Grand am projection headlight problem**

[Fyrious]

so i broke down and bought the projection headlights for the 99-2005 grand am. the ones on CustomGrandAm or Ebay. Not the AED ones.

anyway, so the thing says plug and play... HA! ya, the main headlight is plug and play the LED blinkers and Angel eyes are just wires, you have to figure it out yourself.

alright that was no biggy, got that set up no real problems.


However, where i ran into problems was when i went to slide the nice new all wired and ready to go projection headlights back into their homes.

they don't fit right. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem and what they did to fix it. currently i cut parts and broke off some plastic to make more room, which helped alittle. but they still don't fit well, and currently its 10:13 and i work tomorrow morning, so they've been Zip Tied into place.

i figure that'll hold for at least tomorrow, its just like a 5min drive to my work. so Zip ties will hold. but i need to figure out something better.

soooo... if anyone has had this issue, let me know.


I'll get some pictures tomorrow... i've spent about 3-4 hours with these headlights, they look KICKASS!!!! but im too tired to take pictures and im going to bed. lol.

But they do look sweet, i just need to figure out how to get them to stay in place better....

[Bouchie11982]

you mean they don't fit into the stock bracket in the car? liek teh three little adjusters don't fit?

[YEVNTRY]

There is a guy over on aed that already worked out all the bugs heres the link

http://www.aedcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=5636

[Fyrious]

yeeep. they slide in, but they don't slide back far enough to lock them into place.

[Bouchie11982]

it is just the one on the far right, the one closest to the fender? you can just screw the thing all the way out, but not off.... click it in and then adjust it later

[Fyrious]

sweet... thanks!

[Bouchie11982]

i hope that is what your problem was :) hope it helped :)

[Mirage]

ok, i just got these and it was alot easier than i thought. i got them in in an hour.
the reason some ppl probobly dremeled the plastic out is becuase it is a customers car, but if it is your own car, try this: smash that plastic that the projector hangs up on with a hammer or break it off with some pliers, right in the center. it only needs to be as big as the one projector. nobody will ever see that plastic. thats the quick way to do it as my brother had the dremel at his house so i had no choice. then they slid right in. just put the adjusters where your stock lights were, measure how much of the rod is sticking out.
the problem that they dont slide in all the way is the one projector in the center of the housing bumps against the plastic retainer. it needs to go back a half inch or 1 inch, just get rid of the plastic in the center! hope this helps/
the leds and halos arent as bright as i thought they would be but maybe there is just too much light in the garage. ill see tonight i guess.

[Fyrious]

meh, as far as the light goes, mine look nice, i have the angel eyes hooked up to go on with the driving light, and go off when the highbeams are on.

projection lights arn't bright, you'll end up driving with your highbeams on alot if you live in the country. if your in the city, theres enough light you don't even need headlights.

as far as fitting them, i did kinda the same thing, i took a reciprocating saw and cut out alot of that plastic thats like in the houseing for the headlight and it fit in alot better. as far as the adjusters i just put them back further and like ya the headlight sits out a bit, but its not that bad. im happy.

[Mirage]

im actually hoping it does sit out, as my headlights always looks too far back. maybe it was the kit and hood, or just a trick of the eyes.
i live in the suburbs so i do alot of driving with street lamps around, but i drive everywhere so ithikn im going to find some brighter h1 bulbs. these dont look too bright

[MantaGreen97]

Originally posted by Fyrious
meh, as far as the light goes, mine look nice, i have the angel eyes hooked up to go on with the driving light, and go off when the highbeams are on.

projection lights arn't bright, you'll end up driving with your highbeams on alot if you live in the country. if your in the city, theres enough light you don't even need headlights.]
LOL don't even need headlights! I guess you might feel that way if you're used to driving with zero street lights--when you come into the city you think it's daytime in comparison, haha.

Interesting that these things don't fit without modification, I mean if they are made for the car they should fit properly; or at least you would think so. Someone should contact the manufacturer and let them know. Oh wait who am I kidding, these are probably in some far off factory in China, lol. In that case perhaps contact one of the distributors and maybe they can relay that back to the manufacturer for future correction?

