$ and headache than swapping a 3.8sc with AWD.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by randizzle
dude swapping a 3.8 has been done (with more work than it is probably worth), but AWD just simply will not happen to a GA. Sell your 3.3 GA and buy an updated model (ecotech, twin cam, or 3.4) and you can get them pretty fast for a lot less $$ and headache than swapping a 3.8sc with AWD.


yeah but those motors swaps have been done this is somthing that hasent been done.

[03grandam]

Well im not gonna bash the idea.I think it would deff be something great,i mean alot of ppl put more money into there cars than its worth but its all about what the owner wants.While your at it you could do the 4 wheel steering too.
Yea i agree that you would have to basically build a whole new car but it a person has the time,$$$ and experiance,what the hell.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by 03grandam
Well im not gonna bash the idea.I think it would deff be something great,i mean alot of ppl put more money into there cars than its worth but its all about what the owner wants.While your at it you could do the 4 wheel steering too.
Yea i agree that you would have to basically build a whole new car but it a person has the time,$$$ and experiance,what the hell.


yeah It would be sweet. It would invove a ton of custom parts but at least you would know there is no one eles driving that lol.

[ManktheTank19]

Well I agree with teh most people here, what you are tryin to do wont happen. I though the same stuff you think about changing the motor and everything. You have to work with what you have and that is why you have 2 options

You have the 3.3L which is the yonger brother of the 3.8L, the engine mounts are the same

OR

You can do this custom turbo set up like someone else did:
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49514&highlight=3.3L+turbo

[FasTBird232]

For good reason. "I'm going to dump thousands upon thousands of dollars to make a fast Grand Am!" Yeah, right. Absolutely no point. These cars aren't hot rods; they're compact cars designed to be economical and practical. Yeah, some guys on here like to hop them up and make theirs faster, but there's certainly a point at which it just becomes a waste of time and money. This AWD idea is well beyond that point.

[BledRedGaSe]

Originally posted by FasTBird232
For good reason. "I'm going to dump thousands upon thousands of dollars to make a fast Grand Am!" Yeah, right. Absolutely no point. These cars aren't hot rods; they're compact cars designed to be economical and practical. Yeah, some guys on here like to hop them up and make theirs faster, but there's certainly a point at which it just becomes a waste of time and money. This AWD idea is well beyond that point.

Exactly. I've invested 3-4 grand into mine and I have flat out given up on it. After investing tons of time, money, and research for about a year and a half I realize that my money is better invested in a better platform. I'm saving to purchase a Nissan 350Z in the spring. I got a new job so this dream car of mine may finally be within reach. 4 all of the time and money it would take to get my grand am where I would want it I could have purchased a 350Z and upgraded it to already beat the GA. There are just much better platforms out there to start from. These are economy cars not hot rods. I'm not trying to shoot down U'r idea. Nobody here is. But like they said this has been gone over time and time again and were just sick of hearing it. We like ideas that are just a little more realistic. Ok well a lot more realistic. A couple years ago I wanted to puchase a 99 Eclipse GSX and then swap in a new 4G63 turbo motor, tranny, and AWD drivetrain and suspension set up from the then new Evo 8. I wanted to call it an "Evoclipse". After researching I realized that it wouldn't make much sence unless I had trillions of dollars (which I don't) or nothing to do with my time (which I do). I could buy an Evo 8 for much cheaper than doing all of that. Because technically I would have to buy an Evo and an Eclipse to do it. If U just won the Lotto or Mommy and Daddy are rediculously loaded then go for it. It would be the ultimate Grand Am 4 sure. Other wise turn U'r focus on something that can be done on U'r budget, skill level, and time frame. Think about the price of the car U want more than the grand am. Then think about how much U will have to invest to get the grand am where U would want it. Compare the 2. In my book I can pick up my 350Z for about $10-$15 grand less than I would have to invest in my grand am, and I wasn't even considering a motor swap or AWD. Just think about it.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by BledRedGaSe
Exactly. I've invested 3-4 grand into mine and I have flat out given up on it. After investing tons of time, money, and research for about a year and a half I realize that my money is better invested in a better platform. I'm saving to purchase a Nissan 350Z in the spring. I got a new job so this dream car of mine may finally be within reach. 4 all of the time and money it would take to get my grand am where I would want it I could have purchased a 350Z and upgraded it to already beat the GA. There are just much better platforms out there to start from. These are economy cars not hot rods. I'm not trying to shoot down U'r idea. Nobody here is. But like they said this has been gone over time and time again and were just sick of hearing it. We like ideas that are just a little more realistic. Ok well a lot more realistic. A couple years ago I wanted to puchase a 99 Eclipse GSX and then swap in a new 4G63 turbo motor, tranny, and AWD drivetrain and suspension set up from the then new Evo 8. I wanted to call it an "Evoclipse". After researching I realized that it wouldn't make much sence unless I had trillions of dollars (which I don't) or nothing to do with my time (which I do). I could buy an Evo 8 for much cheaper than doing all of that. Because technically I would have to buy an Evo and an Eclipse to do it. If U just won the Lotto or Mommy and Daddy are rediculously loaded then go for it. It would be the ultimate Grand Am 4 sure. Other wise turn U'r focus on something that can be done on U'r budget, skill level, and time frame. Think about the price of the car U want more than the grand am. Then think about how much U will have to invest to get the grand am where U would want it. Compare the 2. In my book I can pick up my 350Z for about $10-$15 grand less than I would have to invest in my grand am, and I wasn't even considering a motor swap or AWD. Just think about it.


