View Full Version : 2011 Trans Am ?????
99GrandAMSE
03-09-2007, 11:02 AM
Hmmmmmm ... the front reminds me of a Sunfire :(
curtisjade1
03-09-2007, 11:22 AM
The front does look like a sunfire but it looks pretty awsome
OhioGrandAm
03-09-2007, 11:55 AM
You should have known that was coming. If they are coming out with the Camaro, the Firebird would be close behind.
coupe
03-09-2007, 12:06 PM
Sunfire+vette= trans am :lol:
sumx4182
03-09-2007, 12:25 PM
I think this has some old school trans am in it...i like it
HondaCivicsSuck
03-09-2007, 01:49 PM
not bad... i still like the 98-02 WS6's better
Matt95GT
03-09-2007, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by coupe
Sunfire+vette= trans am :lol:
That's what I was thinking too... Sunfire front, Vette rear.
Brandon
03-09-2007, 02:11 PM
i'd roll it.
b2089
03-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Okay, is this gonna be another one of those let's salivate and do the happy dance only to find out it's not going to happen?
Is it going to be called the G12.5? ;)
TA^Guy
03-09-2007, 04:43 PM
Isn't this the same photoshop we seen a while back.
Brandon
03-09-2007, 05:40 PM
is there any links to this? i havent googled it yet, but was wonderin if anyone has seen anything? ill be in the market for a toy car then :)
MysteriousGT1
03-09-2007, 07:14 PM
its a nice chop, but last i heard GM Was not going to revive the car...Would like to see the pic bigger though!
Originally posted by MysteriousGT1
its a nice chop, but last i heard GM Was not going to revive the car...Would like to see the pic bigger though!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1103/RAYZ97/transamla7.jpg
Sorry, I can't get to photobucket at work :mad:
( from winding road magizine)
coupe
03-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by b2089
Okay, is this gonna be another one of those let's salivate and do the happy dance only to find out it's not going to happen?
thats what we all said about the GTO and Charger, Charger came out great, the GTO needs to die off......again :lol:
Originally posted by b2089
Is it going to be called the G12.5? ;)
Probably, with the way its going now i wouldnt doubt it :lol:
Originally posted by TA^Guy
Isn't this the same photoshop we seen a while back.
Yeah, im just entertaining a dead horse thats been beaten to death.
Originally posted by MysteriousGT1
its a nice chop, but last i heard GM Was not going to revive the car...Would like to see the pic bigger though!
Reffer to the above!
:lol:
TA^Guy
03-09-2007, 09:33 PM
This chop is different from the last I've seen. The last was based on the new upcoming Camaro, this one looks like a Corvette.
b2089
03-09-2007, 09:59 PM
That's a very different chop. It's the same color but the old one was a Camaro with a few tweaks. This one starts differently at the nose cone (which the old chop didn't have).
I'm going to start putting money away now.
2001GAGT
03-10-2007, 10:18 AM
It's a good start. Needs a different front clip for sure.
echoicse
03-10-2007, 11:31 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rayz
[B]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1103/RAYZ97/transamla7.jpg
GM?HOLDEN/Chevrolet/Pontiac... New Chevrolet Camaro metamorphosis into a Z28 into a IROC...while that goes on The Camaro will also metamorphosis into a Pontiac Firebird into a TransAm into..."Smokey and The Bandit"?? (Special Edition...of course)...I can see T-tops in vague again...and how-about honeycomb rims for all of us nostalgia dudes!:agree: :D
insane4speed
03-10-2007, 07:55 PM
the front almost looks like the rksport kit for the 99+
TA^Guy
03-12-2007, 12:36 AM
^^^ That thing is god aweful looking. Too long in the front and short in the rear. TAs never to be a 2 seater with a glass hatch. There isn't even a damn Shaker hood. I think my 10 yearold daughters rendering of a retro TA would look far better.
Out of the two photoshops we have see this one is FAR better!
http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/concept_Trans-am.jpg
b2089
03-12-2007, 03:38 AM
Okay, I've read the article. From what I gather it's just a pipe dream that they "hope" may possibly one day be considered to happen.
RazorDX
03-12-2007, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Matt95GT
That's what I was thinking too... Sunfire front, Vette rear.
I like that, because I loved the front of the Sunfires but the rear was godawful.
GT2000
03-12-2007, 08:07 PM
I agree with John about the older chop we have been seeing being alot better. The newest one looks like a mismatch of vette, and new and old firebird. The WS6 similar hood doesn't look good at all. If it goes retro it needs a shaker. And GTO is dead for now, and in my opinion it should stay that way, and they should bring back a bird on the zeta platform and not another goat.
sudden_impulse
03-12-2007, 08:27 PM
That rear drawing is horrible, the exhaust comes out too high to look good.
sumx4182
03-12-2007, 09:18 PM
terrible rear end...wow...
