GAs can't be as unreliable as people say...

[GMFWDFAN]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-Pontiac-Grand-Am-se_W0QQitemZ270233834308QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item27 0233834308&
^^2002 with 193k miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-PONTIAC-GRAND-AM-GT-BLACK-RAM-AIR-COUPE_W0QQitemZ140229495541QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m140229495541&
^^2000 with 210k miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-Pontiac-Grand-AM_W0QQitemZ300222155701QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item30 0222155701&
^^2001 with 150k miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Black-Grand-AM-GT_W0QQitemZ300220463877QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item30 0220463877&
^^2004 with 135k miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Pontiac-Grand-Am-GT-RAM-AIR-V6-Auto-Bright-Red-Nic_W0QQitemZ360047896863QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 60047896863&
^^2004 with 134k miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/99-Pontiac-Grand-Am-4-Door-2-4L_W0QQitemZ120255152816QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item12 0255152816&
^^1999 with 246k miles. It's broken but oh well. :lol:


I believe these have proven that GAs can in fact not break down 24/7 and be driven a lot.

[GregFarz78]

wow those sellers are smoking crack if they think anyone is going to pay that much for those high mileage cars, besides the last one thats a decent price for a clean non running car

[GMFWDFAN]

Oh yeah. The cars are for the most part in terrible condition with crazy prices, but they are all still somewhat alive. :lol:

[mikekanzler]

I believe these have proven that GAs can in fact not break down 24/7 and be driven a lot.

:wow: but i thought only hondas lasted that long (sarcasm)

[GMFWDFAN]

Well based on what I hear and read in Consumer Reports (:lol:), GAs are pieces of shit that don't go one week without dying.

[mikekanzler]

Well based on what I hear and read in Consumer Reports (:lol:), GAs are pieces of shit that don't go one week without dying.

i know but i think that is awesome i get that all the time from my friends about how my car wont last for 100000 miles besides didnt they pick a car last years and then back away from it when it started having problems? :lol:

[mikekanzler]

Consumer Reports said it no longer recommends V6 versions of Toyota's Camry or four-wheel-drive V8 versions of its Tundra pick-up because of poor reliability

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/autos/cr_reliability/index.htm

[jonnythan]

The engines and trannies appear to be very reliable when maintained. The bodies also tend to be tough and last a long time.

It's everything attached to them that's the issue ;)

I've got 190k on my 1998 GA. Engine and transmission still run like tops with no failures.

However, I've major failures of the A/C system (compressor, condensor, and sensor), the suspension (bushings, sway bar links, ball joints), the drivetrain (CV joints, wheel bearings), fuel system (fuel pump), electrical system (alternator), and cooling system (water pump).

I've fixed them all so far, and she's still running strong, but my GA has not been reliable.


My girlfriend's '94 Civic, meanwhile, has been ridiculously reliable. It's going on 190k as well and the only failures have been alternator and clutch.

[sunrunner_pei]

The engines and trannies appear to be very reliable when maintained. The bodies also tend to be tough and last a long time.

It's everything attached to them that's the issue ;)

I've got 190k on my 1998 GA. Engine and transmission still run like tops with no failures.

However, I've major failures of the A/C system (compressor, condensor, and sensor), the suspension (bushings, sway bar links, ball joints), the drivetrain (CV joints, wheel bearings), fuel system (fuel pump), and cooling system (water pump).

I've fixed them all so far, and she's still running strong, but my GA has not been reliable.

Dude, your car is 10 years old with 190,000 miles. When people talk about reliability they usually refer to the first years of the car's life. Of course components are going to fail at some time. I don't know of anything that lasts forever. :)

[jonnythan]

Dude, your car is 10 years old with 190,000 miles. When people talk about reliability they usually refer to the first years of the car's life. Of course components are going to fail at some time. I don't know of anything that lasts forever. :)

I recognize that it's 10 years old with almost 200,000 miles. I'm just saying that I have no trouble believing that the Grand Am is, in general, less reliable than some other cars (like Hondas or Toyotas) of the same vintage.

My girlfriend also had a '92 Corolla that she thrashed for 100,000 miles. She got it when it already had 100,000 miles. She never had any major work done until the tranny finally started popping out of fifth gear and she dumped it for the Civic. By contrast, in 160,000 miles I've experienced 3 dead-on-the-road failures and a dozen or so minor failures. If I had been to a mechanic to fix all these, I would have many thousands invested in fixing this car over the years.

