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| Handle It! - Suspension, Wheel and Tire Upgrades A new section for the GAOC! If it's about suspension, brake upgrades, wheels or tires, you'll find it in here! |
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GAOC Newbie
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Member Number: 1154
Location: MN
Age: 31
Vehicle Information:
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT
Engine: 3.4 V6
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Wheel and Tire Info
Hey Guys,
Can someone tell me the bolt patterns and offsets that fit a 99 grand am gt? Also what size 17, 18 and 19 rims and tires will fit it? Thanks, Justin |
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GAOC Newbie
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Member Number: 1154
Location: MN
Age: 31
Vehicle Information:
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT
Engine: 3.4 V6
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So no one knows?? LOL
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Member Number: 45
Location: West Virginia
Name: Bryan
Age: 30
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2004 Pontiac Grand Am SC/T
Engine: 3.4 Ram Air V6
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I guess I can play wheel guru
The 99+ is a bolt pattern of 5x115 or 5x114.3 with lugcentrics as far as the off set its usually a 38 although my enkeis are a 40 I have heard you can go to a max of 42.Tires and rims would be like this to keep the speedo right...17- 225/45/17 18- 225/40/18 19- 225/35/19 If you wanna go lil wide with a 235 series speedo may be off a lil bit more.
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GAOC Newbie
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Member Number: 1154
Location: MN
Age: 31
Vehicle Information:
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT
Engine: 3.4 V6
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Thanks so much man! I really appreciate it!
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GAOC Newbie
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Member Number: 1154
Location: MN
Age: 31
Vehicle Information:
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT
Engine: 3.4 V6
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What does the offset mean?? what are the differences between 38-42?
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
Member Number: 30
Location: Scotia NY
Name: John
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2002 Nissan Sentra SER SpecV
Engine: QR25DE
Odometer: 130k & climbing Mi
2001 Cheverolet S10 Xtreme
Engine: 4.3 Vortec V6
Odometer: 98k chassis, 35k motor Mi
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When shopping for wheels you might hear two terms, although messured differently are the same thing.
Offset and backsapcing are terms used to determine where the mounting surface of the wheel is. Offset is messured from the center of the wheel. So 0 offset is center of the wheel. A wheel with a positive offset of 38mm means the mounting surface is 38mm off center towards the face of the wheel. When mounted this will move the wheel inward. A negitive offset will push the wheels out. Photo shows a wheel with positive offset.Backspacing is simular but messured from the backside of the wheel to the mounting surface in inches. The less inches the more the wheel will set out.
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GAOC Newbie
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Member Number: 1154
Location: MN
Age: 31
Vehicle Information:
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT
Engine: 3.4 V6
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cool... so does it make a real big difference between 38 - 42 on looks?
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
Member Number: 30
Location: Scotia NY
Name: John
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2002 Nissan Sentra SER SpecV
Engine: QR25DE
Odometer: 130k & climbing Mi
2001 Cheverolet S10 Xtreme
Engine: 4.3 Vortec V6
Odometer: 98k chassis, 35k motor Mi
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4mms you decide.
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Frequent Poster
Joined: Jan 23, 2003
Member Number: 43
Location: Halifax, N.S., Canada
Age: 38
Vehicle Information:
2001 SOLD OCT. 30, 2009- SE1
Engine: LD9 2.4l 5spd.
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Now the rim itself may clear at 42mm, but put a tire on it, and depending on the size, the sidewall may come in contact with the suspension. The clearance between the tire and strut body is very close in stock form - usually no more than the width of you typical finger, which is about 15mm (about 5/8 inch). Ideally you want to keep that the same, or if change is needed, increase that spacing, which means a smaller offset - 40 is smaller than 42, 38 is smaller than 40, you see where I'm going with that. Besides, using a smaller offset increases the vehicle's track, which is a good thing. |
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
Member Number: 30
Location: Scotia NY
Name: John
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2002 Nissan Sentra SER SpecV
Engine: QR25DE
Odometer: 130k & climbing Mi
2001 Cheverolet S10 Xtreme
Engine: 4.3 Vortec V6
Odometer: 98k chassis, 35k motor Mi
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Jason, would you agree that wheels with larger offsets will put more wear on ball joints?
I know your a suspension guy and I have always felt it has. Just wonder what you think.
