Not GA related, but...

[Shad0wguy]

I have been looking for cars to replace my GA. I have my heart set on an F-body. Anyway I found one on ebay that had a reserve higher than my bid but I won otherwise. The seller gave me a second chance offer for the Car for $5250. I am going to try to pull him down to $5000 if I pay in cash.

My question is, is this car worth $5000.

It is a 2002 Firebird. Red w/ t-tops. Chrome wheels. 3.8L V6. The only downer is that is has 115000 miles.
According to edmunds.com this config is worth $7000 from a dealer, so I am getting a good deal according to that. My uncle ran a carfax and it is originally from PA, now located in NJ. No accidents or anything.

SO, should I go for it. I am afraid if I pass I may regret it later.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x246/Tabuisme89/Firebird/357.jpg

[coupe]

If its not a V8 its not worth a $1 to me, but thats just me.

You already own a V6, why get another one.

[Shad0wguy]

Cause they're expensive as hell, the V8 f-bodies.

And because I would like decent gas milage and lower insurance rates. I want the V6. But it must be the 3.8L.

[coupe]

But you already have a V6, that 3.8L wont be any faster either.

[Shad0wguy]

I don't have a V6, the GA was totaled. This will be it's replacement.

[coupe]

Oic

[99GrandAMSE]

... I wouldn't buy ANYTHING without seeing it first ... V6 or V8, F-bodys have a really high opportunity to have been abused somewhere in its life

[carlover626]

I wouldn't buy a car on E-bay personally.

[Shad0wguy]

I wouldn't buy a car on E-bay personally.

I don't really have any other options. I can't find F-bodies for sale locally.

[Lowizle]

whats wrong with the feiro, if i had a feiro it would be the only thing i would drive

[Shad0wguy]

whats wrong with the feiro, if i had a feiro it would be the only thing i would drive

The Fiero doesn't drive. Not yet anyway. Having motor troubles. And I would still need something that holds more than 2 people.

[Lowizle]

ah,i see...i still agree with carlover, i wouldnt buy a car on ebay....

[Shad0wguy]

The Fiero came from ebay.

[03 SC/T]

I personally wouldn't buy a firebird unless it had a V8. I just don't understand what the point in buying a muscle car is if it doesn't have any muscle. A firebird/Mustang/Camero are pointless without a V8. Just my $0.02

[coupe]

I personally wouldn't buy a firebird unless it had a V8. I just don't understand what the point in buying a muscle car is if it doesn't have any muscle. A firebird/Mustang/Camero are pointless without a V8. Just my $0.02

The people who decided to put V6's in those cars need their faces kicked in or at least have their heads examined.

[carlover626]

There are a lot of other sources for cars on the internet, and they may be selling in your area. cars.com, vehix.com, autotrader.com

I don't see paying for something (or bidding) before you drive it, research the model, and inspect it physically...might as well go to Joe Blow's car shop and hand over the $$, preying that you made a "good" choice. It might be a good deal...you won't know till you drop $5K and drive it home.

I also agree that a V-6 Camero/Firebird/Mustang is just a little odd, probably an Automatic? Mainly chosen for the MPG's IMO - not performance. Keep looking, I made the mistake of buying the first car I saw, regreting it later.

[XoticGA]

F bodies don't really strike me as good winter cars, especially NY winters...

[Shad0wguy]

F bodies don't really strike me as good winter cars, especially NY winters...

Yeah, my first car was an 86 El Camino. Wanna talk no traction?

The dealer selling this car is fairly local and I will go see it and test drive it before I pay for it. What I really want to know is if you think this particular car is worth the $5k?

[99GrandAMSE]

I personally wouldn't buy a firebird unless it had a V8. I just don't understand what the point in buying a muscle car is if it doesn't have any muscle. A firebird/Mustang/Camero are pointless without a V8. Just my $0.02

No offence but that is just a little narrow minded ... I supposed, using that terminology, it is pointless to offer a Grand Am without the V6 ... ahhh hell, no sense offering the SE either ... might as well just make them all GT versions :) :lol: ... there is a market for everything ... in this case, people like the sporty appearance of the F-body but can't afford the gas (not to mention the insurance) for the more powerful version.

[carlover626]

Considering I paid $5,000 more for my 02 Montero Sport when it had 85,000+ miles I would say yes. But I personally don't know ANYTHING about the Firebird.

[Nighthawk243]

The people who decided to put V6's in those cars need their faces kicked in or at least have their heads examined.

Better than when they tried putting the Iron Duke in them... :lol:


Anyways, the 3800 V6 is a decent engine, it'll keep you from getting pulled over alot. Just make sure to turn off the trac control if you get it.