If the stats show the GA is less reliable than many other cars from the same time period, I believe it. My experience conforms with that just fine.


You're not trying to say that the GA is more reliable than similar cars from other manufacturers are you?

[mikekanzler]

You're not trying to say that the GA is more reliable than similar cars from other manufacturers are you?

i dont necessarily think that is what he was saying... but on the topic i had a 1989 couger 5.0 that had 295xxx miles when i sold it. i dont really think that it is what car but who owns the car that matters the only thing i had to replace was a clutch

[tenspeed]

Well based on what I hear and read in Consumer Reports.....

I have filled out Consumer Report forms in the past. They are concerned with how many and what types of issues need repairing.

As any car accumulates the miles, parts wear out. Many people feel that the repair costs are excessive and premature because they are still making payments.

Maybe the Asian cars do take longer to fail. Many people who can afford to buy them realize that machines need maintenance. Maybe people who have money don't read Consumer Reports....or fill out forms.

[RazorDX]

Grand Ams, Minivans, J-Bodies, etc will always have reputations as being 'unreliable' because they are so common. People buy them used, drive them for a year without changing the oil or checking the coolant level, then discount the car or manufacturer as shit because the car fails. Nobody really walks around saying "hey guys, my car works just fine!" It's always the negative that gets spread around.

This also is somewhat relevant to Jim's point; Grand Ams are relatively cheap cars and can be found used on practically any corner car lot. Since they were cheap to begin with and are cheap to get now, cheap people will drive them. Cheap people don't change the oil in the cars, they don't check the coolant level, they don't do any maintenance that we do regularly.

I guess my point is that it doesn't matter whether it's a Mercedes, a Honda, or a Pontiac, an idiot can ruin any car.

[jonnythan]

You guys seem really defensive and unwilling to accept the possibility that GAs simply are less reliable than many others.

[tenspeed]

You guys seem really defensive and unwilling to accept the possibility that GAs simply are less reliable than many others.

GA's are prone to more failures than other more expensive brands. I would expect a higher dollar car to last longer with less breakdowns. I would also expect when a high dollar car does break down, the repairs are more expensive.

[jonnythan]

GA's are prone to more failures than other more expensive brands. I would expect a higher dollar car to last longer with less breakdowns. I would also expect when a high dollar car does break down, the repairs are more expensive.

More expensive brands?

Like, say, Civics or Corollas?

:???:

I'll tell you what... that Civic's parts are in general a lot cheaper - and easier to install/replace - than my GA.

[GMFWDFAN]

I never said GAs were more reliable. They have their fair share of problems. But these high-ass mileage ones on eBay prove that GAs can't be as bad as their reputation says they are.

Consumer Reports had nothing but negative things to say about all years and trim levels of the Grand Am.

[GregFarz78]

I can see the ecotec lasting 200k+ easy but the 3.4 probably not as likely, pontiac seems to skimp a little on paint too I've seen GAs, GPs, and bonnies not all that old with rust on them already.

[jonnythan]

I never said GAs were more reliable. They have their fair share of problems. But these high-ass mileage ones on eBay prove that GAs can't be as bad as their reputation says they are.

Consumer Reports had nothing but negative things to say about all years and trim levels of the Grand Am.

No one is going to junk a perfectly good car because the water pump is toast. Or the radiator is clogged. Or the lower control arm bushings are torn apart.

But all those problems can add up and be pretty costly for a typical owner who isn't willing to change any of those things by themselves. They're significant failures, and the Grand Am has more than its fair share of them.

The reliability ratings aren't made up. The engines aren't dying. The engines are apparently quite good, except for the LIM problems. But the other stuff - the accessory stuff, small steering and suspension components, cooling system stuff, etc - have failures and that's where the reliability problems come in.

I just checked MSN Autos and the 97 GA has relatively frequent problems with the FPR, instrument panel cluster, and crank position sensor. 99 GA has problems with fuel injectors, wheel speed sensors, blower motor resistor, and ignition cylinder.

Why do you think just about everyone on the forums knows about LIM failures, FPR failures, etc?

