Idea on Ram air modification

[djdanger]

Have an idea on changing up ram air. I have a friend that is a sheet metal man, I had him make me up a scoop aprox 3x9 inches. I intend on removing the resonator from the ram air system, and piping to the scoop. Very similiar to the kit Kenny Bell use to make for the Grand National. It will mount in the upper corner of my lower grill opening, recessed in so it cannot be seen. The scoop did not cost me anything, I just want some input from some of you guys on if you think this would be better than the way it comes stock.

[coupe]

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Im sorry its just that ive been around for YEARS and have seen every possible idea of modding the ram air there ever could possibly be thought up. It gets old.

[Big Joe]

get a CAI, its way better then anything you can do with the stock ram air.

[car audio dave]

if you could make ducting to go down into the bumper and suck in air from that front grill. it might bring in more air, but you still wont notice a difference unless you have a better flowing air filter, like a K&N. in any case, youre best off if you run a cone filter asnd put it in place of the stock air filter and air box lid.

[djdanger]

Well, after a little research, even though I have a k&n filter, it still would not flow enough to do any good. Just can't get the airflow through a flat panel filter, that you can through a cone, SO CAI will be ordered next week.......Thanks for the input.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by djdanger
Well, after a little research, even though I have a k&n filter, it still would not flow enough to do any good. Just can't get the airflow through a flat panel filter, that you can through a cone, SO CAI will be ordered next week.......Thanks for the input.
Your telling me a K&N filter doesn't flow enough for you stock 207cid V6??? lol Yes you can pass more air though a cone due to more surface area, but trust me it's not even needed.

One day I really need to dig out that artical with the engine dyno testing with air filters, brands and sizes to show how identical that all are.

BTW, the KenneBell air scoupe tha tmounts under the bumer for a Grand National is bascially a glorified plastic garbage can, which is what many GN and Mustang owners have used.

[Colin]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
One day I really need to dig out that artical with the engine dyno testing with air filters, brands and sizes to show how identical that all are. Yep similar size filters won't be much different than each other . Filters that use oil to trap dirt flow slightly better than paper filters , but they don't filter as well and vise versa . I remember a test done with two 14 inch round air filters stacked on top of each other on a carburated setup , and the engine actually lost power . Probably due to the air flow being disrupted because of the angle it had to turn to enter the carb .

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Colin
Yep similar size filters won't be much different than each other . Filters that use oil to trap dirt flow slightly better than paper filters , but they don't filter as well and vise versa . I remember a test done with two 14 inch round air filters stacked on top of each other on a carburated setup , and the engine actually lost power . Probably due to the air flow being disrupted because of the angle it had to turn to enter the carb .
Either you've quoted one of my replies in a previous thread or you read the same artical I did. Can't remember if it was Car Craft or Hot Rod that did it, but I really don't have time to sift through hundreds of magazines I have down in my library. lol

[Colin]

Originally posted by TA^Guy
Either you've quoted one of my replies in a previous thread or you read the same artical I did. Can't remember if it was Car Craft or Hot Rod that did it, but I really don't have time to sift through hundreds of magazines I have down in my library. lol I saw the test in a magazine , i wasn't aware of any other threads on the subject .... :???:

[SPECIALGAGT]

Cheap and effective: use home-heating furnace-filter material folded into 4-layers and cut to fit any air-box you have. If all filters do the same thing, why not use one that costs only 50-cents??

[car audio dave]

Cheap and effective: use home-heating furnace-filter material folded into 4-layers and cut to fit any air-box you have. If all filters do the same thing, why not use one that costs only 50-cents??

because they dont all work the same. a furnace filter isnt designed to handle air with the same velocity a car gets.

also, those filters alloow some particles through into our air that would ruin an engine over time.

[djdanger]

. a furnace filter isnt designed to handle air with the same velocity a car gets.

Ok, I agree first off that the furnace filter, is not a good idea, how ever, How many cfm, does a car pull when running? I doubt very seriously it is ANYWHERE near 2000 cfm, which is about what a 5 ton furnace flows. So , the furnace airfilter is plenty stong enough to with stand the air flow pulled by an engine.

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by car audio dave
also, those filters alloow some particles through into our air that would ruin an engine over time.
Correct a furnace filter isn't going to trap the smaller particals of airborn dirt like a papr or oiled foam filter.

[djdanger]

Ordered my CAI this eveing, started to go with Dr. Speed, would like to give him my buisiness, but 200.00 bucks is 200.00 bucks. So, I went with the 3pc chrome intakes.