HID a No No?

[bandit307]

Some interesting knowledge here.

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3505

[Gagt518]

Im too lazy to make an account....

[boost21]

awsome site, im a member. Hids are illegal, as most know. dropping a rebased d2s bulb in a reflector housing thats optics arent made for it causes unsafe glare for others. Retro or bust (still illegal but much better on the eyes)

[HornetGT141]

I think I may be stupid but are Sylvania SilverStars/SilverStar Ultras still halogen and ok? I'm getting confused on if those ultra bright white and blue lights that Sylvania makes for specific models of cars and if they are HID are not. Any explanation is appreciated, sorry if this is nubish, haha. :lol:

[Gagt518]

I dont have the time to explain it to you now but in simple words Sylvania SilverStars/SilverStar Ultras are Halogen and they are not considered HID's

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by HornetGT141
I think I may be stupid but are Sylvania SilverStars/SilverStar Ultras still halogen and ok? I'm getting confused on if those ultra bright white and blue lights that Sylvania makes for specific models of cars and if they are HID are not. Any explanation is appreciated, sorry if this is nubish, haha. :lol:
Silverstars and any bulbs that will plug right into your Grand Am's socket is not a true HID. They are halogen bulbs coated to produce a light to simulate HID.

HID (High Intensity Discharge) are special bulbs that use a ballast much like a florecent light does.

[HornetGT141]

Ahhh ok, thanks Tom and John. :)

[VanishingImage]

Thinking about buying the black housing headlights for my 97 Grand Am and getting the HID Planet's HID pojections kits,reasonably priced. 400 bucks for a kit WITH projectors,not bad. Rather then paying 300 for just bulbs,ballast and harness,you get the projectors as well(a good 200 more sometimes)

[bballr4567]

Yea but sometimes you get crappy projectors and they just suck at aiming the light. best to pay top notch when it comes to stuff like lighting and tires I say.

[Sweet98GA]

I can promise you right now that HID's with black housing headlights SUCK BALLS! I may not have projectors, and that may be the problem, but I really can't drive my car at night in the "woods" anymore... any by woods I mean areas of less population where there arent street lights, or buildings, or anything to light up the road in any way

[bandit307]

Yea but sometimes you get crappy projectors and they just suck at aiming the light. best to pay top notch when it comes to stuff like lighting and tires I say.

FTW

Im going with a Bi-xenon HID Projector retrofit when time and money permits.

[Peyman]

Originally posted by Sweet98GA
I can promise you right now that HID's with black housing headlights SUCK BALLS! I may not have projectors, and that may be the problem, but I really can't drive my car at night in the "woods" anymore... any by woods I mean areas of less population where there arent street lights, or buildings, or anything to light up the road in any way

hey... what kind of hid kit do you have?... w/ my blk headlights, the light output from my hids didnt decrease... and if it did... maybe the slightest bit where its not even noticable...and i dont see why it would decrease light output since the reflecor inside the headlight is not black...

[boost21]

Originally posted by bandit307
FTW

Im going with a Bi-xenon HID Projector retrofit when time and money permits.

you might want to do a little more research with that. noone has done it before because space is an issue. i think the only bi-xenon projector that might be able to fit is the FX35/45
GL tho :D

[Sweet98GA]

It's Dustin's old kit. He got it from HIDStore.com I think they are 6000k

It also could be that they are not angled properly as I have not adjusted them since I put them in so once I get the car back when the charger is done i'll have to revisit this thread and update my situation

[Peyman]

on my blk headlights it was easier and nice to adjust the aim of the headlight opposed to the oem ones... also it threw out the beam of the headlights alot better then the oem... lol good luck!

[Big Joe]

Originally posted by Sweet98GA
It's Dustin's old kit. He got it from HIDStore.com I think they are 6000k

It also could be that they are not angled properly as I have not adjusted them since I put them in so once I get the car back when the charger is done i'll have to revisit this thread and update my situation

Gus you should look into ajusting them. I dont think the headlights are the problem cause the part that reflects the light it still the chrome color as it is on the stock headlights. The only thing that is black is the parts that dont have anything to do with reflecting light out, like the bottom of the light.