Ah well. I'm fighting the flood with a bucket here I think :lol:

[95blackz26]

there was a 3400 equipped minivan that had 270+k on the clock it was a 97 or 98 iirc it all depends on how its taken care of

[jonnythan]

there was a 3400 equipped minivan that had 270+k on the clock it was a 97 or 98 iirc it all depends on how its taken care of

Oh yeah?

Then why has mine had so many problems? ;)

[RazorDX]

Why has mine had so little if it's unreliable?

[mikekanzler]

Oh yeah?

Then why has mine had so many problems? ;)

and how come mine hasnt? ;)

[Ralph]

GAs are fine as we all know as long as u care for them im at about 150k and only had 1 minor ignition problem I had to fix that cost me 30 bucks.

[sunrunner_pei]

Oh yeah?

Then why has mine had so many problems? ;)

So you had a bad experience. :shrug: If you hate it so much and it's so unrreliable, buy a damn Honda. We won't miss you. Really.

[jonnythan]

So you had a bad experience. :shrug: If you hate it so much and it's so unrreliable, buy a damn Honda. We won't miss you. Really.

Pardon me, but can you quote the part where I said I didn't like my GA?

Does accepting the fact that GAs are less reliable than other cars mean that I hate my GA?

Be reasonable.

[sunrunner_pei]

Pardon me, but can you quote the part where I said I didn't like my GA?

Does accepting the fact that GAs are less reliable than other cars mean that I hate my GA?

Be reasonable.

Expecting a car to last for as long as yours has without some repairs is unreasonable. No matter what name is on it. Many others have already shown that your experience is not the only one to be had.

BTW, it's hardly fact. It's your opinion. :)

[mikekanzler]

So you had a bad experience. :shrug: If you hate it so much and it's so unrreliable, buy a damn Honda. We won't miss you. Really.

or go buy a dsm so you can replace the transmission twice within 10000 miles or boost spike and valve check ;) (trust me)

[jonnythan]

Expecting a car to last for as long as yours has without some repairs is unreasonable. No matter what name is on it. Many others have already shown that your experience is not the only one to be had.

BTW, it's hardly fact. It's your opinion. :)

Pardon me, but where did I say that I expected it to last 190,000 miles without some significant repairs?

You guys are putting words in my mouth. I love my car, and I'm not at all surprised at any of the work that I've had to put into it. I'm thoroughly impressed that the engine and transmission are doing so well with almost 200,000 miles.

Pay attention to the content of my posts, and don't assume that I hate my car or hate being a GA owner because of this or that.

All of the statistics I have ever seen indicate that the Grand Am is not a highly reliable car the way many others (particularly Japanese cars of similar vintages) are.

Part of loving something is accepting its imperfections. It's more like infatuation if you can't see any faults ;)

[sunrunner_pei]

Pardon me, but where did I say that I expected it to last 190,000 miles without some significant repairs?

You guys are putting words in my mouth. I love my car, and I'm not at all surprised at any of the work that I've had to put into it. I'm thoroughly impressed that the engine and transmission are doing so well with almost 200,000 miles.

Pay attention to the content of my posts, and don't assume that I hate my car or hate being a GA owner because of this or that.

All of the statistics I have ever seen indicate that the Grand Am is not a highly reliable car the way many others (particularly Japanese cars of similar vintages) are.

Part of loving something is accepting its imperfections. It's more like infatuation if you can't see any faults ;)

Can't see faults? Sure, I can see faults. Just look at the history I had with my '99. My '03, on the other hand, has been a dream. But that doesn't mean it didn't have the LIM gasket replaced or that the brakes last forever.

I have looked at other makes from the same vintage. However I'm not naive or been brainwashed to think that you can hide from problems or repairs based on the manufacturer. I can't count how many Hondas or Toyotas are rusted out or spewing black or blue smoke while rattling along down the road.

But hey, if you can be suckered in by clever marketing and disguised reality, then that's fine by me.

Personally, I'll buy a car based on the merits of that car, not by the name that's pasted on it. I love my Vibe, and as you know, it's a 95% Toyota creation. Don't for one second think that I'm against the imports. I just don't buy into the hype that they're the be-all-to-end-all.

Spend some time on forums for various other cars and you'll find a laundry list of common problems with each of them. :)

[jonnythan]

Can't see faults? Sure, I can see faults. Just look at the history I had with my '99. My '03, on the other hand, has been a dream. But that doesn't mean it didn't have the LIM gasket replaced or that the brakes last forever.

