Brake Rotors and pads

[goteken]

I have a 99 GA SE need 2 change the brakes they sux. U guys know of any good rotors and brake pad combo's?

If so where can I get them.

[tido_29]

i have heard good things about reybestos quite stop. and you can get cross drilled or slotted rotors. they are about 150 for the front set. the cross drilled are a bit cheaper i think..

[matts]

but the bad thing about cross drilled is the tendancy to crack around the holes......or so i'm told. when i wanted to order rotors for my truck a company rep told me that he didn't recommend them if i do daily driving because the cross drilled rotors would get cracks around the holes. i went with slotted and love them. but i've seen ads where they claim that their cross drilled rotors will not crack, but i don't know. do what you want, it's your car and your money

[tido_29]

yeah i have heard the same thing about cracking. but i am not sure if these will. but i think you should go w/ slotted. but they are like 400 for all 4.

[goteken]

how about powerslots and performance friction brake pads as a setup. Does any1 know if this setup creates alot of dust or the same amount as oem brakes.

[Greed4Speed]

Just get Napa or some other parts store rotor. They're better than stock. Paint them while they're new. Then get carbon metallic pads from the same place. Powerslots only really come into play with autocross etc.. Where you use your brakes hard for an extended period.

If they're rear breaks, I'd just get cheapo pads. They don't do much back there anyway.

[sublime922]

i was thinking about getting powerslot rotors for my car as well..and also getting the ebc greenstuff brake pads....ive heard that they are awsome.

[LordNor]

I've heard many people say good things about the powerslot/raybestos Quiet stop combo. They've all loved it. I plan to go with that combo to get rid of my crap factory ones and to reduce brake dust.

[BlackThorn]

Originally posted by sublime922
i was thinking about getting powerslot rotors for my car as well..and also getting the ebc greenstuff brake pads....ive heard that they are awsome. i just put powerslots and ebc greenstuff pads on my car. they're better than the stock crap but i'm not as impressed as i thought i would be with the pads. i have a lot of problems with breakdust now than did on my old pads and rotors. i'm thinking of replacing the pads with other ones.

[Jason Lesbirel]

Originally posted by matts
but the bad thing about cross drilled is the tendancy to crack around the holes......or so i'm told. when i wanted to order rotors for my truck a company rep told me that he didn't recommend them if i do daily driving because the cross drilled rotors would get cracks around the holes. i went with slotted and love them. but i've seen ads where they claim that their cross drilled rotors will not crack, but i don't know. do what you want, it's your car and your money

How about asking if anybody has them?

I've had a set of cross-drilled and slotted rotors on my GA for over a year (installed in June last year, and have driven over 16,000 miles since) - my car sees track days (forget the 1/4 mile silliness, I'm talkin' road course stuff, Solo I competition), never mind the street driving - and there's been no cracking around the holes.

As long as the holes have been chamfered, there should be no cracking - chamfering the holes takes stress away from the metal immediately surrounding the holes by presenting a less severe "attack angle" to the pads. Simply put, the stress is spread out over more of the immediate area, and this helps greatly reduce the cracking.

And no offense to this rep you referred to, but I saw more stress cracking on the OEM rotors I took off the car last year than on ANY cross-drilled rotor I've seen in service.

BTW, people, you should also be upgrading the brake fluid to DOT4, or a silicone-free DOT5 brake fluid if you're serious about improving brake performance and eliminating brake fade.

[BlackThorn]

Originally posted by Jason Lesbirel
BTW, people, you should also be upgrading the brake fluid to DOT4, or a silicone-free DOT5 brake fluid if you're serious about improving brake performance and eliminating brake fade. how much of a difference is that going to make and will it affect anything in a bad way?

[matts]

i don't take no offense to it. i don't know if the guy was a dumbshit or not. i was just going by what i was told. it might be true, it might not be. i just wasn't willing to put forth money on something that might break that easy, bc i put everything i buy through what i think they should handle. and no offense to you, but i've also heard that changing brake fluids can harm brake components. but again, just going by what i've heard. maybe true, may not be

[BiH]

the only cross-drilled rotors I would ever get is OEM Porsche ones, everything else is waste of money. They will eventually crack cause you drill into the rotors thus taking away its structrual integrity, Porsche rotors are molded that way so there is no weakend rotor. Stock rotors cost around $40 at your local parts store, pads are not that expensive either. For daily driver there is no need for upgrading since most of them dont do a whole lot of improvments other than lightening your wallet.
My 96 has solid rotors, the only upgrade I would suggest for soild rotors is to go with vented rotors if they are avaible or swap in a bigger rotors with 2 or 4 pistons calipers if avaible.

[LoneRangers15]

Originally posted by BlackThorn
how much of a difference is that going to make and will it affect anything in a bad way?
If your fluid has never been changed it will help a lot. As long as you get all of the air out after you change the fluid you shouldn't have any problems.

[Jason Lesbirel]

Originally posted by BlackThorn
how much of a difference is that going to make and will it affect anything in a bad way?

The big difference is in the wet and dry boiling points. Both DOT4 and DOT5 have increased boiling points over the DOT3 fluid that runs through the brake system in GAs. And as long as the fluid used is NOT silicone-based, there are no deliterious effects from the change.

The benefit to having higher boiling points is easy to explain - less brake fade. Hot brake fluid can boil, and once it does, the braking distances start becoming alarmingly high. The higher the boiling point, the higher the fluids resistance to heat-based fade.

And, as I previously stated, I've had cross-drilled rotors on my car for over a year, and there is no stress-cracking around the holes.