GA Quarter Mile Questions

[Teamdiracing]

Hey guys I have a question for everyone. I was wondering if I stripped out my rear seat, my jack, and any excess weight could i get my time down from 16.071 to under 16? :???: Also any other suggestions that i can temporarily do to make my car go faster on race day? please help

[VanishingImage]

passenger seat...rear seat,carpet in trunk,spare tire,jack,and anything else your lugging around in the car...Other then that and having some other mods that you can do b4 race day.

[GhettoSuperStar]

What's the point? Unless you're a serious drag racer, it's senseless to rip apart a nice car just to go from 16+'s to 15.9's. That certainly wouldn't be enough motivation for me to rip my $hit apart.

[VanishingImage]

who said anything about ripping apart a car.....everything i said is easily put back together,the seats the carpet in the trunk....plus he said he wanted to know what to take out to get him better time and he said himself the jack and the rear seat...Nothing wrong with trying to get better times,id be all for it as long as im not stripping everything out to where i couldn't put it back together.If someone wants to do something that really isn't stupid then i let them do it if it makes them happy. No hard feelings though just saying that if he wanted to then he should be able to.

[GhettoSuperStar]

But the car is brand new. A 2003. I would never encourage anyone to do that. Is 1 or 2 tenths even worth it? Come on now.

[mitro]

Originally posted by GhettoSuperStar
But the car is brand new. A 2003. I would never encourage anyone to do that. Is 1 or 2 tenths even worth it? Come on now.

An intake would only give him 1 or 2 tenths and could cost $200, but for free, the front passenger seat and spare tire could be out in 10 minutes.

And don't give me the "Well if you are running on the street you won't have the seat and spare out"

Wanna bet? I've done it before when heading out for a night of hunting. (And with FAST cars, no offense everyone :P) Whatever anybody wants to do to shave off so much as a thousanth of a second I'm all for. :bigok:

BTW... to me the rear seat isn't worth it... its only about 5 lbs total.

[Teamdiracing]

Yes it is a 2003, and I will definately try taking everything out except the new carpet the car is an 03. and to answer your question about why I would do that is because I just broke the engine in, and soon I am going to be doing a turbo kit so this is kinda my first goal of many with my new GA.

[Night Wolf]

Originally posted by GhettoSuperStar
But the car is brand new. A 2003. I would never encourage anyone to do that. Is 1 or 2 tenths even worth it? Come on now.

Hmmm, if it was my car, and the backseat and passenger seat came out, which would probally be like 400lbs. together, that could take some time off :D

Either way, if your at the track for a whole day, and have nothing better to do, then go for it, but if it was just a 1-time run or something, I would say it's not worth it.

[Teamdiracing]

Thanks for the idea about the front seat mitro. I will definately try that. Do you know how much it roughly weighs?

[LoneRangers15]

I read in Hot Rod Magazine that a good is estimate is .1 of a second for every 100 pounds you take off.

[Teamdiracing]

Its for a entire day at the raceway. Its street legal drags, but evn though I only run 16's I still have a class, and everyone knows its all about winning even if its just the class.

[Teamdiracing]

anybody out there know what the front seat actually weighs?

[GhettoSuperStar]

Have fun guys.

[Teamdiracing]

Originally posted by GhettoSuperStar
Have fun guys.

I guess :???:

[Jordon'sGrandAm]

I agree with GhettoSuperStar because it's senceless to rip a new car apart. and to me i'd rather rip the old car up and take stuff out. that way nothing is hurt

[VanishingImage]

don't wanna start any arguments but just to take things out isn't tearing or hurting the car in any way,taking out a seat isn't tearing or ripping it out,the carpet i mean by the trunk carpet which is just laid in there,its not glued....So after hes done racing he can put it all back together and nothing torn or ripped.Its just a matter of unbolting and taking out the carpet in the trunk which you can just lay back down inside when your done,ask Jay(JayHawk) hes got the trunk carpet taken out,he could easily put that back in.But im not into taken all the stuff out to shave off time,im into racing on the track when i can and having a blast on sport compact nights when the civics and imports come out to play.

[Night Wolf]

how much weight would the carpet in the trunk really take out?

[GhettoSuperStar]

Originally posted by Jordon'sGrandAm
I agree with GhettoSuperStar because it's senceless to rip a new car apart. and to me i'd rather rip the old car up and take stuff out. that way nothing is hurt
Right. I mean, a '99 or maybe even a 2000 I might be able to understand. But an '03. It's your car though.

How much can the carpet weigh? Aside from the fact that it's a FWD car and any weight reduction should be done from the front like wheel wells, fluid resevoirs, battery, AC compressor, etc etc.

[VanishingImage]

I don't know,ive never taken it out and don't even know the esitmate,ask Jay,hes the one that i know of that has actually taken it out and from what i understand it will help with conjunction with the other things......Its not that important to me,was just giving the guy some ideas on what to take out,he could easily put it all back in later.

