Im Back!!! (GA Powered Fiero)

[bandit307]

It has been a while since i have contributed to the Forum. I have been so busy with work and my new project.

So here are some pics of what i have been up to. More to come soon, these were just takin with my phone today. I will bring the digital camera to the shop tomorrow.

As some of you might remember I have went through 3 Transmissions now on the GA and well I decided to retire the old girl. Well not all of her.

My 1987 Fiero GT is getting a 3400. I already have my 7730 ECM to run it and the ship is on its way to be burnt. Stage 2+ Clutch & Aluuminum Flywheel on its way from spec.com, and new fel-pro gaskets since my LIM is leaking.

So i will have a 3400 Fiero with a 5-speed. Its going to be fun. I also plan on putting in a cam and doing the 3500 top end swap this winter.

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[RazorDX]

Sounds pretty sweet. It still saddens me that the only mid-engine sports car GM produced came with a wimpy (albeit reliable) 4 cylinder and a weak v6. That should be quite an improvement; keep us posted!

[Silver 4 door]

should be sweet when done. you going to part out the GA? if so the mirrors are mine!

oh and I have the same creeper at work...lol

[Gagt518]

:welcome: back man, sorry to hear about the GA

[bandit307]

should be sweet when done. you going to part out the GA? if so the mirrors are mine!

oh and I have the same creeper at work...lol

Yes i will be parting out the GA. So if you want something PM me a price. I will let everything go pretty cheap. But expect to wait a couple weeks, really busy right now with work and the project. So i wont get around to shipping everything out right away.

[Silver 4 door]

so how do you like the fiero besides the no HP. I was thinking of getting one to mess around with.

pm'ed ya too

[bandit307]

so how do you like the fiero besides the no HP. I was thinking of getting one to mess around with.

pm'ed ya too

I love it. Had one when i was 16 but had to get rid of it to pay some bills off. Found this one and its in pretty good condition. So I will be holding on to her for a while.

[Silver 4 door]

nice I found a yellow GT thats in really good shape, but I think i need to get the camaro done first.

cant wait to see some pix of the install

[Greengo 07]

what 5 speed trans you running with it??

[Deggy Fresh]

I like to call the Feiro "GM's Mid-engine mistake". The car had so much more potential but it lacked power and aftermarket parts.

[Deggy Fresh]

what 5 speed trans you running with it??

Probably something off of a older J-body or Beretta.

[Ralph]

Probably something off of a older J-body or Beretta.

How about the stock 2.8 Fiero Transmission (HM282)

[bandit307]

How about the stock 2.8 Fiero Transmission (HM282)

That is exactally what im running. Thanks Ralph.

Here are some more update pics.

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[Silver 4 door]

wow talk about being fully comitted to the swap! hope the swap goes well man.

[ManktheTank19]

Very nice and welcome back - I just saw a feiro GT and the rear looks so sexy on them :drool:

Maybe someday I will have one with a swap - like the 3800 SC

[Ralph]

your inspiring me again only had the 94 for 6 months now and I already want to drop the w41 into a fiero

[Greengo 07]

cool, i didnt know that old fiero trans would fit up to the 3.4,

[DomestikDemon]

How the hell did you get that thing out with the trans mounts still attached? (nice crane BTW, i have the same one) I had one heck of a time ripping the engine and trans out together. Ive come to the conclusion that its easier to take the engine out first, then take out the trans....

Have fun with the swap, bolting the Getrag to the motor is cake. Its going to be real nice for you since the trany bolts into the Fiero....thay dont bolt up to a GA at all. One weekend sometime soon, my boss is going to let me have access to the shop for the weekend so I can weld up my trans mounts. Let us know hopw the install goes, maybe I can learn something from that might help me along the way...

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

Nice. thats a ton of kitty litter you got on the floor there hahaha. btw have fun and keep up updated.

[gt00]

Take care working under the vehicle with just that jack holding it up . I've seen jacks fail while being used ..... ;)

[ssracer]

Good luck. There is a buy on one of my local boards putting a nissan 4 cyl in a fiero, and another guy locally who has shoehorned a northstar V8 into one...it is sweet.

[Silver 4 door]

V8 in something like that would be so sweet!.
my friend here put a 500 into a vaga...lol anything is possible

[car audio dave]

theres a guy on LS1tech putting an LS7 into a fiero. hes using the G6 manual tranny too. who knew they bolted together (with an adaptor). http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886893

this looks like itll be a great swap. good luck and make sure to post your impression when its all said and done.

[PontiacGA]

That should be a first. 3400 in a Fiero. I've seen V8's and 3800 SC engines in them already.

[bandit307]

Got the tranny unbolted from the 3400, it actually wasnt as bad as i thought it would be. I believe my clutch and flywheel came in today via ups, but i wasnt home. So i will have to wait till tomorow to find out.

Aslo built a lower engine mount using the stock 2.8 mount with a little cutting as seen below. Now comes the wiring.



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[Shad0wguy]

Damn, that should have a nice kick in the seat when your done.

I gotta admit I am kinda jealous. I can't even get my Fiero running with its stock 4-cyl. Eventually though I'd like to swap in a turbocharged Quad4.

[bandit307]

Clutch and flywheel came in today. Just a couple update pictures.