Mirage85
04-30-2007, 10:27 AM
Im a little late to the thread, but I really like it. both versions are sweet, at least, I like them better than the camaro.
Mirage85
04-30-2007, 08:15 PM
http://i8.tinypic.com/25i96pk.jpg
TA^Guy
04-30-2007, 10:09 PM
^ Those blue ones don't even resemble a TA.
ga5speed02
05-03-2007, 09:06 AM
its a sunvette or a corefire or something like that
When I saw the first concept drawings, I couldn't believe Pontiac was serious about rebadging the Camaro and calling it a Trans Am
Nighthawk243
07-17-2007, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by gir
When I saw the first concept drawings, I couldn't believe Pontiac was serious about rebadging the Camaro and calling it a Trans Am
The Pontiac Firebird (And its Trans Am package) was basically the same car as the Chevrolet Camaro. Both are F-bodies, and for the most part, they have interchangable parts.
coupe
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Nighthawk243
The Pontiac Firebird (And its Trans Am package) was basically the same car as the Chevrolet Camaro. Both are F-bodies, and for the most part, they have interchangable parts.
Kinda like the alero and grandam, same car.
Nighthawk243
07-17-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by coupe
Kinda like the alero and grandam, same car.
Or the Skylark, Achieva, and the Grand Am (For 4th Gen)
Nighthawk243
07-17-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by coupe
Kinda like the alero and grandam, same car.
Or the Skylark, Achieva, and the Grand Am (For 4th Gen)
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07-27-2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by gir
When I saw the first concept drawings, I couldn't believe Pontiac was serious about rebadging the Camaro and calling it a Trans Am
Yeah I still can't get over them rebadging the S10 to a S15/Sonoma either.
b2089
08-10-2007, 02:29 AM
I just hope they leave some classic names intact. I can see them canning the Grand Am, I disagree but I can see it. The GA was a family car in what will maybe be a performance line up so it didn't have complete heritage. The Bonneville I can see, again I disagree but I can see it. They canned it completely because as cool as I think it was people just don't want big luxury gas guzzlers. The "Sports Cadillac" is no more, unless it's really a caddy perhaps.
The G8 however proves to me that someone in charge is smoking crack. You change the Grand Prix, which is a well recognized name, to a number. PEople looking at Pontiacs will be as confused as those who try to keep up with BMWs. "Oh that's right, Pontiac doesn't name their cars, they slap a number on them and hope someone will adopt it".
Until I see proof I don't think we'll ever see a new GTO or Firebird. Well get something G-ish.
car audio dave
08-10-2007, 10:19 AM
that first chop in this thread looks like a mustang...i think thats what it was made from. look at the roof line.
and as ive said before, pontiac was smart to go to the G# naming system, similar to BMW and mercedes. how many people talk about which BMW they drive? they usually say "i drive a BMW". now, take pontiac drivers, do you drive a pontiac, or do you drive a grand am? they want more brand recognition, not model recognition. i read an article about this in a business magazine years ago.
b2089
08-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by car audio dave
that first chop in this thread looks like a mustang...i think thats what it was made from. look at the roof line.
and as ive said before, pontiac was smart to go to the G# naming system, similar to BMW and mercedes. how many people talk about which BMW they drive? they usually say "i drive a BMW". now, take pontiac drivers, do you drive a pontiac, or do you drive a grand am? they want more brand recognition, not model recognition. i read an article about this in a business magazine years ago.
I understand the logic, I just don't think it will work for Pontiac. BMW would be famous if they called their car Swiss Cheese and Poop because they make luxury cars for luxury people. A BMW owner is a BMW owner for life no matter what where as Pontiac is trying to get new customers. Also BMW offers services that Pontiac can't afford.
Pontiac is in a different market where people are shopping around. They don't say "I want to buy a Pontiac" they say "I may buy either a Sunfire or a Cavalier, I'm torn between the two". When Pontiac gives up their names they lost that war. Now it's "I like the Lumina, I know pontiac makes some version of it with a funny name, but the Lumina will do fine." Whre BMW owners came in in a BMW Pontiac owners may have driven anything, and may drive anything else when they trade. Look at this board for proof of that. Almost half the people here have dropped their GA for something else, be it GM or not (usually not).
You drive a Chevrolet for example, would you have like the Camaro as much if it were called the Chevrolet Q27?
car audio dave
08-11-2007, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by b2089
I understand the logic, I just don't think it will work for Pontiac. BMW would be famous if they called their car Swiss Cheese and Poop because they make luxury cars for luxury people. A BMW owner is a BMW owner for life no matter what where as Pontiac is trying to get new customers. Also BMW offers services that Pontiac can't afford.
