cam cover removal

[rraasch04]

in order to remove the cam covers is it necessary to remove timing cover? or can i just get them off without....

[red98grandamse]

I haven't done this in awhile, but I "think" the cover will come off without touching the timing, but you cant remove the cam or the lower part of the tower without taking the timing out.

[rraasch04]

well i have the cover partly off... but it seems held on by the timing side... i dont want to pry up too much on the 4 bolts used to pop the cover.... there are 2 bolts that go through cam pulleys ( according to chiltons) i was wondering if those went into the cover... i dont wanna f things up more than what they are... thanks for your help!

[rraasch04]

sorry for the crappy shots... from phone... but that is where they are getting stuck....
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/rraasch04/12-19-06_1845.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/rraasch04/12-19-06_1844.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n111/rraasch04/12-19-06_1843.jpg

[ENGGUY]

I have a question. Why would you want to remove them?
The whole front end of the engine has to come off to get them off.

[ENGGUY]

Yes all the front end comes off to do that.
If it was me I just take outa the car. Too tight of work area other wise.

[randizzle]

yea, i've done this to a couple and both were out of the car and it still was a pain. in the car would be difficult and really, really time consuming.

[rraasch04]

yep i figured taht out after starting... so i decided to say f*** it... put it back together and leave the pos... oh well...

[rraasch04]

i was removing them to replace gasket/seals... i have oil leaking from there down into my plug area.... but after i started i said F*** it... and put it back together and leave the pos go....

[DontPassTheFence]

^^ thats exactly what I said. Randy. its a SOB to mess with the cams on this engine

[loud2kse]

it's kinda a biotch. moreso on the pre 99s