99-05 Aed replica by JSP??

[03graystone]

i saw this year or two ago also, now i see it again. apparantly JSP wings, which make legitimate wings for most cars, decided to copy the Aed low wing?

whatever, but good price if anyone wants one. they arent that bad, i had one years ago from Aed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-02-Grand-AM-Custom-spoiler-wing-RARE-Limited-AED-N-R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33638QQihZ007QQitemZ1 70201342941QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[CoupdegrAce85]

Good eye Alex!
This should mount right up to the stock holes no prob, right?


I'm keepin my eye on this....

[Grims01GT]

personally, its to high. my $.02

[ancona46]

barf

[GregFarz78]

papers are in the mail

[boost21]

papers are in the mail

beat me to it lol

[03graystone]

what papers? i dont get it

[Deggy Fresh]

I think he means he bought it.

[Silver 4 door]

barf


agreed 110%

[boost21]

Ill let Farz explain it, hes more of a vet then I am, though I don't think this forum had the same problem.

[Silver 4 door]

I do like that spoiler on the 98 stlye GA, but not on a 99+ that is if its done right.

[Deggy Fresh]

I'll take a look at the wing when I get home, cant goto ebay/craigslist at work.

[Big Joe]

papers are in the mail

:lol:

[ManktheTank19]

Well the AED police is on this right now.

I might just buy it out of spike that I finally received an AED product.

[Silver 4 door]

Lol

[GregFarz78]

what papers? i dont get it

douchebag Len threatened a few people with that back in the day when (god forbid) he started getting competitors and AED wasnt the only game in town. Ask sikmindz if you really want the full history "papers are in the mail" is a inside joke only old school members would understand :lol:

I'll place bets AED already contacted JSP and threatened a lawsuit

[03graystone]

oh, i was a long time member of aed, had bunch of their products. just slow on catching on to that hahaha. i remember all the threats Len made about this when it was posted long time ago. and i also remember "racerbetty" (Len's wife) her signature said something about boycotting Sikmindz. haha yeah what douchebags. i would rather buy a copy or fake and get it faster than buy their products and wait years. im banned from the site form shittalking when they bulshitted members on update threads.

[TEAM_AED]

another one banned... dayamn.... I swear I see more BANS from AED right now than bumpers....

[norbit2]

I wish they would copy their body kit and sell it cheeper.

[GregFarz78]

I wish they would copy their body kit and sell it cheeper.

JSP probably doesn't take a year to ship you the product either

[99GrandAMSE]

... I knew what you meant Greg ;) ... in fact, *we* almost had a set :(

[Sweet98GA]

Whatever's whatever between me and AED, but this is still blatent copy right infringement, and "papers in the mail" have every right to be sent

[tenspeed]

The auction verbage says that it is "almost identical to an AED spoiler". Looks like JSP knows how to change dimensions enough to prevent court battles.

[Sweet98GA]

The auction verbage says that it is "almost identical to an AED spoiler". Looks like JSP knows how to change dimensions enough to prevent court battles.

10% is all it takes :)

[eric99gt]

I think JSP wouldn't have any problem finding lawyers to out do Len's ramblings. Especially in his financial situation.

[99GrandAMSE]

Please becareful which way this thread goes ;) :)

[lightningGA]

LoL at this thread!

Now if JSP would come out with some dual projector headlights :taped:

[TEAM_AED]

I saw somewhere that its not even a JSP spoiler... Something about a knock off not too sure....

[CoupdegrAce85]

Geeze this thing has gotten out of my price range already and still has a week to go.... o well, one less person watching this auction.

[03graystone]

LoL at this thread!

Now if JSP would come out with some dual projector headlights :taped:

:):):):):) comin from the first owner od authentic AED headlights, that must be bad lol. btw cant wait to see your car in person again, hood looks great as do your lights

[lightningGA]

:):):):):) comin from the first owner od authentic AED headlights, that must be bad lol. btw cant wait to see your car in person again, hood looks great as do your lights

LoL...I'm just tired of hearing excuses for the rest of headlights not shipping yet. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

Thanks....should be at Carlisle!!!

