Albany 2008 Dates Here!

[Y2KGAGT]

August 14-17th, 2008

Hotel isnt ready for us yet, probably this week.

[Grims01GT]

Freakin awsome. I'll be talking to the boss Monday

[tgussie666]

Awesome....gotta tell the old man when to take leave.......

[PontiacGT201]

Sweet Im signing off those days at work tomorrow.

[lightningGA]

Is it later then usual this year???

Glad to have the dates set!!!

[TA^Guy]

Yes it is later. We ran into some rough weekends this summer with the GM nats and Truck Nats and wedding and stuff.

CRAP! Johns logged in. :lol:

[redhotdj]

well alrighty then, that week and weekend is aok for me ill be there

[PontiacGT201]

Good dates for me, Im going to work today to sign off for Albany and the GM Nationals. Whos all going to the GM Nats?

[Rayz]

The dates work for me, I'll be putting in for vacation on Monday.

At least it not on my anniversary like last year.:lol:

[Matt M]

I'm in, can't wait to meet everyone and have fun!

[GregFarz78]

I like the later dates it wasnt hot enough last year for july maybe by august it will be summer in upstate ny lol

[Riley1123d]

Can't wait, definately gonna put in the vacation at work tomorrow!

It is a little later than usual.. but will still be a blast! I just can't wait for it to be warm again..

[ga5speed02]

I hope my car is alowed inside the County of Albany :roflmfao: If not, I need to fix my GT eeeekkk

[redhotdj]

I like the later dates it wasnt hot enough last year for july maybe by august it will be summer in upstate ny lol
aah yes upstate ny gotta love it :lol:

[Big Joe]

I hope my car is alowed inside the County of Albany :roflmfao: If not, I need to fix my GT eeeekkk

:lol:

[Shad0wguy]

Count me in!!!

Looks like I'll be taking the Camaro, unless some serious work gets done to the Fiero.

[g4mbl3]

i will try to make it up but will not be able to till like the 16th or 17, as i will be going to college. i go till like noon or so so maybe the 15th. cant wait till the warmer temps!!!!!!!!!

[Y2KGAGT]

14th is check in and get ready for the show n shine, 15th is the show n shine, 16th is the track. Pick your day, all of them are fun.

[Pucci]

Way too soon for me to commit. but it is DEF on my to do list.

Pucci

[Big Joe]

Way too soon for me to commit. but it is DEF on my to do list.

Pucci


:gay:

[PontiacGT201]

Well I just reserved my room and have the days off work so Im all set for Albany. man I cant wait. Im a Albany Noob. Lol

Will anybody be up for meeting up in harrisburg and/or philly on the drive there? Anybody who knows the way so I can join up with them or ill just go by the mapquest directions.

[redhotdj]

Well I just reserved my room and have the days off work so Im all set for Albany. man I cant wait. Im a Albany Noob. Lol

Will anybody be up for meeting up in harrisburg and/or philly on the drive there? Anybody who knows the way so I can join up with them or ill just go by the mapquest directions.

hey question for you were did you reserve a room at i didnt think the rooms were ready yet, just asking

[Big Joe]

Will anybody be up for meeting up in harrisburg and/or philly on the drive there? Anybody who knows the way so I can join up with them or ill just go by the mapquest directions.

watch for future caravan threads. Last year we had a good 10 cars at least from pa, nj, ny, and ct driving up I87 together.

heres some of us at the rest stop. theres more people that were with us but just not in the picture. We weren't all grand am either. Mel had the subi rick had the vett.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/ga5speed02/Albany%20Meet%202007/AlbanyMeet2007158.jpg

[Big Joe]

hey question for you were did you reserve a room at i didnt think the rooms were ready yet, just asking

hotel info is up in a sticky in this section. Pretty much the same info it is every year. Go check it out. Already have mine booked.

[99GrandAMSE]

Way too soon for me to commit. but it is DEF on my to do list.

Pucci

It BETTER be!! :)

[99GrandAMSE]

... and my room is booked too :)

Arriving 13th ... leaving the morning/afternoon of the 17th :)

CAN'T WAIT!!!! :woohoo:

[Ralph]

I will have to discuss that with my normal rooming ppl later but im pretty sure we will be waiting for you Canadians to arrive again.

