ZR1 Fully Revealed

[Deggy Fresh]

http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/2009-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-revealed-officially-334923.php

loving this car, not a whole lot im not feeling. mostly just not liking the hood, that clear peice to see the motor has to go...but over all if i had the 105+k price tag this will most likely go for, this would be in my garage.

[RazorDX]

I like it. I want to see what they can really get out of that engine.

[Deggy Fresh]

the article says it is able to make 100HP per cyl...so it sould be very nice along with the SC, and im sure this thing will be able to make well over 1000HP with bolt ons and pulley swap.

[The Artist]

the article says it is able to make 100HP per cyl...so it sould be very nice along with the SC, and im sure this thing will be able to make well over 1000HP with bolt ons and pulley swap.

correction... it's 100hp per liter, not cylinder... there's multiple references to 6.2l = 620hp

There's another article that's been out about how they are making at least a 750hp vette to compete against the new 650 viper that was announced...

Either way, this car is extremely sick

[Deggy Fresh]

correction... it's 100hp per liter, not cylinder... there's multiple references to 6.2l = 620hp

oops, thanks. thats what i ment....sorry

[Deggy Fresh]

i would love to own this car one day.

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

cool

[Nighthawk243]

That thing is a monster...

The "Corvette Killers" are now going to get killed.

[Deggy Fresh]

That thing is a monster...

The "Corvette Killers" are now going to get killed.

Corvette killers? what the Viper? thats the only thing i can think that is even in the same league as the vette these days....i dont even consider Saleen Mustangs in the same league as vettes....at least in the past couple years.

[Nighthawk243]

I always see magazines touting some <Insert Import car here> as a vette killer.

Lately I've been seeing people tout the Nissan GTR as a Vette killer... :rolleyes:

[Deggy Fresh]

I always see magazines touting some <Insert Import car here> as a vette killer.

Lately I've been seeing people tout the Nissan GTR as a Vette killer... :rolleyes:

What mag said the new Nissan GTR is going to be a vette killer.....to me it looks like a glorified Infinity G35.....oh wait, they are the same car...Skyline/G35....the closest thing i can see in comparison to the corvette is the new viper.

[MagusXIII]

I personally would have preferred the car to remain NA from the factory. I know there were some turbo Corvettes from Callaway and the like. But unless I am totally wrong, this is the first forced induction Corvette from the factory. Maybe up the displacement into the 454cid (7.5L) territory just like the 454 Corvettes of yesteryear.

Also, this is nit-picking. But I would have preferred the Stingray moniker to be resurrected. But aside from those minor quibbles, it is one bad ass Vette that most of us would LOVE to own!! :thumbup2:

[bballr4567]

Actually they wanted to go with the SC because the fact that it has INSTANT torque off the line. Its super efficent and will still get pretty damn decent MPG. I HATE the fact that its got a carbon fiber roof. It saves 2.2 lbs so we know why they went with that. Stupid.

For what its worth though the car is supposedly underrated. Been reading a few posts on line from GM techs and its around the area of 720 HP crank soooo WHOOOOHOOO!!!

Deggy you serious about the GTR? Its a damn serious sports car and will kick ass. Calling it a glorified G35 is pretty ignorant.

[TA^Guy]

Ever since the ZO6 came out the other competition like the Viper have been running scared. Sure the Viper has 2 more cylinders, but the ZO6 always gets better lap times stock for stock.

Viper is about bragging who as the biggest dick, the ZO6 is about showing the guy with the bigger dick that his does the job better.

Not only will the ZR1 with a Supercharged LS9, mushroom tap those suckers on the forehead, it will also edge it's status away from Sportscar, and closer to Supercar.

[car audio dave]

john, this is one of those times that i agree 100%.

the GTR is more than a glorified G35, the motor isnt even a VQ series on it. the chassis is also supposedly all new, and only for this car.

on another note, i dont think that the GTR or the new supra will be able to hang with the ZR1. maybe the Z06 (i hear thats gonna stay on the market).

I think the new camaro will be more of sports car, and the corvette will be more of a supercar.

[TA^Guy]

I personally would have preferred the car to remain NA from the factory. I know there were some turbo Corvettes from Callaway and the like. But unless I am totally wrong, this is the first forced induction Corvette from the factory. Maybe up the displacement into the 454cid (7.5L) territory just like the 454 Corvettes of yesteryear.

Also, this is nit-picking. But I would have preferred the Stingray moniker to be resurrected. But aside from those minor quibbles, it is one bad ass Vette that most of us would LOVE to own!! :thumbup2:
Don, if they ever were to bring back the "Stingray" nameplate, you would most likely see it more as a sport luxury package, or touring package. Well, if GM were smart that is how they would sell it.

