2008.5 turbo cobalt

[chewy]

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=152

check out the different topics in the forum. basically some guy that has insider stuff posted specs on the new cobalt and everything. The guys over there got onto some website for sae horsepower ratings and proved that 2008.5 cobalt is havin a turbo charged engine to produce 260 horsepower and 260 torque... i think it is the same engine in the solstice and sky. soooo what do u guys think?

[VanishingImage]

gotta register before you can view..... May want to copy and past what is there

[chewy]

dont need to register. well atleast i dont have to for sum reason but here is the specs on the engine

url (http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1596841&postcount=63)

[Twista89]

If this is true I might consider buying a cobalt again...

[urweak]

sweet my source was correct

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showpost.php?p=669632&postcount=5

[chewy]

nice good inside info man. 260 hp and 260 torque in a front wheel drive .... i am not sure how much i like that. They would need to do what mazda did with the mazdaspeed 3 and limit boost in first and second gear and turns, give sticky tires, and good weight distribution to make it not have ridiculous torque steer and all of that. If they released the turbo version with rear wheel drive or all wheel drive i will be all over that too. but the chances of gm doing that is slim to none

[VanishingImage]

They will do something with Traction Control so that you won't get wheel hop. That power will cause wheel hop. The SRT-4's sometimes have that problem with their stock power depending on what track they were at.

I would love to see a 260hp/260ftlb Cobalt. As long as the styling stays close to the same as the SS

[Whit3Kryptonite]

Can someone copy paste the information>?

[cavingman]

cobalts and my ion have wheel hop like crazy as it is right now. some other members can vouch for that after wtaching me blow the trans up at atco 2 or 3 years ago because of this.
hopefully the minor bit of turbo lag solves this if there is any. it will be the only saving grace with a stock suspension.

[jayhawk]

What is the point of having all that power it is wasted? The Vauxhall Astra VXR (same chassis) has those same specs, and it is nothing but understeer, understeer, understeer.

[thegeswho3]

^^^, yea, you will actually have to know how to drive in this car. Pshhhh. Why cant I hammer the gas from a dead stop or through a tight turn.

Maybe some of us will take it easy through turns and use all 260hp pulling out of the turn in a straight line at 25mph. Thats where the power comes in handy in a FWD car.

[Nighthawk243]

From what I have heard, a torque dampener can reduce the wheel hop.

[Sweet98GA]

cobalts and my ion have wheel hop like crazy as it is right now. some other members can vouch for that after wtaching me blow the trans up at atco 2 or 3 years ago because of this.
hopefully the minor bit of turbo lag solves this if there is any. it will be the only saving grace with a stock suspension.

i was hoping you'd post here cause i was gonna mention how you have the "setup" car for the twin charged project :)

[New_RevenG]

Sweet. My brother is looking around for a car as a gift to himself for going to iraq and surviving. Hes got a mustang in mind but i told him to check out the ss cobalt or the solstice.

[Silverstone-Z]

Just another SRT-4... :(

[chewy]

another update from a member on cobaltss.net.

Posted by member of CamaroZ28.com . Heres how the LNF CObalts 8.22 lap time stacks up . Its in some very good company , damn .

8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05),
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.851 km/h – 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Jaguar XKR, 416 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h – BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.1 - 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
8:28.93 145.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:30 --- 145.412 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:31.--- 145.130 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg,
8:31.42 145.008 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS
8:33.80 144.336 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)

look at all the cars that the turbo cobalt can beat

[Nighthawk243]

The Cobalt SS/TC is a very formidable car, Despite having low power numbers compared to a number of cars, it makes up for it by HP/lb ratios. Delta platform vehicles are quite compact, and also light, helping out the performance.

The biggest problem is that the Delta platform suffers from severe wheel hop in the first to second shift.

[imstock]

My buddy has a Cobalt SS/SC and he absolutely loves it (as do I), and so long as you know how o drive, theres no problem. Just don't go barreling into the turn without any for-thought on your line/speed. He has mentioned them having shitty front axils, but theres already a package on the market to go stage2 on them. Nice little cars overall. Very quick.

He is in Ecuador right down working on AWACs, but his car is being worked on at a shop which is testing a port and polish and a higher PSI SC...

[infernus]

Cobalt

G5 plz.

[Nighthawk243]

G5 plz.

Would be nice... but GM probably doesn't have plans for that.

Techinically you could make your own GXP style G5. The only real difference between the G5 and cobalt is the Front Bumper, and the rear facade. Just swap the front bumper, rear bumper, and taillights, and you should be good. The only issue is the fact that you may have problems on the coupe since the area where the tail lights are on the G5 is mainly sheet metal on the cobalt.

[TA^Guy]

They will do something with Traction Control so that you won't get wheel hop. That power will cause wheel hop. The SRT-4's sometimes have that problem with their stock power depending on what track they were at.