[99GrandAMSE]

... that is good bud as it will give you time enough to spend with your close friend from last year ... "The Porcelain God" :puke:

:roflmfao:

[Ralph]

... that is good bud as it will give you time enough to spend with your close friend from last year ... "The Porcelain God" :puke:

:roflmfao:

lol at least i made it to the toilet. Sometimes people don't get there :lol:. Plus ill be 21 this year

[99GrandAMSE]

... that is true, you made it which is always a good thing brother :)

[redhotdj]

my room is signed sealed and delivered or just booked it, hey kelly we'll be there the 13 also dam is it aug. yet :lol:

[99GrandAMSE]

:woohoo:

[Pucci]

Hey ralph....I am gonna have to borrow your key again. might have to snuggle with someone again, and I will need some good background music from gus when I enter.

Pucci

[Pucci]

Hey ralph....I am gonna have to borrow your key again. might have to snuggle with someone again, and I will need some good background music from gus when I enter.

Pucci

[Ralph]

wow you know how much :shit: I got into for that

[ga5speed02]

Well I just reserved my room and have the days off work so Im all set for Albany. man I cant wait. Im a Albany Noob. Lol

Will anybody be up for meeting up in harrisburg and/or philly on the drive there? Anybody who knows the way so I can join up with them or ill just go by the mapquest directions.

if you want you can meet at my house with rick and maybe some other kid i know

[Big Joe]

if you want you can meet at my house with rick and maybe some other kid i know

Hey mike, Got your car?

[PontiacGT201]

if you want you can meet at my house with rick and maybe some other kid i know

ok when albany gets closer ill send ya a pm for your address. My dad wants me to join up with someone incase I break down somewhere.

are you guys leaving on the 13th or 14th? if its the 13 ill have to change my hotel reservation. Im signed up to show up on the thursday 14

[Big Joe]

probably leaving on the 14th. I went up a day early once. Not worth the extra hotel money and stuff nothing really to do. Only a hand full of people around. I like to arrive and have the party already started for me when I get there :lol:.

[PontiacGT201]

probably leaving on the 14th. I went up a day early once. Not worth the extra hotel money and stuff nothing really to do. Only a hand full of people around. I like to arrive and have the party already started for me when I get there :lol:.

ok that works for me.

[PontiacGT201]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/ga5speed02/Albany%20Meet%202007/AlbanyMeet2007158.jpg

lol got to love the burger king hat.

[trogdorpontiac]

sounds fun, we'll see, that's right before school. hafta see what my situation is then.

[neufxracer01]

I'm definately In;)

[redhotdj]

Hey ralph....I am gonna have to borrow your key again. might have to snuggle with someone again, and I will need some good background music from gus when I enter.

Pucci

how about some pictures too :lol:

[Matt M]

Just reserved my room today!

[99GrandAMSE]

:)

[Riley1123d]

Is the hotel all set to be booked? ..They know we're coming and whatnot?

[redhotdj]

Is the hotel all set to be booked? ..They know we're coming and whatnot?

yes ray just call and tell them club ecm they have a block of rooms for us

[tenspeed]

Is the hotel all set to be booked? ..They know we're coming and what not?

Hotel info sticky --> http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83472

[Mirage]

sweeeett im SO going to this this year! ill cya all there! jim you want to get a room together?

[ga5speed02]

just keep in touch :)

[PontiacGT201]

sweeeett im SO going to this this year! ill cya all there! jim you want to get a room together?

aww thats cute, just keep it down at night:lol: JK

[Big Joe]

uhhhhhhhhh :uhh:

[InsaneSkippy]

Lauren and I are talking about making another road trip North this year. Hopefully school won't start until late August! I'd LOVE to do Albany again. I wouldn't have my Grand Am, but it'd still be fun :)

[redhotdj]

it would be good to see you both, what do you have

[InsaneSkippy]

it would be good to see you both, what do you haveI still have the Grand Am. I just wouldn't want to drive it up all that way. Especially with the bad luck I had last time :lol:

I would most likely be driving my G6 GTP.

[ga5speed02]

lol got to love the burger king hat.

you mean you love the car he is in :D

[tenspeed]

jim you want to get a room together?

Sorry, I already have a king booked.

Book a room with two queen beds and someone will split it with you.