(Btw, any plans to turbo charge it if you get it?)

[Nighthawk243]

F bodies don't really strike me as good winter cars, especially NY winters...

I do agree that they are bad on traction. Remember when I put one in the ditch due to low traction in light rain? :roll2:

[2001GAGT]

I would have to say are car is worth what you are willing to pay for it. It does not seem like that bad of a deal but I would want to see it and drive it in person before handing over the cash. Also do some research F-bodies are not that great of a car in to winter. Also you said you wanted room for more then two. I don't know about the 4th gens, but my 3rd gen might as well not have a second row. :lol: I am not a big guy and I can't get comfy in the 2nd row. Good luck let us know what you decide.

[2001GAGT]

Better than when they tried putting the Iron Duke in them... :lol:


Anyways, the 3800 V6 is a decent engine, it'll keep you from getting pulled over alot. Just make sure to turn off the trac control if you get it.

(Btw, any plans to turbo charge it if you get it?)

Don't be laughing at the Iron Duke, F-bodies. :D There are guys out there looking for them. SOme waht to keep them the way they are, and other want parts off them. GM put some nice parts on some of the Iron Dukes to lighten them up, that didn't come on the others.

[Shad0wguy]

I am looking at an 01 Camaro right now. I am gonna make the trip to Jersey to see it. I don't think I am gonna get the Firebird, I can get them for less money with less miles.

Nighthawk, I doubt I would turbo charge it. At least not initially.

[03 SC/T]

No offence but that is just a little narrow minded ... I supposed, using that terminology, it is pointless to offer a Grand Am without the V6 ... ahhh hell, no sense offering the SE either ... might as well just make them all GT versions :) :lol: ... there is a market for everything ... in this case, people like the sporty appearance of the F-body but can't afford the gas (not to mention the insurance) for the more powerful version.

It's not narrow minded it's just my opinion. And the whole grand am analogy is pointless. My statement had nothing to do with the ga. The ga is a car that is in the midsize bracket so a 4cyl. or 6cyl. works. Its not a muscle car. ITS MY OPINION that a muscle car should have muscle and no less than a V8 under the hood.

[Shad0wguy]

The V6's in the later F-bodies put out 200HP. That is more than the 80's f-bodies V8's could muster.

[Nighthawk243]

The V6's in the later F-bodies put out 200HP. That is more than the 80's f-bodies V8's could muster.

Yeah, one of my other friends (Not the same one that I borrowed the ditch diver camaro from...) has both a 1985 Z28 and a 2000 Base.

He usually uses the 2000 for racing since it has more power.

[99GrandAMSE]

It's not narrow minded it's just my opinion. And the whole grand am analogy is pointless. My statement had nothing to do with the ga. The ga is a car that is in the midsize bracket so a 4cyl. or 6cyl. works. Its not a muscle car. ITS MY OPINION that a muscle car should have muscle and no less than a V8 under the hood.

Sorry, but the analogy of the Grand Am is direct on point since it doesn't matter what type of automobile it is, the thought direction is what matters ... just because it is a F-body doesn't mean it is has to be considered a "muscle car" (hell man, anything built after the 1960's isn't even a "muscle car" if you ask me but like you said, this part of our conversation is just an opinion) .... the point I am trying to make is not all F-body's were designed or intended to be powerful, or to be viewed as a "muscle car" (to continue using your wording) ... even when the F-body's first came out, they had an option for a 6 cylinder and in fact, a base model 6 cylinder is one of the most prized processions in the F-body world in terms of rarity and value ... you do know that the Corvette, originally came with a 6 cylinder, right :) :lol: ... dude, no offence as I do know where you are coming from but just because your preference is to only have an F-body with a V8 doesn't make the rest of them "pointless".

[Deggy Fresh]

fiero = pontiacs mid-engine mistake...lol

[sunrunner_pei]

fiero = pontiacs mid-engine mistake...lol

Riiiiigt. :roll:

[04REDGT1]

Shawd0w Guy,

Have you tried going to Yahoo Auto's? Go to the left side for used cars, type
in your zip code and how many mile radius and then type in the kind of car your looking for. You'd be suprise what pops up. Sure beats cruising the car lots.

[Shad0wguy]

Shawd0w Guy,

Have you tried going to Yahoo Auto's? Go to the left side for used cars, type
in your zip code and how many mile radius and then type in the kind of car your looking for. You'd be suprise what pops up. Sure beats cruising the car lots.

I search ebay, autotrader, cars.com, and craigslist.