I understand what your all saying. And yes it is very very non realistic wich is why I thought of it lol. If it were ever to be done it wouldent be until the future when im rich lol.

[Martyr]

It would be nice, but I do agree with the majority. I don't think it would be worth the effort.

Why don't you try researching everything that would be involved as far as time, money, and materials. Then let us know if you think it would be worth it.

[urweak]

Your car would probably work really well for a 3800 swap (since you have the 3300). And consider these motors in the heavier GTP's run 13's or 12's with mods, the lighter GA should see those times for sure or better.

If you want 10's, i would go with a V8 and RWD setup, tube the chassie and all that (car probably would not be street legal after that)

The AWD isnt worth it, and i dont mean in terms of money, i think the outcome of an AWD setup wouldnt be as good as a properly dialed in RWD setup.

BUT, if you really want to go with a AWD setup, i would say TWO motors (one under the hood, and one in the trunk) would probably be the easiest way to get to that goal.

[GrandAmSSE]

I'd get a turboed 3.1 from like an 88 Grand prix. I think its a direct swap.

[urweak]

Originally posted by BledRedGaSe
Exactly. I've invested 3-4 grand into mine and I have flat out given up on it. After investing tons of time, money, and research for about a year and a half I realize that my money is better invested in a better platform. I'm saving to purchase a Nissan 350Z in the spring. I got a new job so this dream car of mine may finally be within reach. 4 all of the time and money it would take to get my grand am where I would want it I could have purchased a 350Z and upgraded it to already beat the GA. There are just much better platforms out there to start from. These are economy cars not hot rods. I'm not trying to shoot down U'r idea. Nobody here is. But like they said this has been gone over time and time again and were just sick of hearing it. We like ideas that are just a little more realistic. Ok well a lot more realistic. A couple years ago I wanted to puchase a 99 Eclipse GSX and then swap in a new 4G63 turbo motor, tranny, and AWD drivetrain and suspension set up from the then new Evo 8. I wanted to call it an "Evoclipse". After researching I realized that it wouldn't make much sence unless I had trillions of dollars (which I don't) or nothing to do with my time (which I do). I could buy an Evo 8 for much cheaper than doing all of that. Because technically I would have to buy an Evo and an Eclipse to do it. If U just won the Lotto or Mommy and Daddy are rediculously loaded then go for it. It would be the ultimate Grand Am 4 sure. Other wise turn U'r focus on something that can be done on U'r budget, skill level, and time frame. Think about the price of the car U want more than the grand am. Then think about how much U will have to invest to get the grand am where U would want it. Compare the 2. In my book I can pick up my 350Z for about $10-$15 grand less than I would have to invest in my grand am, and I wasn't even considering a motor swap or AWD. Just think about it.

Well, for me personally. I would rather take the GA, and spend $10,000 to make it run 11's. And then be able to say, hey, i took a 16 second car and made it run 11's by doubling its hp. The 350z is a nice car, but have fun boosting it, the VQ motor in that has paper thin pistons. And some could even argue that there are better options then the 350z. So thats what moding a car is all about. You take something, and turn it into something else, that fits you, and that is original. Not something anyone with X amount of money can walk into a dealership and say, i want that one.