I have looked at other makes from the same vintage. However I'm not naive or been brainwashed to think that you can hide from problems or repairs based on the manufacturer. I can't count how many Hondas or Toyotas are rusted out or spewing black or blue smoke while rattling along down the road.

But hey, if you can be suckered in by clever marketing and disguised reality, then that's fine by me.

Personally, I'll buy a car based on the merits of that car, not by the name that's pasted on it. I love my Vibe, and as you know, it's a 95% Toyota creation. Don't for one second think that I'm against the imports. I just don't buy into the hype that they're the be-all-to-end-all.

Spend some time on forums for various other cars and you'll find a laundry list of common problems with each of them. :)

Clever marketing and disguised reality?

I'm talking about actual reliability statistics from people whose job it is to compile and compare these statistics.

I never said you were "against imports." I never said that certain brands are all more reliable than others.

I thought we were just comparing reliability statistics of one model of car versus another. Now I don't know what we're talking about, because you've made it about so much more. And you've proved your inability to discuss the issue on merit and facts, but are insisting on hyperbole and anecdotes.

I'm done. :roll2:

[mikekanzler]

You guys seem really defensive and unwilling to accept the possibility that GAs simply are less reliable than many others.

I recognize that it's 10 years old with almost 200,000 miles. I'm just saying that I have no trouble believing that the Grand Am is, in general, less reliable than some other cars (like Hondas or Toyotas) of the same vintage.

My girlfriend also had a '92 Corolla that she thrashed for 100,000 miles. She got it when it already had 100,000 miles. She never had any major work done until the tranny finally started popping out of fifth gear and she dumped it for the Civic. By contrast, in 160,000 miles I've experienced 3 dead-on-the-road failures and a dozen or so minor failures. If I had been to a mechanic to fix all these, I would have many thousands invested in fixing this car over the years.

If the stats show the GA is less reliable than many other cars from the same time period, I believe it. My experience conforms with that just fine.


You're not trying to say that the GA is more reliable than similar cars from other manufacturers are you?

The engines and trannies appear to be very reliable when maintained. The bodies also tend to be tough and last a long time.

It's everything attached to them that's the issue ;)

I've got 190k on my 1998 GA. Engine and transmission still run like tops with no failures.

However, I've major failures of the A/C system (compressor, condensor, and sensor), the suspension (bushings, sway bar links, ball joints), the drivetrain (CV joints, wheel bearings), fuel system (fuel pump), electrical system (alternator), and cooling system (water pump).

I've fixed them all so far, and she's still running strong, but my GA has not been reliable.


My girlfriend's '94 Civic, meanwhile, has been ridiculously reliable. It's going on 190k as well and the only failures have been alternator and clutch.

maybe because it seems ,IMO, like all you have done is voice a opinion that a lot of people dont agree with and then you seem to turn around and talk down to us because we dont agree

[sunrunner_pei]

maybe because it seems ,IMO, like all you have done is voice a opinion that a lot of people dont agree with and then you seem to turn around and talk down to us because we dont agree

Don't worry, he does this all the time. Hence my (strong) reaction to his initial comments. *sigh*

[jonnythan]

Talk down because you don't agree?

Nah. Talk down because you're unable to discuss the concept dispassionately.

[sunrunner_pei]

Talk down because you don't agree?

Nah. Talk down because you're unable to discuss the concept dispassionately.

Sorry, bud. I can't help it if we're passionate about our cars, or if we're tired of this pointless debate. If you honestly believe that a car is unreliable, or that others are more reliable, then buy those other cars. Don't buy one you believe to be unreliable and then complain about it, or try to convince others that the cars we all enjoy are junk compared to the Japanese competition.

:horse:

[mikekanzler]

Sorry, bud. I can't help it if we're passionate about our cars, or if we're tired of this pointless debate. If you honestly believe that a car is unreliable, or that others are more reliable, then buy those other cars. Don't buy one you believe to be unreliable and then complain about it, or try to convince others that the cars we all enjoy are junk compared to the Japanese competition.

x2

[jonnythan]

Sorry, bud. I can't help it if we're passionate about our cars, or if we're tired of this pointless debate. If you honestly believe that a car is unreliable, or that others are more reliable, then buy those other cars. Don't buy one you believe to be unreliable and then complain about it, or try to convince others that the cars we all enjoy are junk compared to the Japanese competition.