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Frequent Poster
Joined: Jan 23, 2003
Member Number: 43
Location: Halifax, N.S., Canada
Age: 38
Vehicle Information:
2001 SOLD OCT. 30, 2009- SE1
Engine: LD9 2.4l 5spd.
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I would agree, but only if the offset change was drastic. Going from 38-40mm to 35mm would cause a negligible increase in wear on the ball joints.
Now, if you were to go to a 20mm offset, you'd be hanging the wheel way out. At that point, it's like putting a weight at the end of a diving board - the more weight you hang out from the pivot point (aka the balljoint), the more load put on it, and wear will naturally come sooner than expected. |
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
Member Number: 30
Location: Scotia NY
Name: John
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2002 Nissan Sentra SER SpecV
Engine: QR25DE
Odometer: 130k & climbing Mi
2001 Cheverolet S10 Xtreme
Engine: 4.3 Vortec V6
Odometer: 98k chassis, 35k motor Mi
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I agree, a few mm won't bother it much. But I always see custom truck with deep dish wheels all the way around and it makes me think how often they replace the ball joints. lol
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So Many Mods, So Little $
Joined: Mar 24, 2003
Member Number: 1512
Location: San Diego
Age: 34
Vehicle Information:
2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT1
Engine: 3400 V6 Ram Air
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So, with all of this in mind, what is the largest tire width I could put on an '02 GAGT if the offset of my rims are +38?
I am weighing different rim options and was looking at getting these with either a 235/40-18 tire or a 245/40-18 tire: http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.m...ct_Code=GN9001 I am hoping to go wider primarily to get more contact patch, but more importantly to protect the rims when parallel parking and stuff! tom |
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Member Number: 45
Location: West Virginia
Name: Bryan
Age: 30
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2004 Pontiac Grand Am SC/T
Engine: 3.4 Ram Air V6
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235 is as big as i would personal go
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Dr.Boost--(\/S-15\/)--
Joined: Jan 27, 2003
Member Number: 361
Location: Alabama
Vehicle Information:
1995 Pontiac Grand Am BLGT
Engine: 3100 V6 on hold trbo
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Well see what is the stock rim width on 95's like 7.5
or 7.0 some thing like that (on tire i mean) The reason i ask is because i want more tread to hit the ground than what i got. So what kind of off set would i need for 8 inch width rims.
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One day i will have a 650hp 1995 Grand Am GT! (The Great Delay) Then the competetion will be really funny. Just to bad im not AWD. Perfect Nirvana-redline 11,500 Last edited by Antalive[DM]; 04-14-2003 at 09:19 AM. |
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KODEBLUE
Joined: Feb 05, 2003
Member Number: 666
Location: Chatham, Ontario
Age: 39
Vehicle Information:
2000 Pontiac Grand Am SE
Engine: 3400
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17" - 220/45/17 - Diameter difference is .06" 18" - 220/40/18 - Diameter difference is .07" 19" - 215/35/19 - Diameter difference is .07" I used 225/60/16 as a stock tire to calculate these figures. |
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So Many Mods, So Little $
Joined: Mar 24, 2003
Member Number: 1512
Location: San Diego
Age: 34
Vehicle Information:
2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT1
Engine: 3400 V6 Ram Air
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Wouldn't you risk scraping the rims of the wheels if the tire wasn't wide enough to cover the rim? That is my main concern... that if I get 18x8s compared to 18x7s, a 225mm wide tire might not protect my rims from the curb if I back up too far while parallel parking. I could be wrong, but that inch seems like it would be a big difference to me. tom |
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Moderator
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Member Number: 45
Location: West Virginia
Name: Bryan
Age: 30
Sex: M
Vehicle Information:
2004 Pontiac Grand Am SC/T
Engine: 3.4 Ram Air V6
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Well he is must be using the stock se size rollbonez.The largest you wanna go is the 235 that is the largest i have seen so far.
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Bolero Alero
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
Member Number: 184
Location: Victoria
Age: 33
Vehicle Information:
2000 Olds Alero GLS
Engine: 3400 V6
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The OEM 16 x 6.5" wheels on the 1999+ cars, do you know what the offset is?
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Whinnin.
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
Member Number: 5
Location: Dubuque, IA USA
Age: 23
Vehicle Information:
1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Engine: L67
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next time you have a truck like that behind you look in your rearview and look at the tires. if they are toe'd out at the bottom their ball joints are shot. another thing that eats balljoints on trucks is driving around with the hubs locked in. |
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