[ManktheTank19]

The seller wants 300.
I asked him if he has to take down the auction - I would purchase it just for the heck of it until he said he wanted 300 :lol:

[Gagt518]

another one banned... dayamn.... I swear I see more BANS from AED right now than bumpers....

:rofl2:

Personally i would take the stock wing over that

[boost21]

NOTE TO EBAY STAFF: This listing and spoiler in no way violate any copyright, patent, or trademark laws. This spoiler is an official and authentic JSP Spoiler and is listed as such. Please feel free to contact the manufacturer, JSP America, directly. This spoiler design is not protected by ANY company, including AED, by ANY national or international design patents. This spoiler is only referenced to AED as looking similar and is not manufactured by AED.


Item number: 170203353878


lol

[GregFarz78]

Whatever's whatever between me and AED, but this is still blatent copy right infringement, and "papers in the mail" have every right to be sent

As long as its not exactly the same its not copyright infringement...does AED even have a copyright on their design? This is not uncommon with body kits nissan have tons replica skyline body kits I never heard of nissan sending papers to stop production of them. Competition is good for business IMO helps drive the price down.

[ManktheTank19]

I also think JSP provides better customer service and customers receive their parts in a timely manner without hearing excuses about deaths, automobile industry is down, etc. What's next, the dog died :???:

It is sad that family members die, by why grieve about it so much by saying they slow down the business.

[Sweet98GA]

It is sad that family members die, by why grieve about it so much by saying they slow down the business.

because Len and Len Sr were 50/50 on projects... Len Sr's untimely passing caused a lot of issues... They didn't have a staff... it was Len and his dad pumpin shit out. Then Sr died, and quite honestly, I can understand where Len is coming from... He not only lost his father, but his business partner, and that can put you in a real sour mood ya kno?

[ManktheTank19]

because Len and Len Sr were 50/50 on projects... Len Sr's untimely passing caused a lot of issues... They didn't have a staff... it was Len and his dad pumpin shit out. Then Sr died, and quite honestly, I can understand where Len is coming from... He not only lost his father, but his business partner, and that can put you in a real sour mood ya kno?

This has happened over a year ago - I know it is a tragic event but why keep using it as an excuse. You have people who pay tons of money for a product and they have yet to receive this product for year to years. Not only receive the product, but don't receive any customer service. How can a company run on this. A death is a death, it shouldn't destroy the business. If it does, then you know Sr. did all the work and Len can't keep up.

When a company doesn't answer the phone, return messages, return PM's, or post - what are they doing? The last update was the shop pictures. If he is busy, post some picture of the headlights and tails. The only thing they do on the site is ban people who ask for their money or parts.

How can anyone support them and give them the benefit of the doubt:???:

[lightningGA]

because Len and Len Sr were 50/50 on projects... Len Sr's untimely passing caused a lot of issues... They didn't have a staff... it was Len and his dad pumpin shit out. Then Sr died, and quite honestly, I can understand where Len is coming from... He not only lost his father, but his business partner, and that can put you in a real sour mood ya kno?


I completely agree with you Gus....but knowing this....why would you take NEW orders and payment that you know you can't fill at this time??? That's just bad buisness practice no matter what the situation is.

[Gagt518]

Dan, Did you get banned :???2:

[Sweet98GA]

Yeah I hear both of you, I was just responding to original reasons... if he's still saying that now, I don't have a reply to that... hell I haven't even spoken to them since the blow out last April...

OT- I would like to bitch that I did become very close with Len and Sus, and while I can understand their decision to not be friends with me, ban me from the site and not talk to me, it erks me that Eddie can be repeatedly banned, and unbanned.

and he's a dink too... he gets banned so he comes over here and talks mad shit... then gets unbanned and disappears... his next appearance here will be when he gets banned again

[ManktheTank19]

Dan, Did you get banned :???2:

Not yet but I expect to be soon.

[FusionDreams]

I don't really like the curve. I would like something a little taller than the stock one on my GA, but I think that might be a bit over the top....