As for them not being that bright, that's pretty much why it's a good idea to use HIDs in projectors (and conversely why you want projectors if you use HIDs) ;)

[Mirage]

they must be made in china becuase there is even chinese writoing on the instructions! heheh. man that sucks! can the us make anything nowadays, and not have it be twice the price?
anyhow, i am writing the people on thier ebay shop, becuase A. it took 2 weeks to ship, which is too long even for ups ground which is a max of 10 days, so i was kind of annoyed. and b. the fitment problem. you would think these people would test fit them first on the car. maybe they just went by the headlight. either way, if that one projector was in another 3/4 or so it would be fine.

[Fyrious]

ya it does suck that they don't fit perfectly. but at the same time, we don't drive a car thats in high demand for performance parts or appearance modifications, we should just be glad they actaully made headlights like these for our cars.

and for the price, they really arn't that bad. they look hella cool. lol

my car is black and i got the black housing projection ones, they look sweet IMO.

i wanna get the cleared black tail lights now. then after that all i'll need are some nice 18in black rims with the silver lip. lol

she'll look mean.

[XoticGA]

can you post some pics? I've been eyeballin those for a while..

[Mirage]

fryrious lets get some pics for these fellas. i wont have mine till tommorow cus i have to put the other one in still and adjust them tonight and ill take pics tommorow

[Fyrious]

http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006062685862725776


Thats the best i could do, im currently packing and getting ready to go camping tomorrow.

so these are just some quick pictures, and yes i know my car is dirty.

if your lucky, i plan on washing my car tonight, maybe i'll take some pictures and post some night shots.

[Mirage]

hey im going camping tommorow too. we got the headlights in though dangnabit! lol i wanted to get themin b4 i left. im on my way out to adjut them right now. i see yours do the same thing, they stick out a bit on the fender sides.

[exiter]

wow
i have been looking at these same lights myself...
they do stick out there i must say...

i wonder if there's any way of sucking those babies in a little?

[VanishingImage]

looks good!

Hopefully the 96-98 Grand Am's are next for them!

We got the black housings headlights after the 99+ so hopefully we get them too

[TA^Guy]

Originally posted by Fyrious
meh, as far as the light goes, mine look nice, i have the angel eyes hooked up to go on with the driving light, and go off when the highbeams are on.

projection lights arn't bright, you'll end up driving with your highbeams on alot if you live in the country. if your in the city, theres enough light you don't even need headlights.

as far as fitting them, i did kinda the same thing, i took a reciprocating saw and cut out alot of that plastic thats like in the houseing for the headlight and it fit in alot better. as far as the adjusters i just put them back further and like ya the headlight sits out a bit, but its not that bad. im happy.
Damn, sounbds like a crappy deal, however glad you got it to work.

And yes, most aftermarket projection beam headlights are junk compaired to stock.

[Mirage]

i think the reason these lights look like they stick out more than they really are might have to do with the way that side reflector is.. it might fool the eye a little bit. they do stick out but looking at them tonight i think the reflector sideways like that made it worse.
they were spot on when i pulled it out and shined them on the door, so i didnt need to do any further adjustment but they were in as far as i could get em and they stick out a little bit. HOWEVER in my case im glad it had those bigger gaskets, my headlight sockets like to sag on the aed kit a little, im always having to boost them up with foam and these bigger gaskets helped it look more "filled in". havent hooked up the halos yet but did take a hit on the light output from those crappy H1 bulbs. the brights are nice but nothing like my hella xenon blues.. oh well. cant have everything.

[Fyrious]

like i said, i wasn't expecting them to fit perfectly because well as i said our car isn't in high demand for aftermarket parts.

but i got them to fit, and im happy. and they look a hell of alot better then my old stock lights.. ugh, they were all scatched up and like fogged/frosted from wear and tear. they looked really bad.

so these are a big upgrade compared to my stock ones. just the nice new clear lens alone looks so much better, lol.



but ya, also note you have to wire up the Angel eyes and L.E.D side markers yourself, its not that hard. but its definitly more then what they say... they are NOT plug and play.



now im going to bed, and tomorrow im going to Wasaga Beach! WHOOHOO!!!

[eblend]

I got mine to fit without them sticking out at all, they fit nice and flush like the OEMs. It did involve cutting the metal bracket on the fender side a little bit to make sure the projector fits in before the metal clip goes down to secure it in its place.