[PontiacGT201]

you mean you love the car he is in :D

lol yeah love the car.

[Mirage]

Sorry, I already have a king booked.

Book a room with two queen beds and someone will split it with you.
yea good idea, im not sure if the wife is coming or not, depends on the baby situation, and work. ill know when it gets closer. but im definitely there this year, no excuses.

[lightningGA]

yea good idea, im not sure if the wife is coming or not, depends on the baby situation, and work. ill know when it gets closer. but im definitely there this year, no excuses.


Great to hear Adam!!!

[Riley1123d]

Ahh we definately didn't waste time this year.. not that we ever do! All set :)

[Shadow-D]

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, I don't need a room as I'm already here :lol:

[TA^Guy]

Awesome, it's 7 months away but I'm so glad everyone is so siked about this already.

[Pontiac]

I talked with my manager and she had no issues with my `marking the dates` for vacation.

Now to talk to my boss... The wife. heh

[iceman]

Hey John / Leanne can you ask the hotel about the rooms next to the conference room again? I'll take one of them

[Y2KGAGT]

Hey John / Leanne can you ask the hotel about the rooms next to the conference room again? I'll take one of them

Haha, I did! Just let them know you want it.

[Shadow-D]

Just another idea:
Last year there were a couple of members that brought R/C (Radio Controlled) cars, trucks or buggies with them.
How many people are thinking about bringing theres?
I might dust off my truck and bring it. If enough people bring theres, maybe we could have informal races at the park or the hotel.
I'm not talking about those Radio Shack specials either.
I have an electric Associated T4 that hasn't been run sense the last time I raced for points. Nitro or electric, doesn't matter to me but we might have to limit the use of the nitros to daylight hours do to the noise.

Again, just an idea...

[PontiacGT201]

Awesome, it's 7 months away but I'm so glad everyone is so siked about this already.

yeah I dont think I've ever been this siked about anything, man I cant wait.

[Big Joe]

Just another idea:
Last year there were a couple of members that brought R/C (Radio Controlled) cars, trucks or buggies with them.
How many people are thinking about bringing theres?
I might dust off my truck and bring it. If enough people bring theres, maybe we could have informal races at the park or the hotel.
I'm not talking about those Radio Shack specials either.
I have an electric Associated T4 that hasn't been run sense the last time I raced for points. Nitro or electric, doesn't matter to me but we might have to limit the use of the nitros to daylight hours do to the noise.

Again, just an idea...


If I can ever get my dam nitro engine broken in Ill bring mine.

[GregFarz78]

Hey John / Leanne can you ask the hotel about the rooms next to the conference room again? I'll take one of them

I'm in on that again if you want

[Ralph]

Just another idea:
Last year there were a couple of members that brought R/C (Radio Controlled) cars, trucks or buggies with them.
How many people are thinking about bringing theres?
I might dust off my truck and bring it. If enough people bring theres, maybe we could have informal races at the park or the hotel.
I'm not talking about those Radio Shack specials either.
I have an electric Associated T4 that hasn't been run sense the last time I raced for points. Nitro or electric, doesn't matter to me but we might have to limit the use of the nitros to daylight hours do to the noise.

Again, just an idea...

Mine will be back up with my new engine. i might not be able to be as retarded with it now because it will probably break in half under the power :lol:

[Shadow-D]

Cool, we have 7 months so that should be plenty of time for you guys to get those motors broken in properly. I want to see if my electric is still the fastest R/C around, it was last time I used it :lol:

[ga5speed02]

this waiting is killing me

[Jibo]

:)

[Big Joe]

Cool, we have 7 months so that should be plenty of time for you guys to get those motors broken in properly. I want to see if my electric is still the fastest R/C around, it was last time I used it :lol:

Oh, mines not electric. Heh. Ill have to bring enough gas to last the week.

[sunrunner_pei]

No need, if you run out there's a great hobby shop just down the road from the hotel on Central. And you don't even have to drive all over hell's creation to find it. :lol:

[Big Joe]

No need, if you run out there's a great hobby shop just down the road from the hotel on Central. And you don't even have to drive all over hell's creation to find it. :lol:

Ok good. Thats probably a better idea then lugging around nitro fuel. :D

[Shadow-D]

Hobby Town is just down the road but they're a little high price wise. I will bring you to another place that is on the north end of town called Competition Hobbies. Hell they even have a dirt track out back. Only problem is they close at 5 on Friday's

[jordanGT]

Sweet; this might finally be my year. Last year it happened during Indiana Sprint Week, and I just couldn't pull myself away from that. This year it misses sprint week AND midget week. :D

[Ralph]

Bought my raptor there last year. Although I now have a brushless motor I need to buy a bushless controller still.