:horse:

There's more to a car than its reliability. But I thought this was a discussion about reliability, not "why we love our cars."

Well, if you guys ever want to talk facts and reliability statistics, I'm all ears. If you want to keep talking anecdotes and emotion, then we can do that too. But let's not pretend one is the other.

If anyone wants to show some stats that support the GA being more, less, or just as reliable as other cars, that would IMO be helpful.

[sunrunner_pei]

There's more to a car than its reliability. But I thought this was a discussion about reliability, not "why we love our cars."

Well, if you guys ever want to talk facts and reliability statistics, I'm all ears. If you want to keep talking anecdotes and emotion, then we can do that too. But let's not pretend one is the other.

If anyone wants to show some stats that support the GA being more, less, or just as reliable as other cars, that would IMO be helpful.

This thread wasn`t about reliability comparisons, YOU steered it that way. It was about the Grand Am not being as unreliable as some people seem to think.

True reliability is immeasurable, there are no scientific facts to back up either argument. All we have to go by are anecdotes and personal experiences. You`ve shared yours, it`s time to move on and let others share theirs.

[jonnythan]

True reliability is immeasurable

Interesting, but meaningless, statement.

[sunrunner_pei]

Interesting, but meaningless, statement.

Kind of like your own, eh? :lol:

:feedtrol:

[jonnythan]

Kind of like your own, eh? :lol:

:feedtrol:

No, not like my own.

You're literally saying that "vehicle reliability" is a totally meaningless term. This is absurd.

[sunrunner_pei]

I am not. You're asking for scientific facts to back up an argument, however no such facts exist. Reliability is a relative term, not a scientific one. Therefor there is no way either of us to prove our case. Consumer Reports is nothing more than a collection of anecdotal evidence, not scientific fact. This is a battle that cannot be won, a disagreement with no definitive answer. Just the kind of disruption you seem to thrive on.

[GMFWDFAN]

Wow I didn't realize this had become such a heated debate. :lol:

I was just saying that Grand Ams aren't total crapboxes that people think they are. :)

I take care of my GA and it takes care of me.

[sunrunner_pei]

Wow I didn't realize this had become such a heated debate. :lol:

I was just saying that Grand Ams aren't total crapboxes that people think they are. :)

I take care of my GA and it takes care of me.

Exactly. :)

[Ralph]

I want to point out that you can twist statistics to say anything you want. Like you said it is there job so they arn't going to make the company they are getting paid by look bad will they.

[GregFarz78]

So maybe you got a bad egg get over it dude. You talk to people in the sentra community and they'll tell you the 2002 spec v is the most unreliable POS sentra ever built, guess what though it hasn't really given me a single problem 102,000 miles on the clock. True reliability you can't measure, those JD power studies are averages of a survey, pontiac is in the middle of the pack if I remember right. Show me a 10 year old civic that doesn't need anything replaced.

Parts for imports arent necessarily cheaper either, maybe on newer cars but compare a 10 year old grand am to a 10 year old civic you'd be surprised.

[TheTrader]

I dont really want to contribute to this "heated debate" I just want to say that I am happy to see a 2002 Ecotec GA with that many miles still running....

ok, so maby I will contribute....

reliability is pure opinion in my mind, 100%. there are many people who will repair a car at a fairly frequent interval, but still believe it is reliable compared to other brands, and there are people like us who own cars that may have the reputation of being an un-reliable vehicle, that consider them to be very reliable (like me) Sure, my GA has had the fuel pump, clutch & window clips replaced since I bought it, but I also consider some repairs to be normal, like a clutch... this was a leased vehicle before I owned it so who knows the hell it went through, I also used it to teach someone how to drive stick & I learned to drag race in it... the fuel pump, well, that was just a faulty part, shit happens, and window clips... whoopty-do, a 4 dollar piece of plastic....

point is, you need to accept the fact that most statements of reliability are biased towards the negative side, and that its very opinion based....

hell, you could drive a lada nivia every day, and if you maintain it properly & consistently, it will be reliable too!!

[O1GAGT]

Out of all the cars that I have owned, I have had the grand am the longest.
I enjoy working on my vehicles and doing preventative maintenance, as well as doing things that the vast numbers don't do to their vehicles. The car has served me well and only has just turned over 70K.
I have found the 60*V6 engines to be very reliable, and I have managed 33 MPG on the highway via tuning and other modifications which is much better than most 4 bangers.