IMO, the Vettes that stirred images of power to me were L78, L89, LS7, ect. All identified numerically by the engine code.

I think to name it a ZR1 is proper. The original ZR1 was released in 1989 to attack exotic Sportscars. With a Exotic DOHC all aluminum V8 designed by Lotus and built by Mercury Marine it pumped out 405hp, a number pretty nice when you think that was nearly 20 years ago. The ZR1 was also wider than typical Corvettes, and Goodyear designed the Gatorback tires specifically for the ZR1 to work in conjunction with it's adjustable suspension.

Sorry Don, I got carried away. lol I have a soft spot for the Corvette ZR1 and GS. I remember when they first came out and all I could think was "DAMN!". lol

[Nighthawk243]

To me, I thought badging the new one the ZR1 was also fitting, it was built with the same intent: Make the Vette a serious threat.

[matts]

it's a bad mofo for sure


the current Z06 is able to taint slap most of the stuff you find on the street, and alot of the stuff you'll run across at the track.

[Deggy Fresh]

well the Skyline/G35 are built on the same platform, or at least they used to be, and im sure they still are. regardless if is a Q-series motor in it or not. They are almost identical cars, one badged Nissan other badged Infinity. I'm not trying to be ignorant or anything of that sort, just saying that when I think of the possible "Vette killers" i think of Vipers, and that is the only thing I can think that even comes close in comparison to the Corvette.

[bballr4567]

The new GTR is completely new from the ground up. Nothing has been transferred or anything. Its a serious contender to the Vette. Itll out handle it for sure just because its AWD but it will lose a top speed run because its AWD. Its a double edged sword. Just because you dont see it as a challenge doesnt mean it isnt.

[Deggy Fresh]

The new GTR is completely new from the ground up. Nothing has been transferred or anything. Its a serious contender to the Vette. Itll out handle it for sure just because its AWD but it will lose a top speed run because its AWD. Its a double edged sword. Just because you dont see it as a challenge doesnt mean it isnt.

it being AWD takes it out of the same class as the Corvette and Viper, those are RWD. IMO either way the Corvette will out perform the Skyline in more aspects then the Skyline will the Corvette.

[bballr4567]

I know they are freaking RWD. It doesnt mean that they wont be compared and ran against each other. If you put the GTR and ZR1 on the same track they will more then likely battle it out for the top spot. The Viper wont mainly because its a pig compared to the other two.

Also if you really want to put it into comparision then you need to put the GTR against the Z06. If you have them battle then I see the GTR taking it pretty easily.

[Deggy Fresh]

I know they are freaking RWD. It doesnt mean that they wont be compared and ran against each other. If you put the GTR and ZR1 on the same track they will more then likely battle it out for the top spot. The Viper wont mainly because its a pig compared to the other two.

Also if you really want to put it into comparision then you need to put the GTR against the Z06. If you have them battle then I see the GTR taking it pretty easily.

you want the Z06 to go against the new GT-R?! there is no comparison there...even I will admit the GT-R will run laps around the Z06. GT-R>Z06

ZR1=GT-R

after looking at some specs of the GT-R, looks like it will be pretty close in every aspect, GT-R looks like it layed down a 3.3 0-60, and the ZR1 is estimated around that time too. On the track these cars will be equals I think, in 1/4 i think it will be ZR1 all the way.

whats the price tag on GT-R's anyways?

and why are you getting so upset...just trying to have a friendly discussion/comparison.

[bballr4567]

Well you basically told me that a Corvette and a Viper are RWD. Come on. lol Didnt mean to come off as upset. Sorry bout that.

It honestly depends on the driver. With a Z06 clocking 10.96 @128 in 1/4 on STOCK run flats and even faster with 10.83 @131 on drag radials you can only imagine what the ZR1 will do with a good driver.

The GTR is said to come in around 70k but with only 2k or so being sent to the states expect to pay around 90-100k after the dealer mark up. They will get sold and sold very fast at that price which is really crazy.

[Deggy Fresh]

I thought you were mad at me or something.....haha j/k

I just never was big on anything Nissan and I love the Corvette, guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

[bballr4567]

Nah not mad, just tired. lol

Im not too big on Nissan either but they have a sure hit on their hands. Plus making it limited production kind of makes it a huge plus for them too.

Personally I cant wait until I see a ZR1 driving down the road. Thatll make me very happy. lol

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

in my words both cars are cool. but who really cars what you have. just as long as you have fun and it gets you to a point and from a point.