Pontiac is in a different market where people are shopping around. They don't say "I want to buy a Pontiac" they say "I may buy either a Sunfire or a Cavalier, I'm torn between the two". When Pontiac gives up their names they lost that war. Now it's "I like the Lumina, I know pontiac makes some version of it with a funny name, but the Lumina will do fine." Whre BMW owners came in in a BMW Pontiac owners may have driven anything, and may drive anything else when they trade. Look at this board for proof of that. Almost half the people here have dropped their GA for something else, be it GM or not (usually not).
You drive a Chevrolet for example, would you have like the Camaro as much if it were called the Chevrolet Q27?
i see your point, but pontiac is trying to change things so that people dont compare the chevy version to their version...think about it, who wants to be an alternative. they want people to drop of their other car and pick up a pontiac. name of the model shouldnt be important other than to signify the size of the body and the engine.
I know we think of this as a BMW strategy, but other brands can do this, BMW is just one of the first to be successful at it. Saab has been doing this forever, same as Audi, Mercedes, jaguar and even porsche to some degree. Jeep has this too, even tho they did it a different way. most people say they drive a jeep, not a wrangler or a grand cherokee. why cant pontiac do this? its strange to us cus its never been this way, but keep an open mind...things are changing.
and id drive my car if it were called a chevy Q27. i drive it because i like the car, but because of what its called, altho id tell people i drive a chevy, not a Q27.
TA^Guy
08-11-2007, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by b2089
The G8 however proves to me that someone in charge is smoking crack. You change the Grand Prix, which is a well recognized name, to a number. PEople looking at Pontiacs will be as confused as those who try to keep up with BMWs. "Oh that's right, Pontiac doesn't name their cars, they slap a number on them and hope someone will adopt it".
Are you completely forgetting about cars like the Pontiac T1000, J2000, 4000 STE, ect?
Originally posted by b2089
Also BMW offers services that Pontiac can't afford.
What services? Oh you mean their horrible reliability?
Originally posted by b2089
Pontiac is in a different market where people are shopping around. They don't say "I want to buy a Pontiac" they say "I may buy either a Sunfire or a Cavalier, I'm torn between the two". When Pontiac gives up their names they lost that war. Now it's "I like the Lumina, I know pontiac makes some version of it with a funny name, but the Lumina will do fine." Whre BMW owners came in in a BMW Pontiac owners may have driven anything, and may drive anything else when they trade. Look at this board for proof of that. Almost half the people here have dropped their GA for something else, be it GM or not (usually not).
First off most non-enthusiasts don't know that two or three cars are built on the same platform.
Trading in for something different is all across the market. I know many people who have owned BMWs before and will never again, I also know people with VW that say the same, Ford, Nissan, even Toyota. It's no different.
Originally posted by b2089
You drive a Chevrolet for example, would you have like the Camaro as much if it were called the Chevrolet Q27? To be honest I don't buy a car for it's name, I buy it for how it looks and performs. If that were the case I wouldn't have bought my Xtreme. I have the name "Xtreme" it's such a cliche'.
Originally posted by car audio dave
i see your point, but pontiac is trying to change things so that people dont compare the chevy version to their version...think about it, who wants to be an alternative. they want people to drop of their other car and pick up a pontiac. name of the model shouldnt be important other than to signify the size of the body and the engine. Exactly, and with them using rebadged cars from non american markets (still GM vehicle, still a domestic car) there will be no alternative name for it.
Just wait, GM will have be snagging some BMW sales as soon as the G8 is released. More affordable, better reliaility, domestic power, and something brand new that the yuppy next door wont have.
b2089
08-13-2007, 01:15 AM
I was trying to forget the T1000, hardly evidence that the number system will work since they abandoned it then.
I hope Pontiac can pull it off, but I don't see it. Pontiac is just rebranded Chevrolet and giving them stupid names gives Chevy a big advantage.
I know they want to be special, they need to be special, but are they when Chevy gets the identical car, sometimes with more options?
Until Pontiac is taken from under the thumb can it really shine?
Is the g8 itself going to be unique or is it going to be a re-badge when Chevy, Saturn, and probably Buick get one?
If Chevy and Saturn have one (It's the lumina, right) then will the g# still give them an edge brandwise or will it make them forgettable?
I hope they can do it, but I doubt it. I think the g# will be a handicap and I hope they can survive it.
TA^Guy
08-13-2007, 01:44 AM
Well thats is the thing, Pontiacs won't be rebadged chevrolets any longer. The G6 has no counter part in the US, nor does the G8. So yes, they will be special. Even if they weren;t, they have always been that way, same fors for many Buick and Oldsmobiles, but they still charge more for them over the Chevrolet and still sell enough to stay in bussiness.
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