Pics here
http://www.dmitribobko.com/Dmitri/PICTURES/Car%20Pictures/New%20Pictures/Projector%20Headlights/

[car audio dave]

Originally posted by eblend
I got mine to fit without them sticking out at all, they fit nice and flush like the OEMs. It did involve cutting the metal bracket on the fender side a little bit to make sure the projector fits in before the metal clip goes down to secure it in its place.

Pics here
http://www.dmitribobko.com/Dmitri/PICTURES/Car%20Pictures/New%20Pictures/Projector%20Headlights/

DAMN! your car is lookign really good. that cutoff looks nice but i think the headlights need to be adjusted a bit.

[Mirage]

your pics are huge! omg!
heres a few shots of mine i just put them in last night, thankfully they were spot on and needed nop further adjustment. i got lucky.

[Mirage]

closeup. they dont stick out all too bad, just a real tight fit

[Mirage]

night. i did write the company about the problem with the plastic and thta they are NOT just plug and play no modification needed.

[Gagt518]

Wow they look alot better than i thought they were, but only the black ones..the chrome projectors look like:shit:

[tenspeed]

Headlights have three legs. Two are the adjustments for the left/right and up/down. The third leg adjusts how far the light sticks out or in.

Get the third leg set first, the other two pivot around it. Take some measurements off the old light third leg to get get it close

[Bouchie11982]

i like the black ones ALOT better. but they look so damn hot on your car Adam!! i think it's set off the CF hood and the gold.
you didn't have any troubles hooking them up?

[Peyman]

looks pretty nice...lets see some shots of just the angel eyes on at night

['96GAGT]

I have NEVER seen these on eBay..
hmm

[ancona46]

i think ill pass i like having my hid's but they do look good!

[GarciaNY]

the nighttime pics look sick,those lights are awesome

[Peyman]

adam those headlights look hella good on ur car

[03graystone]

i heard that the headlights instructions tell you that you cannot use HID lighting kits with these. i guess the plastic is cheap and will melt. that sucks, cause i need high light output. i guess someone let me know if they put in aftermarket xenon bulbs in H1 (you know just the bulbs, $12-$30 etc) and see if it makes a difference. the thing that does suck, even with my aftermarket clear heads, is you need to aim them for output, but when you do you give up fitment regarding looks haha. im still gettin these, cause even if their not bright enough i have a custom fog idea and they will contain a real HID kit.

[03graystone]

actually lookin through that guys pics, it seems like the heads give off a nice light. who knows, ill have to see for myself. everyone has different views and lighting situations where you live, what bulbs you used before and whatnot lol. it all differs. ill keep you guys posted when i get mine.

[exiter]

mmmm.they do like nice in these new set of pics!
:D

[c45p3r]

where can a person pick up a set of the angel eyes for a 2002 grand am i am still having trouble looking for them online i can find them for ever other make and model but not the grand am some one please help

[tenspeed]

You can buy Angel driving lights that replace the fog lights. The projectors with the Angel eyes are on Ebay. The BMW CCFL lights in the OEM lights are custom made.

[Nighthawk243]

Too bad they don't make those for the 4th gen, I'd be all over it.

[Mirage]

i dont have the angel eyes hooked up yet, but the high beams are hella brighter, like blinding if you look at them head on.

[VanishingImage]

Very nice!

I don't see why you couldn't use HID's....As long as the bulb isn't touching anything it shouldn't be any more different then The Silverstarts and what not. Those get hot as well. Kind of like exhaust tips,as long as they don't touch the bumper,they don't melt anything

[Nighthawk243]

Originally posted by 03graystone
i heard that the headlights instructions tell you that you cannot use HID lighting kits with these. i guess the plastic is cheap and will melt. that sucks, cause i need high light output. i guess someone let me know if they put in aftermarket xenon bulbs in H1 (you know just the bulbs, $12-$30 etc) and see if it makes a difference. the thing that does suck, even with my aftermarket clear heads, is you need to aim them for output, but when you do you give up fitment regarding looks haha. im still gettin these, cause even if their not bright enough i have a custom fog idea and they will contain a real HID kit.

Hids shouldn't have that much heat.

The issue is that the HID Kits are not meant for non-HID designed lights. Its just something they have to put in there for legal reasons, as retrofitting a non-HID designed car tends to be illegal due to the beam patterns.