To an enthusiast or someone that works on their own vehicles, tackling a LIM gasket might cost $80 and not looked at as a major problem, however to your average person that hasn't a clue might pay a shop $700 for the same job. Of course they will be bitching about reliability....

I have a 99 2.4L GASE in my garage that I bought for a parts car.
From my experiences the 2.4L is a piece of crap that fails between 70 and 120K miles, yet I have seen some with extremely high mileage (they still sound like crap though). Personal opinion, but I tell friends to stay away from the 2.4L.

Would I consider the grand am the most reliable car on the road....probably not but I am going on 3 years with no problems and I will be the first to admit I am not easy on my cars.

Basically what it comes down to is the fact that you enjoy your vehicle and maintain it properly.
GM has come along way with it's latest engine from a reliability stand point.

[2K SE]

"From my experiences the 2.4L is a piece of crap that fails between 70 and 120K miles, yet I have seen some with extremely high mileage (they still sound like crap though). Personal opinion, but I tell friends to stay away from the 2.4L"

Making friends and influencing others, huh?. I got news for ya, 138000 miles on the TC. I really hope to run into you at the drag strip sometime. Not only is my TC a reliable DD I am told it looks good from the back, cause that's the part you would see in the 1/4. Don't hate on the 4 banger.

[ManktheTank19]

Here is my personal opinion - I was new to GA field and really didn't like the car when I first bought it because it didn't have the bells and whistles I wanted. Over the years, I have babied the car with regular maintenance and weekly car washing and waxing - I made it look really good before the modifications. I know my car is a 1995 with 80k miles, which is low. I never had any major problems with the car mechanically. I feel in love with my car and that is when I started to modify it to my taste/style. I might be crazy making it custom and different looking, but in the end it is a car I cherish. Yes I might get looks from people driving sport cars or faster cars, but that wasn't the route I wanted to be in at that time to own a high performance car. I believe the reliability relies on the individual. Every car has it's problems and faults, it is the owner fault when the problem and issue goes on for a long time that makes a car unable to drive. For example, owners know when there suspension is going and over time when one part goes unfix, more problems occur which results in a suspension overhaul. In the end, my Grand AM has proven reliability and I have seen many Grand AM's on this site prove reliability and I have never really seen a member complain because I believe they take care of their car like a baby and make sure general maintenance is performed. Hence, why many individuals are continuing to join this form on a daily basis to be part of a large community.

[speedemon77]

i have to say i gotta side with the majority here i have an 02 gagt thats only got 60,000 miles on it but i've only had to drop $30.00 bucks into it since buying it new in octtober of 2001 (other than regular maitenance) and i drive it every day, but still i just can't ever bring myself to buy an imported vehicle, in my oppinion you are just making another country richer and before you know it there goes are freedom!!! BUY AMERICAN

[Vampyrate]

my car just passed 89k lol i feel bad for all those high mileage cars.

speaking of which, i think im gonna sell the car and get a 4door econobox on an i4 powerplant

[buff hamster]

i have to say i gotta side with the majority here i have an 02 gagt thats only got 60,000 miles on it...

Me too! :P

As I've said elsewhere on this forum, I really wasn't looking for a GA, Pontiac, or any other GM product, but,...it found me! Strange, I know, but reliability aside, I really love the car and want to keep it running and looking good for a long time.

What worries me though, is the small failures one might encounter with the GA. Things that regular maintenance will not prevent from happening. Even though some may think that a 25-30$ price for a part is cheap, for others whose budget is a little tighter, it can be a little aggravating. :(

And modifications to really trick the GA out and make it unique? :eek:

( I guess a second job is worth it if you really love the car.)

Thank the Gods for this site though! Seems my GAGT had one of those aggravating little problems; the HVAC blower stopped working on low speed, but continues to work at 4 and 5. The solution was found on this site; a bad resistor for the blower motor. A PIA to replace, but knowing what the problem is= priceless. :)

Thank you sunrunner_pei for this site, and the members who contribute their knowledge, again, thank you! :bow2:

(btw: as suggested on this site, I did get the drilled and slotted rotors for the front wheels...currently waiting for delivery...)

:thanks: