saltystix
08-11-2007, 11:18 AM
Ok... so heres the story, without the history it may not help as much.
I have 1996 Grand Am V6 3100, SE
My car ran fine, just a little above half on the temp guage. No "problems" that I could see. My friend comes and looks at my car (thats just the things he does) and he's like your lower intake gasket is leaking, as we could see a little liquid down there.
Well of course being a college student, im broke, so i save up pretty much all summer, after 2 insurance payments, cell phone, birthdays... anyhow, I get the money to get a "tune-up"
So we take it to his work, because he is allowed to use the garage on Saturdays. So Saturday rolls on and we start the project.
Things I noticed as we were working on it. The "rockers" as I will call them, on 2 of them he "drilled em home" because they were becoming cross threaded. We put all the stuff in and everything looked normal. Started up the car and it worked. It was running around its normal temp from before but just a TAD higher. (Garage called me to see if he changed the temp guage or something, NO he did not change it).
We go on a little test drive and the car starts to heat up. So we pull over and the coolent is gushing out of the over flow onto the street. We eventually take the car to his house and bled the lines for about 40 minutes... but it was no match, air kept getting in somewhere. We would put water/coolent in and couple minutes later it was boiling over out of the reseviour tank.
So I go on my way to drive home, about 20 minutes down the road I stop to get gas and I hear pumping noises, which sound like they are coming from one of the radiator hoses by the battery side. So I start out of the gas station up a big hill (talking about 2 miles long). From what people have told me before, turn on your heat so it takes some away from the engine, I did this (which was the first time doing so since the lower intake fix. About 1/4 up I see that the temp is going up fast, it was at the 2 lines below the red section, so it was still in its "normal" range but higher. So I start to pull over and the car shuts down and won't start for like 30 minutes. My guess is the car shuts off when it gets hot and won't let u start it until it cools down.
We take it back down the hill after it starts up (first try after 30 mins) down to the local walmart. We bought some water for the road since it was probably low from boiling over. So my buddy pours water in the resevour tank and I hear water pouring in the parking lot. At first I think he is missing the tank, but its coming from another area of the car. So we look and its coming from the water pump.
So I get it towed to my house and then to the garage instead of driving it any further. I get a call today, they water pump was definelty gone but it is still doing the same boiling over stuff. He told me he'd take a look at everything and call me back later. Since its a half day for them (Mr. Muffler) I doubt he found anything. He said there could be a blockage somewhere, temp guage, worst case head gasket. He did change the cap on the tank for the coolent.
Any ideas, suggestions... anything is greatly appreciated. Sorry its so long, but he pretty much asked me about my whole car history so I was guessing it is something they take into consideration. Through my story, there check engine light did not come on, or any other indicator.
I have 1996 Grand Am V6 3100, SE
My car ran fine, just a little above half on the temp guage. No "problems" that I could see. My friend comes and looks at my car (thats just the things he does) and he's like your lower intake gasket is leaking, as we could see a little liquid down there.
Well of course being a college student, im broke, so i save up pretty much all summer, after 2 insurance payments, cell phone, birthdays... anyhow, I get the money to get a "tune-up"
So we take it to his work, because he is allowed to use the garage on Saturdays. So Saturday rolls on and we start the project.
Things I noticed as we were working on it. The "rockers" as I will call them, on 2 of them he "drilled em home" because they were becoming cross threaded. We put all the stuff in and everything looked normal. Started up the car and it worked. It was running around its normal temp from before but just a TAD higher. (Garage called me to see if he changed the temp guage or something, NO he did not change it).
We go on a little test drive and the car starts to heat up. So we pull over and the coolent is gushing out of the over flow onto the street. We eventually take the car to his house and bled the lines for about 40 minutes... but it was no match, air kept getting in somewhere. We would put water/coolent in and couple minutes later it was boiling over out of the reseviour tank.
So I go on my way to drive home, about 20 minutes down the road I stop to get gas and I hear pumping noises, which sound like they are coming from one of the radiator hoses by the battery side. So I start out of the gas station up a big hill (talking about 2 miles long). From what people have told me before, turn on your heat so it takes some away from the engine, I did this (which was the first time doing so since the lower intake fix. About 1/4 up I see that the temp is going up fast, it was at the 2 lines below the red section, so it was still in its "normal" range but higher. So I start to pull over and the car shuts down and won't start for like 30 minutes. My guess is the car shuts off when it gets hot and won't let u start it until it cools down.
We take it back down the hill after it starts up (first try after 30 mins) down to the local walmart. We bought some water for the road since it was probably low from boiling over. So my buddy pours water in the resevour tank and I hear water pouring in the parking lot. At first I think he is missing the tank, but its coming from another area of the car. So we look and its coming from the water pump.
So I get it towed to my house and then to the garage instead of driving it any further. I get a call today, they water pump was definelty gone but it is still doing the same boiling over stuff. He told me he'd take a look at everything and call me back later. Since its a half day for them (Mr. Muffler) I doubt he found anything. He said there could be a blockage somewhere, temp guage, worst case head gasket. He did change the cap on the tank for the coolent.
Any ideas, suggestions... anything is greatly appreciated. Sorry its so long, but he pretty much asked me about my whole car history so I was guessing it is something they take into consideration. Through my story, there check engine light did not come on, or any other indicator.