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92GaEnthusiast
08-01-2007, 06:35 AM
Hey there! Looking to get my front bumper fixed. It started peeling and chipping, and I want to get it fixed before I sell it!

Here is a picture of the peeling.

I was wondering if I could just sand the areas that need repainted smooth, than spray on some of that touch up paint, followed by some clearcoat, or if the entire bumper needs to be repainted. (I am going to use the aerosol can for touching up spots). I wanted to know if I sanded the edges of the flaking smooth, if I could apply the paint than clear coat over it, and get the desired affect, or if the entire bumper had to in fact be resprayed (Paint shop wants 250 to respray it)

Here is the picture:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/master_yoer/Picture001.jpg

coupe
08-01-2007, 08:21 AM
Body shop

92GaEnthusiast
08-01-2007, 11:44 AM
not going to pay that much to repaint it, another 50 dollars more is all it cost to get the entire car painted at a local body shop last year. Looks like i've got some repainting to do.

coupe
08-01-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by 92GaEnthusiast
not going to pay that much to repaint it, another 50 dollars more is all it cost to get the entire car painted at a local body shop last year. Looks like i've got some repainting to do.


Considering the age of the car i would just pull the bumper off, sand it down to the plastic (urethain, whatever) and then prime it and put it back on. Rattle can jobs never last long (putting you back where you started) and always come out lookin like shit. It would be best to leave it in primer. Then sell as is, you wont get diddly for it anyways even if the bumper has been repainted.

$250 to repaint the bumper and last year they said $300 to repaint the whole car? I dont know how the rest of this country gets cheap paint and body shops working for free. To repaint a car the size of a 92 GA would cost roughly $2500 and that would be cheap as hell.

coupe
08-01-2007, 12:39 PM
I just realized from your post and your other thread that the car was already painted last year for $300. No wonder your paint is peeling off, thats what happens when you cheap out on body work.

92GaEnthusiast
08-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Actually, FYI, I didn't cheap out on the body work, it just so happened I was family with half the people that worked at the shop. It was a 2000 dollar paint package that I got for 485 as a 'promotion', and unfortunately my family no longer works there, so they won't honor the same thing.

The reason it chipped off is because after I had gotten it painted, I used the front bumper to push my crate for my motor up my icey driveway, and the rough edges on the crate starting digging into bumper.

And by the way, I don't know where you got your quote from, but repainting a car the SAME color, and basically just touching up on the paint, shouldn't cost ANYWHERE near 2500 dollars. If it does, you are being ripped off.

TA^Guy
08-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by 92GaEnthusiast
And by the way, I don't know where you got your quote from, but repainting a car the SAME color, and basically just touching up on the paint, shouldn't cost ANYWHERE near 2500 dollars. If it does, you are being ripped off.
It all depends on the products used and time put into the paint job. I pushed a dumpster with my Cavilier and had np paint damage. It's very possible the front urithane bumper wasn't preped properly and that is why it didn't hold up well whenit flexed. Even if it was scratched, chipped or whatever it shouldn't cause it to start peeling like that unless it wa a bad paint job to being with. There are many good paints on teh market along with alot of crappy ones. I personally like Duponts Chroma base paints however they aren't cheep. I think for my quart of white to my hood it was over $100 for paint and reducer.

And around here the only place you'll get to paint an entire for less than $2000 is Macco or Collision Experts. Two, cheepo body shop chains known for amateur work.

92GaEnthusiast
08-01-2007, 02:52 PM
I made bad terminology by saying it was peeling. Every part of the paint that is missing is where the crate slid up against it and scraped paint off the bumper. You gotta look at it like this.. a steel FLAT dumpster versus a rough plastic crate with jagged edges along it (It was being pushed right at the lip between the top and bottom of the crate).

The car was gone for a week and a half while they painted it, if that shows how long it was gone for.

And the place that did my paint is the place that the dealerships in town go to do it. The original quote for a paint touch up (not a complete repaint), was 2,100 after taxes, but since I was family with the workers, I basically only ended up paying for parts. It ended up being just over 500 after taxes.

TA^Guy
08-01-2007, 08:42 PM
Well either way, Rand mentioned that for a entire car to be repainted (cause that is what you made it seem in the first few posts) you would be looking at a minimum of $2500 for a decent job. I agreed. But you didn't, you said if anyone was paying $2500 to have a car repainted it was a rip off, yet the price before you discount for a "touch up" job was $2100 and thats not a rip off?

Eiter way if you are going to sell it either have a pro do it or dont do it at all.

Big Joe
08-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by 92GaEnthusiast

And by the way, I don't know where you got your quote from, but repainting a car the SAME color, and basically just touching up on the paint, shouldn't cost ANYWHERE near 2500 dollars. If it does, you are being ripped off.


A decent paint job will cost at least 2500, and thats still fairly cheap, even if your just repainting the same color. Good paint is very expensive. Then you have to add up all the hours of prep work and then the money they tack on so they can actually make a profit off there work.

Now as for using a rattle can. If you do all the prep work properly and really work hard you can get it to look decent but will never look perfect like a pro paint job would. I rattle caned over a rust repair about a month ago. I'm satisfied with the way it turned out cause it cost me next to nothing but you can definitely tell thats it is a rattle can job. I went this rout because I plan on repainted the whole car after I do some body mods I have planned so this works fine for me as a temp fix.

Heres some pics.

Heres the area I painted.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/BigJoe5313/Car/Rust%20Repair/DSC01298.jpg

Heres the finished result. Not perfect. You can see the line and everything. As a temp fix this is fine but I wouldn't want this to stay like that.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/BigJoe5313/Car/Rust%20Repair/DSC01758.jpg

Nighthawk243
08-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Do you have a friend who has a air compressor with a decent sized tank?

If so, you could probably pick up a cheapo paint gun, and grab some paint from an autobody shop and just slap some single stage on.

I know, the paint nuts will jump on me for saying that, but if you're just trying to get it somewhat decent, it'll do.

92GaEnthusiast
08-02-2007, 06:20 AM
it costs like 60 bucks a pint for paint though, and I don't even think i'd use anywhere near a pint to fix that little spot.

I work in a place where we sand painted wheels all day long (wood wheels with primer, paint, and clear coat on them), and we do a very good job at matching color and depth from bare wood to the top clear coat level. The question I was asking was if the rattle can would stick to the spray gun paint, or if the entire bumper needed be to re-painted using the rattle can.

Elderas
08-06-2007, 03:18 PM
sand it well and it will stick

60 / pint? no man. we buy pint for like 20 bucks and this is canada (the land of markups)

you can get half pints and quarter pints aswell. I sprayed my entire front bumper with l ike a quarter pint.

TA^Guy
08-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Elderas
sand it well and it will stick

60 / pint? no man. we buy pint for like 20 bucks and this is canada (the land of markups)

you can get half pints and quarter pints aswell. I sprayed my entire front bumper with l ike a quarter pint.
Ekkk did the paint they mixed it from have labels with english on them?
haha

Actually Duplicolor makes a ready to spray paint in pints now. Not sure of the price.