I would love to see a 260hp/260ftlb Cobalt. As long as the styling stays close to the same as the SS
Traction Control isn't the answer for wheel hop, a properly tuned suspension would be.
^^^, yea, you will actually have to know how to drive in this car. Pshhhh. Why cant I hammer the gas from a dead stop or through a tight turn.

Maybe some of us will take it easy through turns and use all 260hp pulling out of the turn in a straight line at 25mph. Thats where the power comes in handy in a FWD car.
What?!? What for the straight? All the fun is in the corners, a vehicle that can't corner isn't worth a dime IMO. I leave the straight line drag racing to the boring old guys and untalented children.
Just another SRT-4... :(
SRT4 = Junk, and not to mention now longer in production.
Atleast using the Ecotec GM has a great base engine to start with.

[ManktheTank19]

The SRT4 is still in production but with the calibur.........

I actually might want the the turbo one when it comes out...

[Silverstone-Z]

SRT4 = Junk, and not to mention now longer in production.
Atleast using the Ecotec GM has a great base engine to start with.
Any idea on the price?

What I mean is if it's cheaper and more easily affordable, the ricer fanboys that want to race from every red light will get one of these too, just like the SRT-4's.
IMO, SRT-4 is a Dodge Neon with a turbo...
...Turbo Cobalt is a Chevy Cavalier with a turbo...

[urweak]

IMO, SRT-4 is a Dodge Neon with a turbo...
...Turbo Cobalt is a Chevy Cavalier with a turbo...

You say that as if theres something wrong with that. :???:

[Nighthawk243]

Well... the cobalt is light, and with a turbo pushing the LNF to 260HP/TQ, it should be about as fast as the Solstice.

[Silverstone-Z]

You say that as if theres something wrong with that. :???:

I'm a firm believer of just creating a new line if you want to make a performance vehicle, not to stuff every thing possible on an economy car.

[TA^Guy]

IMO, SRT-4 is a Dodge Neon with a turbo...
...Turbo Cobalt is a Chevy Cavalier with a turbo...
...actually it's a Cobalt. There is no Cavilier and the Cobalt isn't a J-Body.
If you want to use that compairsion minus well say the Neon is a Turbo K-Car. :D
I'm a firm believer of just creating a new line if you want to make a performance vehicle, not to stuff every thing possible on an economy car.
Incase you haven't noticed, that is what is selling to people under 25 these days.

Taking a economical car that already has it's R&D done, government crash testing approved, emissions, and everything else approved, and is already in production, then why not spend a few more dollars on a different powertrain?

Building a new car to fill a void that has a obviously solution starting it dead in the face would be a huge waste of millions and millions of dollars.

Horrible from a bussiness stand point. Not only will it cost a ton to make, the price to cover all that R&D would reflect into the price of the vehicle and/or be averaged into costs of other vehicles in that manufactures line up in the end a result of a higher sticker price. Not to mention parts that aren't as universal or as readily avalible or cost efficent.

Not just as simple as "Hey, build different car."

[Silverstone-Z]

I understand that. I know the costs of introducing a new vehicle into a manufacturer's line. I'm just giving my .02 really.

Didn't know about the Cavalier/Cobalt thing. I always thought they just changed the body and renamed it :(

I believe the step GM took with the Solstice and the SKY Turbo was awesome. They all economic roadster sporty cars. The performance now is a big PLUS for them.

Rather than making a Cobalt SS Turbo, why didn't they do it with the G5?

[TA^Guy]

I have no ideal why they would leave the G5 out of the loop.

Why did GM decide to put a 3.8 Turbo in the '89 Trans Am Anniversary Edition but the Z28 never received a special engine for it's anniversary?

Things we may never know... :lol: hahahaha

[b2089]

The world wants cheap crappy cars with long lists of letters next to the name to signify the thought of performance but not the actual act. It's a sad world when great cars like the Bonneville and the GTO sit on the sales floor while things like the ZX2 can't be kept in stock.

Everyone has lost their taste, the world is doomed. Pretty soon we'll all be riding on turbo charged mopeds.

[thegeswho3]

What?!? What for the straight? All the fun is in the corners, a vehicle that can't corner isn't worth a dime IMO. I leave the straight line drag racing to the boring old guys and untalented children.



OK, agreed, but my point was people ask why put 260hp in a small fwd car if you cant use it. You can use it, just not all the time. They don't get that you cant hammer the gas in the turns using all 260hp, maybe just two thirds. Same thing from a stop. If you slam the gas to use all of the power wheel hop and torque steer. But when you have used some of the power to get the car rolling, or through the turn then all 260hp is useful and more fun than 200.

[TA^Guy]

OK, agreed, but my point was people ask why put 260hp in a small fwd car if you cant use it. You can use it, just not all the time. They don't get that you cant hammer the gas in the turns using all 260hp, maybe just two thirds. Same thing from a stop. If you slam the gas to use all of the power wheel hop and torque steer. But when you have used some of the power to get the car rolling, or through the turn then all 260hp is useful and more fun than 200.
Yeah well those kids are the dipshits that end up totaling a car within a year anyhow.