[jayhawk]

Originally posted by Teamdiracing
anybody out there know what the front seat actually weighs?

I know that Jason Lesbirel took his front seat out of 1998, that was about 60 pounds, he said. They are pretty heavy!

[GhettoSuperStar]

Not even 60 lbs for a seat. I have both of my seats out and they don't weigh even 40 lbs together.

[1995grandam]

How much can the carpet weigh? Aside from the fact that it's a FWD car and any weight reduction should be done from the front like wheel wells, fluid resevoirs, battery, AC compressor, etc etc.

are you kidding me?! you need more weight on your front tires, so you get better traction...

[GhettoSuperStar]

You're right. What was I thinkin'.:eek:

[Ben6485]

How is your car running 16s??? My 2001 GaGt was running mid to high 15s when it was stock!!!

[Teamdiracing]

Originally posted by jayhawk
I know that Jason Lesbirel took his front seat out of 1998, that was about 60 pounds, he said. They are pretty heavy!
What can I take out from under the hood that is easily returned after race day.

[Teamdiracing]

Originally posted by Ben6485
How is your car running 16s??? My 2001 GaGt was running mid to high 15s when it was stock!!!
I had a 00 GA with exhaust, and an intake, and I was running 16.167 and with my 03 I run 16.071 no real explanation maybe its elevation.

[1995grandam]

i still dont get why people take stuff out of there car just to reduce some weight. especially if they have no real mods.

[Old Guy]

Originally posted by Teamdiracing
I had a 00 GA with exhaust, and an intake, and I was running 16.167 and with my 03 I run 16.071 no real explanation maybe its elevation.

Could even be a slow track if you're only going to one.....tracks all vary, some are faster than others.

[CHollman82]

Gas weighs a lot, run with a quarter tank

[Teamdiracing]

Originally posted by CHollman82
Gas weighs a lot, run with a quarter tank thanks I will try that.

[GhettoSuperStar]

Originally posted by CHollman82
Gas weighs a lot, run with a quarter tank
Excellent point C.

[95grandamgt3100]

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Originally posted by Ben6485
How is your car running 16s??? My 2001 GaGt was running mid to high 15s when it was stock!!!
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I know, i was at the track the other night and i saw a completely stock 01 GA running high 15's. His best run of the night was 15.7.

[Old Guy]

Originally posted by 95grandamgt3100

I know, i was at the track the other night and i saw a completely stock 01 GA running high 15's. His best run of the night was 15.7.

ETs are actually irrelevant when you're talking about cars from all over the country with different elevations, temperatures and humidity. Just in this area alone I've seen bone stock Aleros run 15.8s and 15.9s one nite at a track and then a few nites later see GAGTs running low 16s at a different track. You should really only compare your times from any given night. Just last night alone I ran .4 second difference between my first and last run. This was all due to the fact that the air temp dropped, my car got more time to cool off between runs and I adjusted my launch for the track conditions.

The only real way to tell if one car is faster than another when your talking about .5 seconds one way or the other is to line them and go at it, and even then it's up to the driver. I've seen bad drivers turn terrible times in a good car.

You want better times, learn when to launch. Don't just say, launch at 2000 RPMs, that could change depending on the track and the weather. Learn how to launch. Sometimes you have to feather in a little if the track is slick. Even if the track is sticky just going to WOT can get bad results.

The cheapest mod you can do to your car is learning to drive it!

[Toutsuu]

lol, i like that last quote

[Teamdiracing]

Awsome The best mod you can do is learn to drive your car. That's Solid thanks guys

[Jason Lesbirel]

Jayhawk stated that I took the front seat out and it weighed 60lbs. - that's not accurate. I had the front seat, and both parts of the rear seat out, as well as all the carpet from the trunk and the spare tire, and I esimated that amount to be in the range of 60-70lbs.

[Toutsuu]

Why don't you actually weigh the car. I got my weight down to 2900lbs without me in it by removing the rear seat along with the child seat things (they are heavy) and everything in the trunk including the carpet. Only thing is I don't remember what it was before.

[Greed4Speed]

My advise to get into the 15s is to learn how your car launches best and to give it some more milage for break in. Mine ran low 16's after over 30k miles it loosened up and ran a 15.83. That was in full street trim w/full tank of gas. Also, ditch the goodyear RSA tires for something else. RSAs spin easily as it is.

[graden]

Originally posted by Teamdiracing
anybody out there know what the front seat actually weighs?
sorry bud, you cant race the 1/4 mile on a bucket;)

[matts]

why don't you just put enough ponies in your car that you don't have to worry about weight? i have friends that whenever they get something new in their car they do something to the engine to make up for it. of course that's not practical to some people because they don't have good paying jobs or parents that will do this, but start saving. you'll get there quicker than you think. you might even end up with a quick car that has all kinds of neat toys you don't have to take out