[Deggy Fresh]

if i had either of those cars it damn sure wouldn't be a point A to point B car....

the aftermarket will have a field day with both of these cars....and the ZR1 will make well over 1000HP with bolt ons when they become available. Looks like with stock pulleys it will be running around 6-8lbs of boost, smaller pulley up to 10-12lbs, major bolt ons and you are in the 1000HP bracket.

[bballr4567]

Well consindering that the LS3 is already out on the market you can get headers and pretty much anything you want for it right now. From what I could read the SC is the same on the outside of the unit but the inner went from a 3 lobe compressor to 4 lobes to make it more efficent. Anybody that knows anything about LSx motors is that they LOVE to breathe so just adding headers will probably give you a 70-100 HP gain easily. Then get a dyno tune?? Too easy.

The only part that is going to be hard is the intercooler. I have no clue about that. lol

[Deggy Fresh]

i don't know much about LSx motors, but i do know they love to breathe and given that, you will see major HP gains.

[Deggy Fresh]

this thing is so sexy

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z6/deggyfresh/CorvetteZR1a.jpg

[bballr4567]

Gah I cant see the pic. I have seen all the ones that were released though. I personally like the one where the ZR1 is parked on the bricks and my fav part pic is the one of the lobes of the SC. That is freaking hot.

[Wallflower]

Anybody that knows anything about LSx motors is that they LOVE to breathe so just adding headers will probably give you a 70-100 HP gain easily. Then get a dyno tune?? Too easy.

Whoa there turbo ... you aren't going to get anywhere near that much simply from headers from an LSx. Putting long-tubes and an exhaust on a LS7 with no follow-up tune is only good for 30-35 more ponies.

A mid-build Katech LS7 is only adding 130hp. That thing is fully worked with new pistons/rods, cam, valvetrain, ported heads, and headers/exhaust. All that for $23K on top of your car.

[bballr4567]

Yea but have you seen what happens when you go from a manifold to headers on a supercharged car?? Not really because nobody ever puts a SC on a car with stock manifolds but you can only imagine. Its all a bunch of guesses right now but who knows?

I should of said that you will probably get 70-100 HP on a LS9 with a tune. Most LS1s and 2s will see in the area of 45-70 with a lid, headers and tune.

If you put a new FI cam, heads, P&P intake and TB, and full exhaust I can see a LS9 putting out some outrageous numbers. Of course we really dont know what they put out because they havent been put on a dyno yet but GM has underrated this car.

[Deggy Fresh]

Supercharged LS9 > N/A LS1....duuhhhhhh lol

[Nighthawk243]

I can see the honda guys on their forums now:

"Once my civic's VTec kicks in, it'll be over for the ZR-1..."

[Deggy Fresh]

V-Tec is like turbo lag minus the boost affect...

[Wallflower]

They really aren't manifolds in the traditional sense. They are hydro-formed steel shortie headers, dumping right into the cats through huge oval openings. Can't get much less unrestricted than that.

http://images.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0504phr_ls7_18_z.jpg

http://www.gm.com/explore/technology/gmpowertrain/pbc/ls7_corvette/photo_gallery/images/06_7-0l_ls7_c-exh1.jpg

[bballr4567]

You get LTs on that and you WILL see gains. You how they go from oval to a rectangle shape and get way smaller from the inlet to outlet? Ive never seen those pics before but seeing them makes it seem like you will see pretty decent gains for sure.

[TA^Guy]

I don't know details about the GTR in great detail but from my understanding a GTR will run down a Corvette and may hang with a ZO6 but will have no chance in battling head to head with a ZR1.
after looking at some specs of the GT-R, looks like it will be pretty close in every aspect, GT-R looks like it layed down a 3.3 0-60, and the ZR1 is estimated around that time too. On the track these cars will be equals I think, in 1/4 i think it will be ZR1 all the way.Yank the front diff out of th eGTR and we'll see who is faster 0-60. I'm not being arrogant, but my point is that in a road race a 0-60mph has no comparison value. 0-60 is for the dorks are Rub&Tap and MotorTrud. Sure AWD s great from a dead stop to launch, but once moving it's like a special olympics athlete jumping hurdles wearing a full diaper. Everyone raves about AWD in the corners also, well unless those corners are on a dirt road or covered in snow or gravel it's not all that much of an advantage. A properly balanced suspension and chassis in a RWD platform is no disadvantage.
Anybody that knows anything about LSx motors is that they LOVE to breathe so just adding headers will probably give you a 70-100 HP gain easily. Then get a dyno tune?? Too easy.
Not true, maybe if you swapped in a hot cam and a LS7 intake also.

[matts]

you want the Z06 to go against the new GT-R?! there is no comparison there...even I will admit the GT-R will run laps around the Z06. GT-R>Z06

ZR1=GT-R

after looking at some specs of the GT-R, looks like it will be pretty close in every aspect, GT-R looks like it layed down a 3.3 0-60, and the ZR1 is estimated around that time too. On the track these cars will be equals I think, in 1/4 i think it will be ZR1 all the way.

whats the price tag on GT-R's anyways?

and why are you getting so upset...just trying to have a friendly discussion/comparison.

i dont know where you saw your info, but the specs i read had the GTR 0-60 @ 4.5 and 1/4 @ 11.7@115. that's base vette territory right there. which will be it's competition in factory form

the current Z06 would butt rape that car: 0-60 in low 3s and 1/4 in very high 10s@120s. i figure the ZR1 will be mid/low 10s (with great driver) and low 3s 0-60. so not a HUGE leap from the current Z06 specs.......in stock form.

and of course that's all paper racing in a perfect world. on the street stoplight to stoplight the GTR would probably take most of the wins simply because of the AWD. it's hard to beat AWD on the street. even in my fat SUV with AWD i can surprise alot of sports cars....launch can make or break you when you're not going very far. and i seriously doubt very many Z06 owners run around on slicks or drag radials.\

i think a Z51 C6 would run paces with the GTR on the road course, with a slight nod toward GTR with it's AWD.

[Deggy Fresh]

here is where i get my information

Here is a great article by Edmunds on the GTR. They just tested a Japanese production vehicle. 0-60 in 3.3, 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 120.9. All of this at 3,836 pounds. The new Z06 did 0-60 in 3.6, 1/4 mile in 12.0 @121.0. The MSRP for the GTR will be $69,800, very similar to the Z06.

Personally it is a matter of personal preference, but put it this way, I own an 02 Z06 and will most likely be selling it and my G35 for the GTR. You can't go wrong with either the Z06 or the GTR, but I feel that the GTR has a little more bang for the buck and more daily drivability.

[Trigga-T]

that vette is badass!!!! i love that thing and love the clear hood piece. i like the little skull logo on the airbox too. the skyline that was in the motortrend ran a 11.7 i think and the z06 is faster then that

[bballr4567]

The MSRP for the GTR will be $69,800, very similar to the Z06.
If you can find a GTR for MSRP you are a VERY lucky man. The fact that almost all of the 2k cars that are being shipped over here are already sold and many of them for almost 100k just goes to show what people will do to have a car of this caliber.

IIRC the numbers for the Z06 were done with the traction control on. We all know how bad the GM traction control is and how much power it robs. :(:(

Still like I said I really do like the GTR. Competition is good for consumers!!!

[matts]

here is where i get my information

Here is a great article by Edmunds on the GTR. They just tested a Japanese production vehicle. 0-60 in 3.3, 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 120.9. All of this at 3,836 pounds. The new Z06 did 0-60 in 3.6, 1/4 mile in 12.0 @121.0. The MSRP for the GTR will be $69,800, very similar to the Z06.

Personally it is a matter of personal preference, but put it this way, I own an 02 Z06 and will most likely be selling it and my G35 for the GTR. You can't go wrong with either the Z06 or the GTR, but I feel that the GTR has a little more bang for the buck and more daily drivability.


i was wrong with my 0-60 numbers and i apologize!

seen a couple more articles that were claiming mid 3s, so i'm sorry. you were right and i was wrong.

02 Z06 vs. GTR is a win for the GTR. but the C6 Z06 is a totally different beast. i'm still gonna say straight line performance will go toward the Z and track runs will be VERY similar.

but like someone else said, i wouldn't count on paying MSRP for one....IF you can even find one. just like when the C6 Z came out they were going WELL over MSRP. and with them being such a limited prodcution car the odds of you finding one for sale within the first couple of years is going to be kinda slim.

[TA^Guy]

Well it is now on the Chevrolet website...

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/zr1/

[04REDGT1]

I'm suprised no one mentioned the Ford GT as a 'Corvette killer' when the Z06 was the top Vette.

[matts]

I'm suprised no one mentioned the Ford GT as a 'Corvette killer' when the Z06 was the top Vette.


which Z06? C5 or C6? it probably would manhandle a C5, but a C6 would probably take the nod in most circumstances

[TA^Guy]

Especially price.

[04REDGT1]

The C6 with a LS7 has 505hp. The Ford GT has 550hp and a few extra lbs. I think it would be a close race. If I had the money and time I'd let you know.