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ironray75
06-19-2003, 07:26 AM
I went to the track last night to get some times for my baby, that is almost bone stock..Well I was wondering if anyone knew what the times should be for the 2.3 Stock.

LargeFish
06-19-2003, 10:47 AM
If you have a stick, should be about 16.0 for a LO AFAIK. Not sure what is normal for an AUTO. - Edit, OK I see you have a 5 spd. What were your 60' times like? Traction? Were you spinning? How did you launch? How many runs?

ironray75
06-19-2003, 10:57 AM
I don't think it would be around 16s..I have my times posted up on the N-body page..But I got some good traction on my first launch, but after that all I was doing was spinning.. But some of the other 3.4GAs were running in the mid 16s and he has the 3.4.

I also had my spare in and my subs..I was ready for the track this time. Thanks for the input.

LargeFish
06-19-2003, 11:23 AM
OK, not familiar with the track either, but sounds like you both should be running about a second lower AFAIK.

DominionTuner
06-19-2003, 11:24 AM
The Twin Cam can squeeze about a 16 flat with a 5 speed. The 95 LO was 16.5 at tops. Fastest I clocked mine stock was 16.8 in 99% humidity and 100 degrees outside. Yes humidity and outside temp will effect your run. I have not run the car modified though.

ironray75
06-19-2003, 11:31 AM
Well I think that track wasn't that good..But who knows..

DominionTuner
06-19-2003, 11:43 AM
Well the track has to be properly prepped too for a good ET. Mine wasn't preped properly when I ran the 16.8 still the best run i pulled stock, if your hitting 17's I would say it's your driving skill not just the track. I broke 17's on the first 2 runs and then 16's after that. then consecutive 16.8's the key is consistancy. On a well prepped tracked, I may have broken 16.5 but who knows.

ironray75
06-19-2003, 11:43 AM
I wonder how much of a difference those speakers are making.....

ironray75
06-19-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by DominionTuner
Well the track has to be properly prepped too for a good ET. Mine wasn't preped properly when I ran the 16.8 still the best run i pulled stock, if your hitting 17's I would say it's your driving skill not just the track. I broke 17's on the first 2 runs and then 16's after that. then consecutive 16.8's the key is consistancy. On a well prepped tracked, I may have broken 16.5 but who knows.
Well I am still trying to get my thing back..I haven't been to a track since my accident with my stang there..So I am a little intimidated..Give me a few more times and I will get there..lol..

Old Guy
06-19-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by DominionTuner
Well the track has to be properly prepped too for a good ET. Mine wasn't preped properly when I ran the 16.8 still the best run i pulled stock, if your hitting 17's I would say it's your driving skill not just the track. I broke 17's on the first 2 runs and then 16's after that. then consecutive 16.8's the key is consistancy. On a well prepped tracked, I may have broken 16.5 but who knows.

Last night it had absolutely nothing to do with driving skill.

Quaker City is known to be about .3 to .5 seconds slower than Norwalk and Dragway 42. Ryan's 60' was 2.5 and the rest of us with 3.4's weren't much faster. We all lost it at about the 1/8th mile......the track dips down and then back up. I was a good .4 seconds off my stock times from last year at Norwalk and another guy was .6 off his personal best from last year before he did a ton of mods. GAs that consistantly run in the 14s were turning in the mid 15s and I was in the low 16s all night. My best was right before we left and it was a 16.0 flat. (I was actually swapping parts out all night so I didn't expect much anyway)

As I was telling Ryan last night, few guys have as many track miles as I do (I have well over 2000 miles on the strip) and it varies from day to day and track to track. I never broke into the 10's at Quaker City but ran consistant high 10's at Norwalk. With this GA I figure to be somewhere around 15.2 or so on a good day at a good track. Next year at this time I hope to see high 14's.

ironray75
06-19-2003, 01:37 PM
:agree:

DominionTuner
06-19-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by The Old Guy
We all lost it at about the 1/8th mile......the track dips down and then back up.


No offense, but why bother wasting your time on a track you know is unreliable? That's like racing a broken car.

Old Guy
06-19-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by DominionTuner
No offense, but why bother wasting your time on a track you know is unreliable? That's like racing a broken car.

No offense taken :). Racing isn't always about getting your best ET. There are sanctioned tracks all over the country and all of them have to meet certain criteria to get that sanction.
But if you watch drag racing or do it alot you'll see that they all vary. You'll hear guys talk about fast tracks and slow tracks. You'll hear announcers talking about good and bad track conditions. When you race at a drag strip everyone is on equal ground. Most racing today is bracket racing so it's all about consistancy. The guys who frequent a specific track have an edge over guys that have never been there, but if you have experience, it equals out after a couple of runs. Last night I couldn't get a hook for the first couple of runs until I knew how the track reacted....and this not only varies from track to track, but also weather conditions. It even changes during the course of the evening as temperatures and humidity either rise or drop.

I usually will only go to a IHRA or NHRA sanctioned track....but even those, as with the one we went to last night, will not all be the same.

I laugh to myself everytime I see someone post thier ET and someone with a lower ET says...."my car is faster than yours." ETs vary so much due to elevation, temp, humidity, and track conditions that the only way to really know is to run head to head at the same time. Tell a guy in Denver that ran a 16.0 that your car that ran a 15.6 in Ohio is faster and see the response you get!!!

Drag racing (on the strip) is all about having fun.....no matter where you are or how fast you go.

ironray75
06-20-2003, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by The Old Guy
No offense taken :). Racing isn't always about getting your best ET. There are sanctioned tracks all over the country and all of them have to met certain criteria to get that sanction.
But if you watch drag racing or do it alot you'll see that they all vary. You'll hear guys talk about fast tracks and slow tracks. You'll hear announcers talking about good and bad track conditions. When you race at a drag strip everyone is on equal ground. Most racing today is bracket racing so it's all about consistancy. The guys who frequent a specific track have an edge over guys that have never been there, but if you have experience, it equals out after a couple of runs. Last night I couldn't get a hook for the first couple of runs until I knew how the track reacted....and this not only varies from track to track, but also weather conditions. It even changes during the course of the evening as temperatures and humidity either rise or drop.

I usually will only go to a IHRA or NHRA sanctioned track....but even those, as with the one we went to last night, will not all be the same.

I laugh to myself everytime I see someone post thier ET and someone with a lower ET says...."my car is faster than yours." ETs vary so much due to elevation, temp, humidity, and track conditions that the only way to really know is to run head to head at the same time. Tell a guy in Denver that ran a 16.0 that your car that ran a 15.6 in Ohio is faster and see the response you get!!!

Drag racing (on the strip) is all about having fun.....no matter where you are or how fast you go.

:agree: :agree: You have a way of putting it there Tom.