[tenspeed]

It doesn't matter anymore. The wing auction is gone.....

[cobrajeff92]

no it not its back up. just search under custom grand am. now its a buy it now price of299. thats still a lil pricey.

[lightningGA]

Here's the new link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170203353878&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

[boost21]

NOTE TO EBAY STAFF: This listing and spoiler in no way violate any copyright, patent, or trademark laws. This spoiler is an official and authentic JSP Spoiler and is listed as such. Please feel free to contact the manufacturer, JSP America, directly. This spoiler design is not protected by ANY company, including AED, by ANY national or international design patents. This spoiler is only referenced to AED as looking similar and is not manufactured by AED.


Item number: 170203353878


lol

item number for you guys

[Big Joe]

seems like all the cool kids are getting banned from AED. Is that the new trendy thing to do? :lol: j/p.

I wouldn't of been surprised If my tail lights had gotten Lens attention, but they never did. I'm guessing its cause he never saw them.

[cobrajeff92]

seems like all the cool kids are getting banned from AED. Is that the new trendy thing to do? :lol: j/p.

I wouldn't of been surprised If my tail lights had gotten Lens attention, but they never did. I'm guessing its cause he never saw them.

i think he did see them joe. a little after you made them i think mank or someone posted some pics of them. if i remember i dont think he cared

[ManktheTank19]

Yes I did post them and nothing was said or done to the thread :lol:

[SikMindz]

item number for you guys

Ouch...pwnt. lol

I still like mine better- and it's all CF. lol

Cmon boys- pony up the extra cash and you can have my entire car! :lol:

[TEAM_AED]

I completely agree with you Gus....but knowing this....why would you take NEW orders and payment that you know you can't fill at this time??? That's just bad buisness practice no matter what the situation is.

gotta say I agree with you there

[SikMindz]

Not to add fuel to the fire but it sounds to me like AED already went at JSP and got smacked down. Why would JSP go through so much trouble to specifically mention AED and Len and how it is NOT copyrighted, trademarked, et al. unless it was purely to rub it in that they can legally sell it with no reprimand?

[99GrandAMSE]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA ... it isn't allowed to be installed on a Civic?? ... OMG, can you imagine :shake: :lol:

[TEAM_AED]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA ... it isn't allowed to be installed on a Civic?? ... OMG, can you imagine :shake: :lol:

does it say that on there? THats freakin hilarious!

[Sweet98GA]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA ... it isn't allowed to be installed on a Civic?? ... OMG, can you imagine :shake: :lol:

does it say that on there? THats freakin hilarious!

This spoiler will fit all 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002 Pontiac Grand Am's.
This spoiler may fit other vehicles as well, but it is your responsibility to checking fittament before bidding and purchasing this spoiler. We do not have an application guide for any other car besides the Grand Am, so you will have to check that independantly. We have been told directly by Leonard from AED Central that they do not want this spoiler installed on a Civic, only on Grand Am's. So, I'm assuming that it must look good on a Civic also

Last sentence...

[Mirage]

so why doesnt this guy who is selling it just sell it on here or something instead of ebay becuase it keeps getting shut down?

[cobrajeff92]

yup . i agree

[Gagt518]

We have been told directly by Leonard from AED Central that they do not want this spoiler installed on a Civic, only on Grand Am's. So, I'm assuming that it must look good on a Civic also

:roflmfao:

[99GrandAMSE]

... yeah, I thought it was hillarious :lol:

[sammybammy]

there is a thread titled "shop shots" but i can't see it. i'm pretty sure Dan is the only one here that could even see that thread being as all AED purchasers are banned. just curious and didn'tknow if anyone had seen that.

[ManktheTank19]

Pretty much they are shop pictures of there shop. The shop is supposedly making their parts that they owe to most of their members

[Terp]

there is a thread titled "shop shots" but i can't see it. i'm pretty sure Dan is the only one here that could even see that thread being as all AED purchasers are banned. just curious and didn'tknow if anyone had seen that.

I can see it...its nothing special... a few molds and alot of other stuff that has absolutly nothing to do with cars.