[96gagt4door]

iv got a HID set up with black housing headlights and i have no problems...

[VanishingImage]

any pics??

[Peyman]

output w/ blk headlights

[Sweet98GA]

LOL yeah I HAVE to be out of adjustment cause my shit looks NOTHING like that

[bballr4567]

Holy bright lights!!!

[V6Kid]

He's the kinda bastard that blinds me while I drive down the street going to fast to be blinded. I really, really need to get brighter lights. My covers dim my main lights so much, my fogs have to be on to see the road at night. I only want to spend around 100 dollars, so what should I do?

[boost21]

Originally posted by V6Kid
He's the kinda bastard that blinds me while I drive down the street going to fast to be blinded. I really, really need to get brighter lights. My covers dim my main lights so much, my fogs have to be on to see the road at night. I only want to spend around 100 dollars, so what should I do?
why not just remove the covers at night....

[Gagt518]

Originally posted by V6Kid
He's the kinda bastard that blinds me while I drive down the street going to fast to be blinded. I really, really need to get brighter lights. My covers dim my main lights so much, my fogs have to be on to see the road at night. I only want to spend around 100 dollars, so what should I do? The covers arnt made for you to keep them on during the night..

[Peyman]

Originally posted by V6Kid
He's the kinda bastard that blinds me while I drive down the street going to fast to be blinded. I really, really need to get brighter lights. My covers dim my main lights so much, my fogs have to be on to see the road at night. I only want to spend around 100 dollars, so what should I do?

why dont u take the covers completley off.... it will take away from the rice look... plus i remember back in the day when i had those covers on for a week... couldnt see ANYTHING at night w/ them on... its not worth it... heres a pic of my car w/ them ...WOW THAT WAS BACK IN THE DAY

[Gagt518]

I like the covers but i think you should take them off during the night..Might be a PIA everyday but you would beable to see again

[car audio dave]

my car had crappy output before projectors, and crappy output after too. lol it was probably the stupid 12000k bulbs i had. i would have bought 6000k bulbs if i had kept the car.

i have silverstar ultras now, and the output is WAY better than stock.

if they only made my fogs in ultras as well...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2536000-2536999/2536801_91_full.jpg

[bandit307]

you might want to do a little more research with that. noone has done it before because space is an issue. i think the only bi-xenon projector that might be able to fit is the FX35/45

With proper planning and placement i beleive the RS6/A6 Bi-Xenon ECE Projectors will fit in the housing without issues. I know fitment is the biggest issue and i am in the process of finding a good set of Bi-xenons that will fit.

[boost21]

Originally posted by bandit307
With proper planning and placement i beleive the RS6/A6 Bi-Xenon ECE Projectors will fit in the housing without issues. I know fitment is the biggest issue and i am in the process of finding a good set of Bi-xenons that will fit.
im not sure if your a member but i believe hidtech tried doing the retrofit with the rs6's and couldnt get them to fir and ended up using the e46/audi tt projector singles. i would love to see it done tho :)

[bandit307]

Hmmm. see this is a really difficult situation. Considering i dont want to order a set and see that they dont fit. Maybe i will just go with what has been tried and proven. I will keep the research going though.

[Peyman]

dave make me a set of projector headlights :)

Originally posted by car audio dave
my car had crappy output before projectors, and crappy output after too. lol it was probably the stupid 12000k bulbs i had. i would have bought 6000k bulbs if i had kept the car.

i have silverstar ultras now, and the output is WAY better than stock.

if they only made my fogs in ultras as well...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2536000-2536999/2536801_91_full.jpg

[oldsy]

theres hidtech.com or illusion-lighting.com i had illusion light doing mine they looked great untill they showed were all http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_censored.gifed inside but u would of had to cut the metal behind the headlamp to make some room.......

here are some pics of the turn out... http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/423000-423999/423499_89_full.jpg

and it was no 300 project eaither

i ended up going back to the hid in my stock headlamps, i have been running this setup for 2 years now and i have not once been bugged by the cops, just gotta make sure u aim them down a bit more.

[Peyman]

Originally posted by oldsy
theres hidtech.com or illusion-lighting.com i had illusion light doing mine they looked great untill they showed were all http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_censored.gifed inside but u would of had to cut the metal behind the headlamp to make some room.......


Those look good... but i dont understand... what was wrong with them?.. and why arent you using them?

[rraasch04]

has anyone ever used the HID kits off of OZNIUM.com? I have been looking into for a couple days and deciding whether to go with them or not. Few quick questions since i am not sure and dont feel like spending 250$ without knowing:
They will fit ok with black headlights?
i dont need to rewire the headlights?

For 235 i dont know what to think, cheap and crappy, or are they just coming down in price? From the reviews on the site they sound good but i know how that can go. I see black GAGT, anyone know who that might be?
Thanks!

[Gagt518]

I have 8K Hid's that came from Oznium and believe me they were well worth it! It's one of my best mods ive done so far.They plug in your stock wiring system so there's no needs to re-wire anything. And they also a direct fit .If you have the extra $235 then i say go for it, you wont be disappointed:)

[oldsy]

Originally posted by Peyman
Those look good... but i dont understand... what was wrong with them?.. and why arent you using them?


when it came the paint on the trim was all chipped, and they did not bend the trim enough cuz there was a hole and when they mounted the projector they did not keep in mind that the aiming rods so they would of had to start all over from scratch.....there for i no longer have them, got refunded....

[Peyman]

Originally posted by oldsy
when it came the paint on the trim was all chipped, and they did not bend the trim enough cuz there was a hole and when they mounted the projector they did not keep in mind that the aiming rods so they would of had to start all over from scratch.....there for i no longer have them, got refunded....

wow did they pay for your headlights too that they messed up?

[oldsy]

Originally posted by Peyman
wow did they pay for your headlights too that they messed up?

i got everything back minus shipping

[Peyman]

Originally posted by oldsy
i got everything back minus shipping

so you got any future plans to do some projectors again?...

[oldsy]

Originally posted by Peyman
so you got any future plans to do some projectors again?...

nope, buying a house is the plan

[TEXASGRANDAM]

Originally posted by Sweet98GA
I can promise you right now that HID's with black housing headlights SUCK BALLS! I may not have projectors, and that may be the problem, but I really can't drive my car at night in the "woods" anymore... any by woods I mean areas of less population where there arent street lights, or buildings, or anything to light up the road in any way i love my projectors and h.i.d.'s are bad ass they light up the road and they have the cut offs as to not blind oncoming traffic 100% legal i got them off a totaled gm vehicle and did the mods to get them to work on the ga i get many compliments on them:)

[oldsy]

take some better pics if u can, i would not mind seeing some close ups....

[TEXASGRANDAM]

who me ?

[TEXASGRANDAM]

well anyways here you go..........

[Peyman]

lets see some pics of the cut off :)

[oldsy]

pics during the day of no light one, just wanna see the setup

[TEXASGRANDAM]

Originally posted by Peyman
lets see some pics of the cut off :) the cut off is internal i would have to pull apart my projectors to do it i wouldnt mind showing you guys a break down of it if you really wanted me to its time consuming so patience is a must,although i cant do it today im helping out my neighbor with his mustang just wanted to stop in for a minute just give me a chance to tear down my lights:eek:

[bandit307]

Im pretty sure peyman meant the cut-oof up against a wall or something. The beam cut-off not the actually cut-off plate in the projector housing.

[Peyman]

lol yeh the cut off light against the wall ... THE LIGHT OUTPUT :)

[TEXASGRANDAM]

oh my bad well give me a second then its almost dark out

[TimG]

My predictions...GLARE

: )

[TEXASGRANDAM]

Originally posted by TimG
My predictions...GLARE

: ) not really little man:eek:i'll get a better one later.

[TimG]

I'm not going to argue with you, I know I'm right.

EDIT

I didn't see that you WERE using projectors. What kind do you use? I was under the assumption you were like everyone else, just throw a PnP kit into your car and call it a day.

[TEXASGRANDAM]

i'll show everybody in my tear down till then please be patient