[Shadow-D]

Ok everyone I just called Competition Hobbies and they have the dirt off road open.
We have a few choices here...
1) We could pay the $3 per hour and and play on the track
2) We could rent the track which includes the scoring system and have actual races

They can cater to us but we would need to shut it down at 11 PM.
The next problem would be deciding what day we would want to do this.
Friday is the Show and Saturday is the Drags.
I'm thinking after the drags on Saturday but I guess that all depends on how many people are bringing there R/Cs and who would be interested in this

[Big Joe]

Darrin I think we'll be fine in the parking lot. No need to get crazy. Theres only like 3-4 people with cars.

[Shadow-D]

like I said it was an idea, if we get more then it might be cool for like next year

[tenspeed]

You can bring your cars to the events on Friday and Saturday. Should be plenty of room anywhere.

I have about six electric trucks that they family used to race about ten years ago. We moved away from the track. They're all Associated based. I think they were called RC 10 but I might have that wrong.

[Shadow-D]

Jim: If they are Associated they most likely are RC10's Do they have a "tub" chassis? If they do, hold on to those as parts are getting hard to come by.

[Firefox234]

Sounds like a blast but driving from CO to NY is a pretty hefty drive. Hope everyone that does go has a blast. :)

[redhotdj]

Sounds like a blast but driving from CO to NY is a pretty hefty drive. Hope everyone that does go has a blast. :)

yes it would be quite a drive but albany is the grand nationals of grand am events

[keev14]

i will be there thurs and friday for sure. cant wait. keev

[GrandDam]

I took the Friday off! All set on that! Can't wait it seems so far away but I know it will be here before we know it! Anyone wanna try and convince the techs to let me run my car at the test n tune day?:argue: I've been unsuccessful in the past.

[Big Joe]

I took the Friday off! All set on that! Can't wait it seems so far away but I know it will be here before we know it! Anyone wanna try and convince the techs to let me run my car at the test n tune day?:argue: I've been unsuccessful in the past.

Char go like this :eek:

you don't need to run the car anyway, its too slow.

[TA^Guy]

I took the Friday off! All set on that! Can't wait it seems so far away but I know it will be here before we know it! Anyone wanna try and convince the techs to let me run my car at the test n tune day?:argue: I've been unsuccessful in the past.
Buy some fake door handles and use double sides tape. :)

BTW, maybe if your nice to RJ he'll get your car passed. His Aunt is one of the event coordinators there.

Shoot maybe we'll let you come intothe tower with use and watch the races from the Air Conditioning. :)
Sounds like a blast but driving from CO to NY is a pretty hefty drive. Hope everyone that does go has a blast. :)
Don't tell Pucci that, he drove his GTO from Texas last year and we've had a member fly in from Hawaii before.

[99GrandAMSE]

... not to mention from WI ;) :)

[Pucci]

Thats right. So not whining about driving from CO to NY.

Pucci

[Jchiasson]

Wouldn't it be cool if Tuny showed up?

[PontiacGT201]

that be cool if tuny showed up

[ga5speed02]

Buy some fake door handles and use double sides tape. :)

.

thats what i was supposed to do =P

[PontiacGT201]

Are the rubber chickens coming out this year or something new?

[lightningGA]

Buy some fake door handles and use double sides tape. :)

I was thinking about having some done up in vinyl and see if anyone notices :D

[kieler]

I'll be there!!! I will not have much done to my car because I just got engaged!!! I will have a little something something so it's on again this year!! BRING IT LOL!!!!

[Shadow-D]

Aren't you the same one that got his ass handed to him last year by every GA that went up against you? Even the 4 bangers!
Give it up! :funny:

[Ralph]

Aren't you the same one that got his ass handed to him last year by every GA that went up against you? Even the 4 bangers!
Give it up! :funny:

Wait till a 4 banger hands it to you this year :lol:

[PontiacGT201]

Aren't you the same one that got his ass handed to him last year by every GA that went up against you? Even the 4 bangers!
Give it up! :funny:

lol I remember the whole thread on that.

[Y2KGAGT]

Yeah and lets not start another. It was stupid and annoying.

[Shadow-D]

I thought so LOL

[ga5speed02]

Aren't you the same one that got his ass handed to him last year by every GA that went up against you? Even the 4 bangers!
Give it up! :funny:

Wait till a 4 banger hands it to you this year :lol:


as long as no one has an Escalade then no ones ass are getting handed to anyone

[Shadow-D]

:roflmfao:

[TA^Guy]

I'll be there!!! I will not have much done to my car because I just got engaged!!! I will have a little something something so it's on again this year!! BRING IT LOL!!!!
:roll:
as long as no one has an Escalade then no ones ass are getting handed to anyone
Yeah my bruises are just going away and getting back full use of my arm and hand. Please next time no matter how pissed I get, keep me away from speeding 3 ton vehicles. lol
Yeah and lets not start another.
It was stupid and annoying.
Yes it was.

Last year it was out of hand.

This gathering isn't to start flame wars about who's car is faster. Last year you came here bashing Grand Ams as if you owned some superior machine, however in the end you got spanked.

Any further discussions can be taken to PMs.

The threads with-in this section are about enjoying our cars and meeting old friends and new ones with a common interest.

If you want to brag how many bratworst your car makes take it somewhere else. Any further posts in this section about this will be removed.

[Shadow-D]

lol

[Ralph]

Sorry about my post it was more pointed at darrin for making a cheap shot then anything. I will hold me self back.

[Shadow-D]

Yeah my bruises are just going away and getting back full use of my arm and hand. Please next time no matter how pissed I get, keep me away from speeding 3 ton vehicles. lol
Do I have to use my nightstick? :funny:

[Pucci]

Mmmmm Bratworsts sounds good right now. Time to take a trip to the grocery store.

Pucci

[Bouchie11982]

14th is check in and get ready for the show n shine, 15th is the show n shine, 16th is the track. Pick your day, all of them are fun.
crap. i might have to go back and see if i requested the 14th off as well

[Bouchie11982]

oh btw...im going to make sure the door is double locked. pucci, i love you but that 3am wakeup call wasnt fun. oh and please put a sock on the door or something when there is porno going on on the other side...:rofl:

[ga5speed02]

oh btw...im going to make sure the door is double locked. pucci, i love you but that 3am wakeup call wasnt fun. oh and please put a sock on the door or something when there is porno going on on the other side...:rofl:

why all is welcome when it comes to porn. its for everyone to enjoy :lol: :roflmfao:

[redhotdj]

young and old alike :lol:

[Big Joe]

crap. i might have to go back and see if i requested the 14th off as well

eh. I was thinking about it and I'm going to be crammed for vacation days as it is. I think I'm going to work Thursday and just come up that night. Nothing good really happens till night time anyway :D I donno just a thought. I know your job gives you crap for taking off somtimes.

[redhotdj]

looks like kelly and i are going to be the only ones there on the 13

[ga5speed02]

if i can, i would like to go the 13th

[redhotdj]

when i get out of work wed. night iam off to albany its only about 2 hrs away

[99GrandAMSE]

... I'll be there :)

[Y2KGAGT]

I might be there ;)

[Shadow-D]

:twak: You better be there!
:lol:

[Big Joe]

when i get out of work wed. night iam off to albany its only about 2 hrs away

Dam Jack you must drive slow. :lol: I can make it to Albany in under 2 hours and I'm twice the distance as you.

[Bouchie11982]

i can make it to albany in 1h30m. you guys just drive sloooooow

[Big Joe]

i can make it to albany in 1h30m. you guys just drive sloooooow

Katie don't make me post the picture :lol:

[iceman]

my car has cheddar brats.. does that count

[Big Joe]

my car has cheddar brats.. does that count

heh, unrefrigerated cheddar brats. :lol: whoops

[redhotdj]

Dam Jack you must drive slow. :lol: I can make it to Albany in under 2 hours and I'm twice the distance as you.

by the time i get home, change, load the car 2 hours, Albany is about 1hr and 15 minutes away nice comfortable ride kinda like a slow comfortable screw :lol:

[Shadow-D]

by the time i get home, change, load the car 2 hours, Albany is about 1hr and 15 minutes away nice comfortable ride kinda like a slow comfortable screw :lol:
Easy there Jack, at your age those will knock ya on your bum if you're not careful :funny:

[redhotdj]

you know, somethin that will knock your socks off :lol:
hell thats why iam going to albany, what happens in albany stays in albany

[Shadow-D]

:roflmfao:

[PontiacGT201]

:lol:

[Ralph]

what happened in albany didn't stay in albany for me :puke:

[redhotdj]

your young yet, you'll learn :lol:

[Ralph]

your young yet, you'll learn :lol:

I remember someone starting me off early with a blender in my room :P

[redhotdj]

ah yes one must pace themself grasshopper :lol::lol:

[Ralph]

lol yea i was just messing with u normally im pretty good at the pace. Been to a few shows since and no problems(everyone had at least 1 person puke though :lol:). That damn monkey did me in!

[sunrunner_pei]

Ban The Monkey!

[99GrandAMSE]

:agree:

[Shadow-D]

:lol:

[redhotdj]

dam monkeys anyway

[Sweet98GA]

i'm not willing to commit til my car is running again, but Jim (tenspeed) was saying on our local boards that you need handles? John/Leanne, can you confirm this, and also find out if there's a way around this? at best my car would be runnin like a 14.5 so i mean, really...

[tenspeed]

Check post number 90 and 92 about door handles. I think that's where it starts.

[Sweet98GA]

Check post number 90 and 92 about door handles. I think that's where it starts.

Yeah well that just sucks. I think i'm going to call the track and give them the ol' WTF? LOL

[Big Joe]

Yeah shaved cars cant run.

[Big Joe]

Ban The Monkey!

Yeah right. You love the monkey.

[sunrunner_pei]

:drunkard: :puke:

[Big Joe]

:drunkard: :puke:

yep thats about how it went. :lol:

[99GrandAMSE]

... it was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!

[iceman]

Ban The Monkey!


Got some monkey in the closet right now should be abt 2.5 yrs old for albany ;)

[ga5speed02]

Yeah right. You love the monkey.

evil monkey or brass monkey(that funky monkey) where ever we go we bring monkey with us???

[redhotdj]

OH CHRIST ive got a monkey on my back :lol:

[Matt95GT]

i'm not willing to commit til my car is running again, but Jim (tenspeed) was saying on our local boards that you need handles? John/Leanne, can you confirm this, and also find out if there's a way around this? at best my car would be runnin like a 14.5 so i mean, really...

Racing or shaved... pick one. :lol:

They might not notice. They didn't do much of a tech inspection. I know one year they didn't check at all. The most thorough one, the guy looked under the hood for 10 seconds, tried to shake the battery, then sent me on my way.

[Ralph]

last year my inspection was the guy talking to me saying my car looked fast and I had to explain to him it was slow as hell :lol:

[TA^Guy]

last year my inspection was the guy talking to me saying my car looked fast and I had to explain to him it was slow as hell :lol:
And I had some dipshit that worked there talking trash because my son was in teh truck with the windows up acting like I was a bad parent...

I almost went off on his hibilly ass but Leanne prevented me from getting tossed out. I guess some of those rednecks never heard of Air Conditioning, not to mention my daughter was sitting in the truck with him. Stupid fcktard.

[ciclismosam]

too early for me to know for sure, but its on my list for the summer...would be nice to meet some of you guys in person

[redhotdj]

oh come on you can do it :lol:

[Ralph]

And I had some dipshit that worked there talking trash because my son was in teh truck with the windows up acting like I was a bad parent...

I almost went off on his hibilly ass but Leanne prevented me from getting tossed out. I guess some of those rednecks never heard of Air Conditioning, not to mention my daughter was sitting in the truck with him. Stupid fcktard.

This guy wouldn't also happen to own a silver escalade would he?

[Shadow-D]

:funny:

[Shadow-D]

He probably does:lol:

[TA^Guy]

Aren't you guys funny. lol

[ultimate cccp]

I'll try to attend depends when I go up to my base for my yearly 2 week activation in Mass.

[Bouchie11982]

...in which you never let me know to meet up for lunch :P

[ultimate cccp]

errr I'll be there next month.