I think this sums it up

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=574545

[03grandam]

Originally posted by urweak
Well, for me personally. I would rather take the GA, and spend $10,000 to make it run 11's. And then be able to say, hey, i took a 16 second car and made it run 11's by doubling its hp. The 350z is a nice car, but have fun boosting it, the VQ motor in that has paper thin pistons. And some could even argue that there are better options then the 350z. So thats what moding a car is all about. You take something, and turn it into something else, that fits you, and that is original. Not something anyone with X amount of money can walk into a dealership and say, i want that one.

I think this sums it up

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=574545


Yup i agree 100%

[Matt95GT]

Originally posted by urweak
Well, for me personally. I would rather take the GA, and spend $10,000 to make it run 11's. And then be able to say, hey, i took a 16 second car and made it run 11's by doubling its hp.

That's why these projects are neat. But I also believe there's a point which it's not really a Grand Am anymore. Tubed chassis? RWD or AWD? That's more like a race chassis with a Grand Am body thrown on top. That's why squeezing power out of a stock powertrain impresses me more.

Originally posted by GrandAmSSE
I'd get a turboed 3.1 from like an 88 Grand prix. I think its a direct swap.

It's not. And they are slow anyway. It was 1990 BTW.

[92Granddamn]

Originally posted by urweak
Well, for me personally. I would rather take the GA, and spend $10,000 to make it run 11's. And then be able to say, hey, i took a 16 second car and made it run 11's by doubling its hp. The 350z is a nice car, but have fun boosting it, the VQ motor in that has paper thin pistons. And some could even argue that there are better options then the 350z. So thats what moding a car is all about. You take something, and turn it into something else, that fits you, and that is original. Not something anyone with X amount of money can walk into a dealership and say, i want that one.

I think this sums it up




Very good point. Id even like to start it as a simple engine swap but not a 3800 id like to put a turbo charged V6 of some type in there. It would take alot of reserching tho to see what would be closest to fiting. I was thinking of a 300zx twin turbo motor. they have 280hp stock. Plus it would be a good platform to upgrade on. I want to try and find a non import motor tho cause the fact I dislike imports it would come back at me if I put an import motor in it.

[BledRedGaSe]

Yeah I agree with U guys. It's all about the mods. Not the super expensive cars that are fast stock. I won't be leaving the 350z stock. "Stock" is not in my vocabulary. I understand that the pistons are paper thin. Hence replacing them. And the connecting rods, and the crank. And sleeving the block. I will be completely rebuilding the Z. And it will kill any grand am I come up against. I might not beat the tubed chasis rwd 1500 hp car with a grand am shell but I think we all agree that is no longer a grand am. I won't be touching the looks untill it's rebuilt. All go and some show. I should be in the solid high 13's with only a CAI. I would have to stick an ungodly amount of cash into my GA to even come close to that. A turbo setup on my GA would still only put me in the 14's. I plan on running a TT setup and I will be rebuilding everything on the car from the motor to the drive train to the suspension. I would like to be around 700 hp. That's also a realistic number. Check out modified mag's june or july issue from 2006. They've got a "daily driven" Razzo 350Z TT running 667hp. Of cource there are better applications and platforms out there. There is always a better platform. There is always an exception. In every case. The 350Z will also need some serous weight reduction. Can't believe U guys missed that. 350Z weighs 3,200 lbs. Check this link out. http://youtube.com/watch?v=CtDsAGd7uj8 Now that's a good platform. I have wanted the 350Z since it came out in 2003. It's a car that will give me the kind of satisfaction that a Grand Am just never could. I love everything about the car. The look, the stock power (that I will be upgrading, and that will change the sound I know but the power will make up for it). It's my dream car. Some people dream about Ferrari's or Porshe's. I dream about the 350Z. It's something deeper than just wanting a better platform. It's my dream. That's why I told 92Granddamn to go for it if he had the right situation. Happiness people. If U'r not happy with U'r Grand Am then work on getting something U will be happy with. That's something that I realized with the ga is that I will never be as happy with it as I would a 350z. I'm lucky that my dream car is a car that I can realistically get. Most will never see there dream car, and hopefully by next spring I will have mine. P.S. I work for every penny I get. My dad owe's me $200 for crist's sake! So don't think I will just be going to the dealership with $30 grand and saying "I want that one." My mommy and daddy arent loaded and I ain't got no trust fund or nothing like that. I'm just like all of U. I work. I get paid. I buy performance. Sorry bout the rant but U guys really know how to get me going. So **** U'r "Bought not Built **** U sign"! And **** U "urweak"!!! U'r lucky U'r in Pittsburgh or I'd kick U'r ****ing ass for talkin 2 me like that! I think that bout sums it up!!!

[car audio dave]

Originally posted by randizzle
dude swapping a 3.8 has been done (with more work than it is probably worth), but AWD just simply will not happen to a GA. Sell your 3.3 GA and buy an updated model (ecotech, twin cam, or 3.4) and you can get them pretty fast for a lot less $$ and headache than swapping a 3.8sc with AWD.

umm awd has been done to a ga. it was a concept car using the AWD system from the aztek, and the 3.5L that ended up in the g6, and it had a turbo.

the idea isnt bad, but the lack if resources make it an impractical project.

heres that autocross concept car:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/482000-482999/482117_346_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/482000-482999/482117_349_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/482000-482999/482117_348_full.jpg

[ManktheTank19]

BledRed, you shouldn't be all pissed that urweak told you off in an appropiate manner. Saying you will kick someones ass over the internet isn't tough at all...it demonstrates your lack of maturity. A 350Z is a nice car, however, I am not an important fan. Since you are talking about dream cars...Mine is a 99 Trans AM WS6 which would destroy the Z anytime if you run stock vs stock plus if you do modified vs modifed and in the end....my WS6 will be a whole lot cheaper that a Z. In the end, the next time you try to start fights over the internet...manke your age disappear from your profile because all you are doin is makin yourself look bad

[Colin]

Originally posted by 92Granddamn
Very good point. Id even like to start it as a simple engine swap but not a 3800 id like to put a turbo charged V6 of some type in there. It would take alot of reserching tho to see what would be closest to fiting. A fairly simple engine swap would be the 3800 V6 , although only a supercharged version comes stock from the factory , you could turbo it , but why even bother ? . And it would be alot easier than trying to put an off brand engine in the car .

[sunrunner_pei]

Originally posted by BledRedGaSe
...So **** U'r "Bought not Built **** U sign"! And **** U "urweak"!!! U'r lucky U'r in Pittsburgh or I'd kick U'r ****ing ass for talkin 2 me like that! I think that bout sums it up!!!

Dude, chill.

[urweak]

Originally posted by BledRedGaSe
So **** U'r "Bought not Built **** U sign"! And **** U "urweak"!!! U'r lucky U'r in Pittsburgh or I'd kick U'r ****ing ass for talkin 2 me like that! I think that bout sums it up!!!

:zzz:

[Xeiros]

Originally posted by urweak
The 350z is a nice car, but have fun boosting it, the VQ motor in that has paper thin pistons. And some could even argue that there are better options then the 350z. So thats what moding a car is all about. You take something, and turn it into something else, that fits you, and that is original. Not something anyone with X amount of money can walk into a dealership and say, i want that one.

I think this sums it up

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=574545

Many HAVE boosted their 350z's. There are twin turbo kits out for it that will net you upwards of 500+ HP as long as you've done the legwork to make sure the engine supports it. I do agree though, that there are other options as well. Suburu WRX and WRX STi's are one route, Mitsu Evo's another, and Civic and Acura TSX/RSX if you want to be like everyone else.

[hayabusa]

hay i say go for whatever you want, but in my personal opion the best way to drive is do cheap bolt ons then tack your car out run tracks in it learn about it's flaws and strengths, and that will make you a better driver it does matter what car you have if you don't have the balls to drive it or know how to drive it. The grand am can do pretty dam'n good on tracks but it does suck for strights

[hayabusa]

oh and i don't know why you say that g6 is specail, i was there and saw it in person and it didn't look differnt from a normal g6

[urweak]

Originally posted by hayabusa
oh and i don't know why you say that g6 is specail, i was there and saw it in person and it didn't look differnt from a normal g6

i take it your talking about the blue car. Thats a grand am, not a G6

[92Granddamn]

I think Ill just go with a super charged swap since it will fit more in my budget. Is there any place that offers upgraded super chargers over the stock?

[urweak]

Originally posted by 92Granddamn
I think Ill just go with a super charged swap since it will fit more in my budget. Is there any place that offers upgraded super chargers over the stock?

you want to do the 3800 s/c swap? you dont need to put a bigger charger on those motors, just run a smaller pulley on the supercharger. smaller pulley = more boost

[Matt95GT]

Bottles of chill pills are available at your friendly neighborhood pharmacy... I suggest some of you obtain some.

Originally posted by car audio dave
umm awd has been done to a ga. it was a concept car using the AWD system from the aztek...

Yes, but that's not in a 4th gen chassis as being discussed by the original thread starter. Either way, still no easy task.

[92Granddamn]

What are some of the highest HP that can be made on a 3800 SC with stock internals?

I am also guna hit up the local parts yard and get GT body parts. What would the newest year of body parts that I can slap on my car?

[urweak]

I have no idea. this might help http://www.l67swap.com/

92-95 or you could do a 96-98 style convertion.

[hayabusa]

i think the stock 38 sc made 260 in a g grand prix, but in a a it make maybe ten more, i don't think there's a big weight differnce

[hayabusa]

sorry ment in a grand am, guess i fat fingerd a key

[car audio dave]

ive heard of 300+ hp on a 3800 s/c but it also depends on the generation. the gen II came with 240hp, and the gen III comes with 260 stock. if you do a cam, headers, smaller pulleys, exhaust, and computer retune, youre looking at nearly 320hp.

as for the 350z vs trand am discussion...the z would win hands down. think of weight...ta ws6 weighs 4k lbs where the z is 3300-3400 lbs. that VQ35 has much more aftermarket for it, as well as it can take much more power than the LS1, both on stock internals.

i guess those cars could be good competitors, but the ws6 is starting off with the lower hand.

[urweak]

Originally posted by car audio dave
as for the 350z vs trand am discussion...the z would win hands down. think of weight...ta ws6 weighs 4k lbs where the z is 3300-3400 lbs. that VQ35 has much more aftermarket for it, as well as it can take much more power than the LS1, both on stock internals.

I am sorry to say, but you have no clue on what you are talking about. For starters the VQ is known to blow at as little as 8psi of boost, most will tell you that in order to boost the VQ it must be rebuilt first.

Also, if for a minute you think that the LS1 has little aftermarket support you are dreaming. The LS1 came in ALOT of cars, not to mention that there are so many variations in hte LSx family. And i dont think i have to mention that the TA is an F-body, probably one of the most modded GM body types ever.

Also, stock for stock the TA will win. Just look what the cars are running in the 1/4 mile. TA is good for 13.5 or better, and the Z will get you high 13s.

[hayabusa]

i say the ta just cause of ls2 i mean a 350 is strong but a v8 lays down so much more low end power

[urweak]

Originally posted by hayabusa
i say the ta just cause of ls2 i mean a 350 is strong but a v8 lays down so much more low end power

There was never an LS2 in any F-body.

[car audio dave]

the f-body might be the most modded GM car, but the 350z still has more aftermarket support.

does one need more than 8 psi of boost on the VQ?

423 hp with a stage 3 stillen s/c kit

450 hp with a turbonetics turbo

and thats with NO other upgrades. plus, theres CF doors, hoods, trunk which will lower the weight even more. i repeat the notion of more aftermarket.

[urweak]

Originally posted by car audio dave
the f-body might be the most modded GM car, but the 350z still has more aftermarket support.

does one need more than 8 psi of boost on the VQ?

423 hp with a stage 3 stillen s/c kit

450 hp with a turbonetics turbo

and thats with NO other upgrades. plus, theres CF doors, hoods, trunk which will lower the weight even more. i repeat the notion of more aftermarket.

And numerious people have done in their motors with those kits.

They make those parts for the camaro and firebird aswell. So whats your point?

Just b/c you can buy some lame bodykit for the Z doesnt mean theres more aftermarket support.

Also the Z doesnt have a trunk, it has a hatch.

[hayabusa]

yeah not a fan of body kits myself, but i do agree the z has lots of support. But still a v8 is a pretty strong engine. Yeah your right i think i was thinkin of a comareo or something. And also turbo are cool but lets not forget about deadly turbo lag. And if your saying sc's and stuff a ta could be charged pretty easily

[goredsox]

well i know this guy on the site that swapped a Series I 3800 into his 93 3300. All he basically had to do was lengthen a few wires and a few shafts. Our 3 speed will bolt right up. Series I 3800=165hp and 205trq. A little better do to the increased displacement. A Series I Supercharged will make 205hp and 240 trq i think...

I would stick with the Series I, becuse it is exactly the same as our 3300, just more displacement. With the Series I and III came significant changes to the internals of the motor.

Why dont you just make some mods for the 3300??? A jet chip, CAI, Exhaust, maybe a 4 speed tranny... Those alone will save ya a few secs 0-60 and 1/4 times... Me personally i think she has more than ample power, accelerating in 2nd gear, 3/4 throttle, riding the big fat torque curve that runs from 2500-4000 rpms... :drool: