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axe1993
03-04-2007, 10:00 PM
I am the proud owner a a 2005 grand am gt.(pics soon) I am looking to make a few minor modifications. Where can I get a set of headers, a limited slip diff, and perhaps some under drive pulleys? (if they even exist)I found some of the other toys I'm looking for. I am just wanting to annoy a few puddle jumping buzz bombs. I am not looking to take on the V8 boys (just yet).I have a 472 (500 hp)caddy that will take care of them(as soon as I find something to put it in) I have to depend on this car to get me to work every day so nothing serious. low 14s will do the trick I am new to the tuner/sport compact world so any advice on mods or where to find the parts I would be great thanx

TDRDevelopment
03-05-2007, 02:22 PM
I would think twice about putting the limited slip in a daily driver. It can cause some difficulties while accelerating around corners. I had one in my 99 GP GTP. It took all my strength to hold the wheel if I was accelerating around a corner. And if I floored it around a corner, forget about holding onto the wheel. They're great in RWD stuff, but FWD cars do some funny stuff with a limited slip. But thats just my experience with those things. My advice is that your better off without one unless your running at the strip.

DomestikDemon
03-06-2007, 05:02 PM
I thought the GA had a limited slip diff. stock.....???

What your sayin is that its posi?

DomestikDemon
03-06-2007, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by axe1993
I am the proud owner a a 2005 grand am gt.(pics soon) I am looking to make a few minor modifications. Where can I get a set of headers, a limited slip diff, and perhaps some under drive pulleys? (if they even exist)I found some of the other toys I'm looking for. I am just wanting to annoy a few puddle jumping buzz bombs. I am not looking to take on the V8 boys (just yet).I have a 472 (500 hp)caddy that will take care of them(as soon as I find something to put it in) I have to depend on this car to get me to work every day so nothing serious. low 14s will do the trick I am new to the tuner/sport compact world so any advice on mods or where to find the parts I would be great thanx

Headers- Milzy Motorsports
Underdrive Pulley- Fast Forward Performance

be careful with underdrive pulleys though. Some have had issues with them not being balanced and causing the main bearings/crankshaft to wear extremely quickly. Many people on here have FFP pulleys though, and to date havent had trouble AFAIK.

BTW, Welcome to the GOAC.:)

Matt95GT
03-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by TDRDevelopment
I would think twice about putting the limited slip in a daily driver. It can cause some difficulties while accelerating around corners. I had one in my 99 GP GTP. It took all my strength to hold the wheel if I was accelerating around a corner. And if I floored it around a corner, forget about holding onto the wheel. They're great in RWD stuff, but FWD cars do some funny stuff with a limited slip. But thats just my experience with those things. My advice is that your better off without one unless your running at the strip.

Which limited slip did you have? :???: Both of my cars have a LSD... the 95 GT has a phantom grip, and my daily driver Nissan Sentra Spec V has the oem Torsen LSD. Neither are unruly on the street... in fact the addition of the LSD on the GA has made the handling much more predictable. No, it doesn't completely eliminate torque steer (any FWD will have that) but it's easier to control the car with the LSD since it will go where you aim the wheel instead of ripping a single tire loose.

Originally posted by DomestikDemon
I thought the GA had a limited slip diff. stock.....???

What your sayin is that its posi?

All FWD GA's come with an open differential.

dandragonrage
03-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by TDRDevelopment
I would think twice about putting the limited slip in a daily driver. It can cause some difficulties while accelerating around corners. I had one in my 99 GP GTP. It took all my strength to hold the wheel if I was accelerating around a corner. And if I floored it around a corner, forget about holding onto the wheel. They're great in RWD stuff, but FWD cars do some funny stuff with a limited slip. But thats just my experience with those things. My advice is that your better off without one unless your running at the strip.

I agree.


Wait, no, I thought you were talking about a spool.


I disagree.

coupe
03-07-2007, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by DomestikDemon
Headers- Milzy Motorsports
Underdrive Pulley- Fast Forward Performance

be careful with underdrive pulleys though. Some have had issues with them not being balanced and causing the main bearings/crankshaft to wear extremely quickly. Many people on here have FFP pulleys though, and to date havent had trouble AFAIK.

BTW, Welcome to the GOAC.:)


Milzy does not make headers for us.
S&S is your only option right now.

DomestikDemon
03-07-2007, 05:03 PM
Brain fart, I knew that.:doh:

99blackSE
03-07-2007, 06:25 PM
Low 14s will require, boost, nitrous, or cam.

DHP, headers, intake, exhaust, and a UDP from Fast Forward Performance if they still make them should get you high 14s.

axe1993
03-07-2007, 07:50 PM
Thanx for all the info it is nice to see I'm not the only one who enjoys these cars. This is my 2nd GA GT. I bought my wife one for x-mas in 03 and in aug of 05 some bimbo hits her at about 45 (at point of contact) with another GA. Hit so hard from rear it buckled in at the top of the car. Very sad day thankfully all she walked away with was a broken heart.I bought her this one so I could get my trailblazer from her and it didn't work so this is my new toy. I'm so broken up over that one lol. thanx and hope to share more info in the future

Peyman
03-07-2007, 09:45 PM
cold air intake and pulley...best performance mods for the buck :)

VanishingImage
03-07-2007, 11:09 PM
intake,exhaust(they go hand in hand) then possibly UDP's if you want a little quicker revs,no power gains,still a nice little mod. Headers.

That should definately get you in the 14's. Then possibly a new PCM to help make those mods a little more worth while.

ihatemygrandamg
03-08-2007, 12:01 AM
Best mods for the money IMO:

tuned pcm from either dhp,mms,or mp racing

ffp ud pulley which I dont believe they make anymore

TA^Guy
03-08-2007, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by DomestikDemon
I thought the GA had a limited slip diff. stock.....???

What your sayin is that its posi?
'Positraction' is just a GM term for Limited Slip.

LSD or not,
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/TAGuy/Other/sledr016.jpg

Sorry guys, it had to be said. lmao

VanishingImage
03-08-2007, 10:18 AM
lol, but it in the winter its FTW!:D well other than AWD:(

ihatemygrandamg
03-08-2007, 10:49 AM
Hell yea when winter comes around I wish I had a subie or a dsm ;)

TA^Guy
03-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by VanishingImage
lol, but it in the winter its FTW!:D well other than AWD:( I disagree, but that is way off topic too. Do a search and you'll see my arguement about that. :D

Back on topic sort of, a LSD in winter makes it worst to drive.
Why you have power to both wheels? You may ask. Well now think instead maybe just one wheel spinning you run into a higher chance of both wheels spinning now with less ability to control the direction of the vehicle.

I've owned several vehicles with both Limited Slip and Open differentals, a open differental on slippery surfaces is always far more predictable.

dandragonrage
03-08-2007, 01:20 PM
My Camaro does snow a lot better than my GA. It varies from car to car -- the argument that FWD is simply better in snow is a myth.

Matt95GT
03-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by TA^Guy
Back on topic sort of, a LSD in winter makes it worst to drive.
Why you have power to both wheels? You may ask. Well now think instead maybe just one wheel spinning you run into a higher chance of both wheels spinning now with less ability to control the direction of the vehicle.

I've owned several vehicles with both Limited Slip and Open differentals, a open differental on slippery surfaces is always far more predictable.

Maybe the case with RWD... otherwise I disagree. My Spec V is the first car (don't drive the GA in winter anymore, didn't have LSD when I did) that hasn't left me stuck in a parking spot when one of the front wheels has ice beneath it. When it loses traction, it tends to pull straight forward... predictable enough for winter driving.

99GrandAMSE
03-08-2007, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by TA^Guy
'Positraction' is just a GM term for Limited Slip ...

Not really John, at lest not in my understanding of the terms ... sorry, once again, for the off-topic :)

Posi-traction is, or was since they don't specifically offer it anymore as direct as it once was, if different than Limited Slip ... Posi-traction turns BOTH rear wheels are the same speed all the time (easily noticed when turning at low speed where the inside wheel will 'chirp' since it is turning at the same speed as the outside wheel) but Limited Slip spins one wheel then 'brings' in the other through the use of differential clutches, etc (in very basic and layman's terms) ... for example, my Trans Am has 'full fledge' Posi-traction while my Blazer had Limited slip.

Now, in regards to which one is better in the winter, it all depends on the type of condition or situation you want beneficial performance ... starting off on ice or deep snow would be better handled by a Posi-traction or Limited Slip being it turns both wheels in one fashion or another ... on the other hand, once both wheels are spinning, the rear of the vehicle is obviously more prone to sliding sideways or going out of control compared to a single traction device which will continue to move in a more forward motion.

No argument, just giving my thoughts :)