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[TA^Guy]

Very nice, but as gt00 said, please, please put something under that car when under it like that. Maybe get two transmission jacks to put under the rear as a fail safe. I know it's a little car but having it fall on you it'll feel like a cement truck.

[99blackSE]

Looks like a fun little project. Cool stuff.

Couple off topic things:

1) Badger Daylighting. You work for em? I've seen their trucks out here as well.

2) I have the same Dragon hat as you but mine's not as dirty lol.

[bandit307]

Looks like a fun little project. Cool stuff.

Couple off topic things:

1) Badger Daylighting. You work for em? I've seen their trucks out here as well.

2) I have the same Dragon hat as you but mine's not as dirty lol.

Yes i work for Badger. I operate, been with them for about 8 months. But I have been hydrovacing for over 4 years now. Waiting for my credit to get better to buy a hydrovac. $600,000 aint easy to get I guess. lol.

Ya its my work hat, so it gets a little dirty.


Small update. Still waiting on parts, getting a little frustrated now. But just doing some clean up and getting stuff pretty.

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[Gravey]

That's awesome! Can't wait to hear more about it! What else do you have planned for it after you get the 3400 in there? More performance? any body mods? we needs to know!!!

[bandit307]

That's awesome! Can't wait to hear more about it! What else do you have planned for it after you get the 3400 in there? More performance? any body mods? we needs to know!!!


Ya I have a few things planned.

Performance:

In Progress:
Manifold back 2.5 Exhaust
Modified stock Intake
Mild Port Matching
Stage 2+ clutch
Alum. Flywheel

For sure this winter:
3400 UIM Ported
3500 LIM Ported
3500 Heads ported
65mm TB
Magnum Roller Rockers - 1.6 Ratio
New Rings
New Crank & Rod Bearings

When Money & Time Permits:
Custom Exhaust Manifolds
Garret T4 60 Trim
Intercooler, Water/Meth
Stage 3 Turbo Cam
LS6 Valve Springs
Comp Retainers
Limited Slip Dif.
Fuel Delivery Upgrades


I will have to gather some pictures of the Dress up mods I am going to be doing.

[GregFarz78]

Really nice swap man good luck with it keep us updated

[bandit307]

I finally get to put the engine back together. Went and picked up a timing cover gasket set so i can swap the 2.8L timing cover onto the 3400. Also my top end kit came in today. I got the steel Fel-Pro LIM gaskets this time, was already on my second set of plastics.

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[Shadow-D]

Looks good, :welcome: Back!

[RickHigginsHtbr]

i need to see the outcome of this, lookin good so far

[bandit307]

UPDATE:

I have the 3400 back together and mounted on the trans. and cradle. 90% of my wiring is done, once i finish it up. Which should be tomorrow i will be putting the cradle back into the car and will be running my fuel and coolant lines. Not much left to go now should be up and running early next week. I will take some pictures of everything tomorrow.

[Dboucher]

Nice, always loved the Fiero's. can't wait to see the finished product. :)

[Shadow-D]

Sounds like it's coming along very well :)

[bandit307]

BIG UPDATE:

Anyone curious to see what a 3400 looks like in a Fiero?

Well here you go, the wiring is a bit of a mess right now i have to tidy it up and run the harness into the cab. I am waiting on my chip & connectors for my ECM along with a passenger side axle, I was sent the wrong one. Then all I have left to do is run my fuel, coolant lines and brake booster line.

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I will take some better pictures with the digital very soon.

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Damn! That's sweet! I'm really envious now, I wish I had a manual with my 3.4L. But it looks killer so far. Keep us updated!!

[bandit307]

HUGE UPDATE:

IT RUNS!!!!

Thats right, I started up the Fiero today and she fired. All that is left is coolant lines & Exhasust. Other then tidying everything up.

Some pics and a short video. If your wondering what a 3400 sounds like running straight manifolds. Now you know.

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My workspace, Its gona take a while to clean this up.

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[ManktheTank19]

Congrats Man - can't wait till it is done :)

[RickHigginsHtbr]

get that thing on the road! whats the weight difference between a ga and a fiero?

[ssracer]

Awesome!

[bandit307]

The Fiero is 2600lbs with the 2.8, the 3400 is lighter then the iron 2.8 & the GA is about 3100lbs IIRC.

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Tidying up indeed. Make that engine bay sparkle! What kind of muffler setup are you gonna run with the 3.4L now?

[Gravey]

Awesome more pics! Can't wait to get home to look at them! work = blocked pics FTL!!!

[bandit307]

;1186466']Tidying up indeed. Make that engine bay sparkle! What kind of muffler setup are you gonna run with the 3.4L now?

Well since i have very limited space for exhaust, About 2.5-3 feet per side actually. I am going to split the exhaust right after the manifold and run two 2.25" pipes to either side with 9" Flo~Pro glass packs and hopefully a set of resinator tips if they will fit.

[Ralph]

Impressive I'd like to see how this goes up against the quad 4 swaps

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Well since i have very limited space for exhaust, About 2.5-3 feet per side actually. I am going to split the exhaust right after the manifold and run two 2.25" pipes to either side with 9" Flo~Pro glass packs and hopefully a set of resinator tips if they will fit.

Nice, these motors sound beast with glasspacks, I love the way mine sounds with it. Can't wait to see a video of the car crusin now!

[Gagt518]

Congrads on the succesful motor swap :applause:

[RC360]

sweet dude!!!