[Fyrious]

the angel eyes make it even sweeter... i really need to get some damn night shots of the angel eyes.

however, they arn't quite as bright as the picture they give you is. like on ebay, they look crazy bright (the angel eyes), but they arn't overly bright. i dunno, i've never had angel eyes before, so maybe its just me. but i was expecting like a really really bright blue. and well, they are a blue ring, but its not as bright as i was expecting. but it still looks hella cool and is visible when u have them on, even with the projectors on the angel eyes are still quite visible.

[Nighthawk243]

Ebay's photos are taken in different lighting conditions. Usually outdoors is a diffrent animal and the light appears different.

[VanishingImage]

looking at the light pictures post,the cutoff looks pretty good,don't see why HID's wouldn't be fine. As long as there is a good cutoff and there are no hot spots,should be fine to use. Plus don't projectors kind of hinder the output in the first place?

[bewd03]

ok i found a site that has a few good diy mods for you cars so i'am posting it. http://www.importmodifications.com/articles/angeleyes.html.

Its for every car but ours but you can mod any of these to fit your car.

[tenspeed]

That site was posted a couple of years ago.

The new trend is to use CCFL's (cold cathode florescent light). You can get BMW kits on ebay. Some people use the rings out of lighted computer fans. The light output is much more than the LED's.

[Mirage]

ok im really pissed. my headlights are PEELING. like its some kind of clearcoat they put on there and its bubbling up and peeling off. i thought it was just some kind of protectant plastic but its not. especially on the pass side. this really pisses me off i dont have time to be swapping these in and out and returning them. anyone else having this problem?

[03graystone]

i heard of this happening, man this sucks hearin this because im picky with my car, and to have the peeling that would suck. im almost ready to just get an HID kit for my current all clear headlights and call it a day lol.

[Mirage]

ok, i found yet ANOTHER flaw in these taiwanese peices of shit tonight while hooking up the angel eyes. everything was fine, they looked awesome. i go to pull it in the garage again and turn them off.. one ring is still faintly glowing. i took everyhting apart, checked everything.. finally narrowed it down to the headlight socket being plugged in and then it happens.. ok, looked some more- saw it can come on withno power wire attached and just ground.it ended up being the led for the angel eye ring on the OTHER side of the headlight apparently touching something and giving it power. when i push on the led socket in the other angel ring, the one thats still on goes OFF, so it must be touching something metal that is somehow on the housing and running through the headlight socket power wire.. this is BULLSHIT and it is not something that should ever happen. so now i have to somehow find a way to keep pressure on the other angel eye led to make the other one not come on.. what a load of crap. im beat its the middle of the night i have been screwing with these things forever i did not want to take that damn headlight back out and im on my last nerve with these things and im ready to take them out in the street and pound these motherhttp://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_censored.gifers into the http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_censored.gifing ashphalt with a http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_censored.gifing SLEDGEHAMMER!!! :mad:
DO NOT BUY THESE GARBAGE HEADLIGHTS NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY LOOK :pissed:

[Peyman]

wow thanks for the heads up...sucks that they are such crap...

[Nighthawk243]

If it is grounding out, some electrical tape should help. Just wrap the metal surfaces where the LED would be contacting.

[Mirage]

i was going to, but the led pack on that side is almost impossible to get out. its shoved in there under some other stuff, and i think the problem is in the housing its in and not just behind it. i smashed it with a screwdriver a few times and bent back the tabs. it didnt do it again so i shoved the headlights back in. these things suck.

jim have you installed yours yet?

[tenspeed]

Originally posted by Mirage
jim have you installed yours yet?

I might give it a go later this week. I have been reading about all the problems others have had, so I'll be taking sets to prevent them. I already got some PIAA H1 bulbs to increase the high beam output.

[Fyrious]

as far as the angel eyes go, thats your OWN wiring problem/fault.
i wired mine up and have not had a single problem so far.


but ya, i've had the same thing, this thin layer of film, almost like a clearcoat is pealing off. i just went out and picked off what i could with my fingers, and meh, its fine now actually.

but ya, im finding out too, that these lights might not be worth the money they are.

but ive already forked over the money and they've been installed for like a month now, so theres no taking them back. and they still look better then the stock ones.

[Mirage]

it was really no fault of my own, something they assembled in that one socket was toching something metal on thier housing and giving it power, with no wires attached at all., it would go off when i pressed on the led socket. i had to move it around in there to make it stop.
but anyhow, heres some pictures of them its hard to get pics of the light with our camera but they area blueish white.

[Mirage]

closeup

[Mirage]

one more.. its hard to get the blueish they look so white but it is kinda blueish- green.

[Peyman]

those night pics look badass adam... too bad the headlights suck... i might eventually buy a set...use my lenses from my black headlights...and put some better quality projectors in there ...hmm ??

[Fyrious]

they do look cool, thats the thing. like once ya figure them out, they are amazing, its just getting past the few bumps in the road, but with any project car or part, i guess your bound to come across a problem sooner or later.

[Mirage]

fyr how high up on the garage door do your blinders start? i think mine might be a little low im not sure, i cant get them up any higher without creating a gap underneath but that might be just the aed kit, but i dont know how high the beam is "supposed" to be

[Fyrious]

lol, mine are low.

like with just the projections on, when im driving on a dark road. i've got them so they shine about... 10 metres infront of the car. after that they die off, its like a sudden drop off of light. no fading, just BAM, no light.

not 100% sure if thats the aiming, or just the bulbs. but they do seem kinda low.

im just glad the high beams are bright.


i'll have to double check, i really didn't aim them properly. once i got them in i was just kinda fed up at the time and left'em.

[03graystone]

yeah work is work, seems what you have to do with custom things, but yeah i think these may not be worth the money. im gonna wait till they clearance them out like the other oem/clear/black ones, which can be gotten for 150 now lol.

[Mirage]

they might also never drop. the taillights are all the same price still i think. if they are popular enough the price will prob stay as is. 295 is pretty cheap for projector angel eye headlights, no matter where they are from.

[chitown16]

do you guys think that maybe the peeling can be prevented by putting one of those clearfilms they make for protecting the headlights lens........maybe putting the clear film on once installed ????what you guys think????

[pontiacguy20025]

Can anyone explain to me why is it that grand am parts are so expensive, yet they are parts made of crappy material?? Poor quality, and like the headlights poor fitments. If our parts are so expensive they should at least be good quality and plug and play type parts. :( :( :( Expensive................

[bandit307]

Expensive compared to what? You could pick up a set of AED projectors, great fitment, great quality, and great light output from what i have read. But your gona pay the price for it all.

[pontiacguy20025]

wheres the link to AED? :)

[bandit307]

http://www.aedcentral.com:8181/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi?&shop=city&cart=66601562x324&session=46b666050144425a&L=eng&Category=10001

[pontiacguy20025]

damn........................http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/shocked016.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)$700???? lol.. forget it. im sticking to stock.

[bandit307]

Custom is the way to go if you have the fab skills. If you can DIY then you will save the money, its just like going out for dinner, you pay for someone else to make it for you.

[ancona46]

i just got a set of these and all the wires in the socket were wrong the lights would only light the pass low beam and tripped the high beam indicator.....i fixed that but now my problem is both bulbs are on with the low beams what gives?

[msaulnier]

Hey mirage, i was lookin at buyin those projectors, but i have no idea how to set them up? could you make some sort of guide on how you did it? I'd love to get them but i'm terrible at rigging things up :( also i'm curious as to what bodykit you have on your car. It looks hot!

[Fyrious]

i just got a set of these and all the wires in the socket were wrong the lights would only light the pass low beam and tripped the high beam indicator.....i fixed that but now my problem is both bulbs are on with the low beams what gives?

can you take a picture of what wiring you did, i haven't checked this page in a while. Or explain alittle more the problem, im not sure i follow.

but the main headlights should be plug and play, there shouldn't be any problems with them. When their both on, that could be the day light "driving lights" setting, not sure. from my memory the problem is wiring up the turn signals, those arn't plug and play, or at least to get the 3 L.E.D's to stay on. i wired the L.E.D.'s with the turn signal, if that helps at all.

[ancona46]

i havent messed with the leds...i dont want them as turn signals im gonna wire them up to the halos and use a seperate switch

the main headlights on mine definetly were not plug and play

[Fyrious]

thats weird... well, maybe tomorrow i'll try and take a picture of the wiring i did on mine and post the picture to give you an idea of what was done or what could be done.

but i could have sworn the main bulbs were plug and play.

[ancona46]

ok cool....yours probly were mine were just screwed up the guy who i traded with said he held them up to his car and didnt like them....yea right he couldnt get them to work

[ancona46]

this is what i got notice both bulbs on but when i hit the highs the one shuts off and the one goes bright like they should ...so im lost
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ancona46/My%20Car/halloween07019.jpg

[Fyrious]

alright, well i have some pictures, but im also uploading a video, which IMO is WAY better then the pictures, my camera i have currently isn't that great at taking close up pictures.

the video is being "processed" by google, so it'll be up shortly and then i'll post the link.

but for now here are a few pictures of the wiring. Once i started taking it out, i started to remember ALLLL the fun i had
with these. sorry i didn't pull it out all the way because i remember trying to get them in was a pain, and the turn signal
bulb wire i cut to short so its a tight fit pulling it out and unattaching the wires could cause the L.E.D's to not work (if i pull the
wires too hard and they come loose). As you can see, sorry, but it is a mess in there. there are alot of loose wires everywhere
thats just how it came. lol, and i love my wiring job, like i said i eventually got frustrated and just stuck it all in there.



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Like i said, the pictures arn't that great, sorry, im not a photographer... my girlfriend is but she's at work. However there will be a video coming shortly that is much MUCH better, IMO.

[Deggy Fresh]

after reading this, im def not investing my money into this projectors..

[Fyrious]

well that was fast.

heres the video, well, the quality has been reduced, but its still better then the pictures

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=239388237005800918


thats the best i can do as far as showing you how i did the wiring, without taking the whole headlamp out, in which case wires
would have to be disconnected anyway and then it wouldn't really show how it was wired to begin with.

[ancona46]

when u put on your lights do both bulbs light up high and low?

[Fyrious]

nope, when i turn on my lights, everything lights up except for the highbeam bulb which is the one on the inside i believe, then when i hit the highbeams the other one turns on and the lowbeam bulb turns off. but like i said, that part im pretty sure was plug and play in the video i make sure to show the plug that the main high and low beam bulbs plug into, it looks just like the stock one. it was the L.E.D.s that i had to wire up to work.

you wouldn't happen to have a picture would you, like of the back of your headlights or the wiring?

[ancona46]

no......some isnt right i shouldnt have both bulbs on.....what i need is a picture of the plug that goes into the headlight socket showing what colors go where to see if mine match up do u have one like that?

[ancona46]

have u had any problems with the halos? i here some people saying one side stays on when shut off?

[Fyrious]

i'll try to get a picture, i took a video tonight of the headlights, showing how they work, the high and low beams. i'll post it tomorrow, its kinda late at the moment.

as far as the halos go, no i haven't had any problems. when I turn off the lights after they've been on for a while they do glow for a bit, but they don't stay on. i believe thats just the projection bulb though.

the only problems i've had was the initial installation, cutting and wiring up the L.E.Ds, and then having this film peel off the headlight lenses, although now that its peeled off they look the same as before it peeled off, so IMO thats no biggy.

[Fyrious]

night time video, as you can see mine arn't aligned properly at the end when im driving at night. but it shows the difference between high and low and the approximate distance covered.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2337139643637282500


anybody else notice that theres been like 2840 views of this thread! :P

[ancona46]

nice video...mine operate the same except that inside bulb is on with the lows and gets brighter with the highs......im stumped i doubl checked everything today and it looks right,i also wired u my halo's and led's they are weak

i should have my hid's in by tommorow if i can get to the store and buy a couple relay's

[Fyrious]

well if you don't mind both being on at the same time, it really isn't a problem i would think, they still look kickass.

the halo's arn't very bright, the L.E.D's however are, or at least when i look at mine they look very bright, people definitly notice them! i've gotten alot of "Whooah, what is that, thats cool" because really the projections on our car are different from other projections. most aftermarket projections just have the bulbs, no halos or L.E.D's. at least the ones around my area are like that. so having these 3 L.E.D's down the side, and glowing halo's usually stands out amongest the crowd and people usually do a double take.

[sk8rjess]

lol dang sounds like there are alot of problems with these. mine werent even this complicated and i made mine :\